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Spanish activist: oust Poland from European Union
Novopress ^ | Friday 8 June 2007

Posted on 06/08/2007 1:21:16 PM PDT by lizol

Spanish activist: oust Poland from European Union

Madrid, Jun. 7, 2007 (CWNews.com) - A Spanish homosexual activist and Socialist parliamentarian, Pedro Zerolo, is demanding that Poland be expelled from the European Union if the nation passes legislation banning homosexual propaganda in public schools.

Arguing that every European Union should afford equal rights to homosexuals, Zerolo said that policy under discussion for Polish schools violates that principle. He concluded his statement by inviting Poland to leave the Union, saying, “There are the doors!”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eu; europeanunion; eussr; falloftheussr; gay; homosexual; homosexualagenda; poland; spain
Zerolo, zero, where is the difference?
1 posted on 06/08/2007 1:21:18 PM PDT by lizol
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2 posted on 06/08/2007 1:23:01 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol
A Spanish homosexual activist and Socialist parliamentarian, Pedro Zerolo, is demanding that Poland be expelled from the European Union if the nation passes legislation banning homosexual propaganda in public schools.

So open-minded. Agree with him and his agenda, or else.

3 posted on 06/08/2007 1:24:16 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: lizol

If the EU continues to be inundated with gay agenda activists, they won’t have to ask Poland to leave.


4 posted on 06/08/2007 1:24:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: lizol

Gotta love Poland . . . I’d count Poland as one of our key and reliable allies . . .


5 posted on 06/08/2007 1:28:18 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: lizol
He concluded his statement by inviting Poland to leave the Union, saying, “There are the doors!”

Poland should respond : "Good, I'ma outta here!"

6 posted on 06/08/2007 1:37:15 PM PDT by Clock King (Bring the noise!)
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To: lizol

Never mind that the Poles are willing to put in anti-missile defenses benefiting Europe. Focus on what’s important: gay rights!

This guy’s about as crazy on his issue as our pols on immigration.


7 posted on 06/08/2007 1:37:41 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: lizol

Poland would probably be doing themselves a favor if they dropped out of the EU.


8 posted on 06/08/2007 1:42:15 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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To: SIDENET
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I have a cunning plan to get Kentucky out of the North American Union.

9 posted on 06/08/2007 1:42:23 PM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: lizol

Such intolerance!

Maricon.


10 posted on 06/08/2007 1:44:25 PM PDT by rbosque ("A nation which kills it's own young has no future." -- John Paul II)
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To: lizol

“A Spanish homosexual activist and Socialist parliamentarian, Pedro Zerolo, is demanding that Poland be expelled from the European Union”

So where is the button to expell me from EU?


11 posted on 06/08/2007 1:44:27 PM PDT by Verdelet (Condemned by European Parliament since 2004!!!)
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To: lizol

“A Spanish homosexual...”

OMG!!!! They have homosexuals in Spain????!


12 posted on 06/08/2007 1:46:49 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: lizol

Can we make Poland a state? The benefits would be wonderful. We’d get more conservatives in the country, and we’d have an endless supply of carpenters, plumbers and cleaning ladies.

Forget Puerto Rico... Let’s draft Poland as the 51st state!


13 posted on 06/08/2007 1:47:23 PM PDT by pjr12345 (Hear, Believe, Repent, be Baptized, and Continue in Obedience to the Gospel)
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To: lizol

I am sooooo tired of the freaks of the world having so much power to force the rest of us to swallow their crap..


14 posted on 06/08/2007 1:47:45 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: lizol

If any nation deserves US Protectorate Status.. It is Poland if they will accept it. Why send money to Germany by keeping troops there when we can invest it in Poland keeping troops there again with there permission of course.

W


15 posted on 06/08/2007 1:56:20 PM PDT by WLR
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To: Verdelet

Hey Spanish homosexual activists....why the homoPolish fears? In case you haven’t noticed the radical Islamists want to oust Spain from the EU.... liberate the New Andalusia from you dhimmi perverts. Hold on to your heads (both) if that happens. Family law or Sharia law? Try taking your activism to Iran, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia and see what happens. Poland is stellar these days.


16 posted on 06/08/2007 1:57:51 PM PDT by tflabo (<p>)
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To: lizol
demanding that Poland be expelled from the European Union if the nation passes legislation banning homosexual propaganda in public schools.

It's true, this is THAT important for fudge packing activists worldwide. Indoctrination of children is crucial to their efforts to seize control of the future.

17 posted on 06/08/2007 2:02:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: pjr12345

forget that...beautiful ladies...have you been there? Polish ladies are small, blue-eyed blondes with advanced degrees. No slouches....!


18 posted on 06/08/2007 2:03:00 PM PDT by RedDogzRule
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To: RedDogzRule

i meant “tall”, not “small”. It’s Friday..I’m brain-dead already.


19 posted on 06/08/2007 2:03:50 PM PDT by RedDogzRule
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To: RedDogzRule

tall or small, doesn’t matter if they’re cute.


20 posted on 06/08/2007 2:04:44 PM PDT by pjr12345 (Hear, Believe, Repent, be Baptized, and Continue in Obedience to the Gospel)
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To: pjr12345
Can we make Poland a state? The benefits would be wonderful. We’d get more conservatives in the country, and we’d have an endless supply of carpenters, plumbers and cleaning ladies.

You know Poland has an intelligentsia too.

