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Origin of Deja Vu Pinpointed
LiveScience ^ | 6/7/07 | Dave Mosher

Posted on 06/09/2007 2:48:14 PM PDT by LibWhacker

The brain cranks out memories near its center, in a looped wishbone of tissue called the hippocampus. But a new study suggests only a small chunk of it, called the dentate gyrus, is responsible for “episodic” memories—information that allows us to tell similar places and situations apart.

The finding helps explain where déjà vu originates in the brain, and why it happens more frequently with increasing age and with brain-disease patients, said MIT neuroscientist Susumu Tonegawa. The study is detailed today in the online version of the journal Science.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


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KEYWORDS: brain; dejau; dejavu; health; mentalhealth; neuroscience; pinpointed
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1 posted on 06/09/2007 2:48:19 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I believe its a French word.


2 posted on 06/09/2007 2:49:36 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Withhold Taxes - Starve a Liberal)
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To: LibWhacker

I thought deja vu was a glitch in the Matrix.


3 posted on 06/09/2007 2:50:04 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: LibWhacker
OH! NO! Not this all over again?
4 posted on 06/09/2007 2:50:34 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: LibWhacker

I know I have read this story before.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 2:50:34 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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To: LibWhacker

Have you seen this post?


6 posted on 06/09/2007 2:52:20 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: LibWhacker

Have you seen this post?


7 posted on 06/09/2007 2:52:46 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: LibWhacker

Have you seen this post?


8 posted on 06/09/2007 2:52:51 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: LibWhacker

Have you seen this post?


9 posted on 06/09/2007 2:52:51 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: LibWhacker

This old crap again, I remember the first time they said this I thought it was obvious.


10 posted on 06/09/2007 2:54:16 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: LibWhacker
Here it is.
11 posted on 06/09/2007 2:54:53 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (These are my principals. If you don't like them, I have others.)
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To: LibWhacker
Nope. It originated with Yogi Berra.

"This is like deja vu all over again"

12 posted on 06/09/2007 2:57:09 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Gosh. That's deja vu all over again!


13 posted on 06/09/2007 2:58:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Dang. You beat me to it! :-)


14 posted on 06/09/2007 2:59:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: LibWhacker

It increases with age for a pretty simple reason. With age comes experience, and more opportunities for “deja vu” experiences to occur. The resemblance between any current situation and one resembling a situation that may have been in in the past is much more likely with a greater storehouse of memories.


15 posted on 06/09/2007 3:00:05 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

“You’ve got to be very careful if you don’t know where you’re going, because you might not get there.”


16 posted on 06/09/2007 3:01:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: All
OK, if you're like me, you're wondering what a "looped wishbone" looks like. Wonder no more.


The Hippocampus .. A looped wishbone of tissue

BTW, the jokes are crackin' me up, guys! :-)

17 posted on 06/09/2007 3:03:01 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: SIDENET
Wee neeed to have a talk, Miiissssterrrr Siiiidennnet.


18 posted on 06/09/2007 3:03:59 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: LibWhacker

I’m getting a strong sense of Vuja De; the strange feeling that I’ve never read this post before.


19 posted on 06/09/2007 3:03:59 PM PDT by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: LibWhacker
I thought Monty Python already discussed this.
20 posted on 06/09/2007 3:04:29 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: LibWhacker

Do you ever get that strange feeling of vuja de? Not déjà vu; vuja de. It's the distinct sense that, somehow, something that just happened has never happened before. Nothing seems familiar. And then suddenly the feeling is gone. Vuja de. George Carlin, Napalm & Silly Putty (2001)


21 posted on 06/09/2007 3:06:59 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: LibWhacker
The Hippocampus .. A looped wishbone of tissue

Maybe then it's when we just hope it had happened before.

But then what is this?

22 posted on 06/09/2007 3:08:05 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: NCLaw441

I noticed that claim, too. Problem is, in my case, I haven’t had a deja vu experience since I was a kid 45-50 years ago. Since I’m pretty sure I’ve been aging normally, it must mean I’ve got a pretty good hippocampus or something!


23 posted on 06/09/2007 3:08:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

I get deja Stew -— the feeling I’ve eaten this before.


24 posted on 06/09/2007 3:09:43 PM PDT by MovieMogul (I hate it when there's a typo in my tagline.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
I believe its a French word.

French?

Git a rope.

25 posted on 06/09/2007 3:10:10 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: MovieMogul

Deja Moo.

The feeling you’ve seen this bulls### before.


26 posted on 06/09/2007 3:14:08 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: MovieMogul

I get a deja loo.......the feeling I have been to the bathroom before


27 posted on 06/09/2007 3:15:49 PM PDT by Kimmers (Where is Hispania ?)
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To: LibWhacker

I wish I had seen this article when I was looking for a screen name....then I would be “dentate gyrus”. I think that has such a classy ring to it. I wonder if they would let me change my name???


28 posted on 06/09/2007 3:16:34 PM PDT by no_lectures_please (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: LibWhacker

I have Gator Vu, that feeling that I’ve seen the Gators win a National Championship before.


29 posted on 06/09/2007 3:17:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: LibWhacker

I’m not a fan of it increasing with age or brain disease. I actually experience it pretty often and I’m only 23. I’m not a fan of what that might say.


30 posted on 06/09/2007 3:22:59 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You remember my guitar? That is where it gently weeps.)
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To: unspun
But then, what is this?

Duhhh ... see the prof on the left?

Leadin' the class?

Hippo Campus.

Sheesh!

31 posted on 06/09/2007 3:24:52 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: LibWhacker

Maybe you forgot that you remembered...


32 posted on 06/09/2007 3:28:58 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: TaxPayer2000

and my comments are the same


33 posted on 06/09/2007 3:40:16 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (I can't believe people still watch tv)
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To: TaxPayer2000

and my comments are the same


34 posted on 06/09/2007 3:40:21 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (I can't believe people still watch tv)
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To: TaxPayer2000

and my comments are the same


35 posted on 06/09/2007 3:40:24 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (I can't believe people still watch tv)
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To: LibWhacker

Maybe you forgot that you remembered...


36 posted on 06/09/2007 3:53:05 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: LibWhacker

This is good stuff.


37 posted on 06/09/2007 3:54:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: LibWhacker

” ... happens more frequently with increasing age.”

Deja vu was a profound phenomena for me, affecting me in “clusters” of episodes — perhaps 5 to 10 episodes over the course of a couple of days ... and then nothing for another couple of years. Never seemed to have a trigger or a cause.

I always figured my brain was recording a current event or conversation a millisecond before it reached my consciousness, making it *seem* that it had already happened.

The episodes started around the age of 25 and stopped entirely at about 45.


38 posted on 06/09/2007 3:55:23 PM PDT by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Chrust ... (I am Anti-Hillary))
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To: RightWhale
But I'm not sure this is just exactly the same thing as deja vu:

"As an aging neuroscientist, Tonegawa admitted it’s a typical phenomenon with him. “I do a lot of traveling so I show up in brand new airports, and my brain tells me it’s been here before,” he said. “But the rest of my brain knows better.”"

39 posted on 06/09/2007 3:57:43 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: AngrySpud
The episodes started around the age of 25 and stopped entirely at about 45.

That does seem to be about when some fortunate people's brains undergo improvements. Then, they often start voting conservative.

40 posted on 06/09/2007 3:59:45 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

Read post #38 ... perhaps yours too will decrease with age.


41 posted on 06/09/2007 3:59:57 PM PDT by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Chrust ... (I am Anti-Hillary))
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To: unspun

Possibly not. The hippocampus is involved no doubt. As far as recognizing a place, well, I have had deja vu in places I am very familiar with as well as new places. It lasts a couple seconds and then time goes back to normal. I experience it as knowing what is happening just before it happens. It happens during sports events too. You know just where a pitch will go and just how to hit it and where the ball will go almost as if you are controlling the flight. Sometimes I can be in that mood for ten minutes at a stretch and my teammates think I am an athlete, but it doesn’t last, so Yogi can keep his job. Chevy Chase did a skit on that with golf.


42 posted on 06/09/2007 4:06:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: unspun
LOL.

"My...name...is...SIDE-NET."

43 posted on 06/09/2007 4:06:38 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: unspun

A campus of hippos


44 posted on 06/09/2007 4:08:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: SIDENET

Nope... mini worm-hole from Donnie Darko.


45 posted on 06/09/2007 4:08:34 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: LibWhacker
Already posted.
46 posted on 06/09/2007 4:08:43 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: LibWhacker

“the dentate gyrus, is responsible for “episodic” memories”

Sounds series.

Am I logged in again?


47 posted on 06/09/2007 4:10:24 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
the dentate gyrus

That'd be a good name for a rock band. It's also a good description for Nicorette.

48 posted on 06/09/2007 4:12:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: glock rocks

Actually, it’s a Mideastern phrase that literally means:

“to leave false teeth in an unconscionably stale pita bread sandwich.”


49 posted on 06/09/2007 4:15:31 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: tubebender; NormsRevenge; NYTexan

How in the world did you miss such fun? Hell, deja vu is the only source of recall some of us get anymore.


50 posted on 06/09/2007 6:09:49 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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