22 posted on 06/08/2007 2:12:53 PM PDT by BarbaricGrandeur ("The riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness." -Alcuin of York, to Charlemagne.)
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To: Verdelet
Don’t take the risk by asking Mr Zerolo such a question , as he (being a “homosexual activist”) could show you some ... you know ... button to push ;-)))
23 posted on 06/08/2007 2:15:45 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Brilliant

“Are you Juan?”

“Si, si! Are you Juan, too??”

;^)


24 posted on 06/08/2007 2:23:20 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: lizol

It’s gotta be rough for these weirdos, not being able to figure out how to use extension cords and such. Those complicated male and female connectors can get rather confusing.


25 posted on 06/08/2007 2:29:54 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: lizol

Pedro must be a communist. You know how “tolerant” they are of dissent.


26 posted on 06/08/2007 2:30:14 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: lizol

Best thing for Poland would be to tell the E.U. to go F#$K themselves and bail from POS communist organization.

The poles lived under the boot of communism and they can smell communist B.S. aka the E.U. constitution, coming from a mile away.


27 posted on 06/08/2007 2:30:39 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: lizol

Poland. The 51st State.


28 posted on 06/08/2007 2:32:57 PM PDT by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
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First Spain caved in after train was bombed. Now they’re caving without the bomb. Why don’t we just oust Spain from the planet?


30 posted on 06/08/2007 3:15:19 PM PDT by DPMD (dpmd)
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To: lizol

Geeeeeez.... now I’ll have nightmares...
*turn’s his night table’s light on, and crawls back to his cave a.k.a. bed*

;]


31 posted on 06/08/2007 3:25:45 PM PDT by Verdelet (Condemned by European Parliament since 2004!!!)
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To: pjr12345

The problem might be that citizens of Poland are the third most intelligent nation in EU... not much of a plumber or carpenter I guess....

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/03/germans_are_bra.php

notice that it’s only 1 IQ point between our nation and the top 2... :)


32 posted on 06/08/2007 3:31:18 PM PDT by Verdelet (Condemned by European Parliament since 2004!!!)
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To: Verdelet

Even better! We’d have carpenters and plumbers that would actually know what they were doing.


33 posted on 06/08/2007 3:35:24 PM PDT by pjr12345 (Hear, Believe, Repent, be Baptized, and Continue in Obedience to the Gospel)
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To: lizol
Legally, can Poland be evicted from the EU?
34 posted on 06/08/2007 3:57:50 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: lizol

I think that you Pollocks are only sane people left in Europe.


35 posted on 06/08/2007 4:10:57 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Legally, can Poland be evicted from the EU?

Well, yes and no. I haven't read the exact text of this law, but from what I understand it should have no effect on the accession treaties Poland signed. I.e.: The Spaniard is just issueing hollow threats.

However, should a country conciously commit breach of contract (e.g. should Poland introduce the death penalty, the death penalty being an area that is covered by EU treaties other than the intricacies of each countries education system), it could lose it's voting rights in the EU institutions (while still being bound to the outcomes of such votes), which in effect is a way of showing a country the door.

As far as I know there is no "eviction" mechanism, the final decision would thus lie with the respective country.

But why would Poland leave the EU when it profits so much from access to the common EU market and increased energy security?
36 posted on 06/08/2007 6:33:58 PM PDT by wolf78 (Penn & Teller Libertarian - Equal Opportunity Offender)
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To: WLR
If any nation deserves US Protectorate Status.. It is Poland if they will accept it. Why send money to Germany by keeping troops there when we can invest it in Poland keeping troops there again with there permission of course.

This is a good point. Simply ask the Poles if they are willing to pass you an alternative to Ramstein and then move your troops there.

There might be a big problem. Most European countries (that includes eastern Europe) do not want such a immense American deployment for political reasons. Although there would be some local whining in Germany about the economical loss (which would not be that impressive anymore - the US deployment will be reduced to 25.000 soldiers until 2014 anyway), most German politicians would be quite happy to do without those bases since they are a continuous limit to German sovereignty. Ramstein is somehow the continuation of the occupation after WWII. It is not politically correct to say this, but it is the plain truth. Through those bases Germany was i.e. involved into the war in Iraq although the German gouvernment and practically all German people (there were only a fistful German supporters of the war in Iraq*) were politically against it. If Germany would have closed its airspace in 2003/2004 for American operations in correlation with Iraq the trans-atlantic relationship would have been over. This was the reason why Schroeder and most other Germans were forced to tolerate that German soil was being (mis)used (in the view of the vast German majority) as an "aircraft-carrier" for the Iraq war. Since the cold war is over those bases are not needed for the German security anyway. They are simply a American outpost for operations in the ME and elsewhere in this world. The Poles are well aware of this and I doubt that they want to take over the German role in this game.

* That includes me although I also dismiss the offical justification for this attack. I simply think that the elemination of Saddam Hussein was reason enough.

37 posted on 06/08/2007 7:08:38 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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To: wolf78
As far as I know there is no "eviction" mechanism, the final decision would thus lie with the respective country.

It is indeed interesting what would happen if the Poles would reintroduce the capital punishment i.e.. This would be something the rest of Europe could not tolerate. Since Poles and Polish politicians are extremely proud people, it would probably quite easy for malicious European politicians to provoke them to some blindfolded reactions.

38 posted on 06/08/2007 7:22:03 PM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (In varietate concordia!)
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To: wolf78

Appreciated. As you can see from this thread, most—if not all—of the Polish freepers seem to agree with you. It is primarily the American (or non-Polish) freepers calling for Poland to ditch the EU. Poland joined for a reason: it is in its economic interest to join the EU (plus, in a few years, the older members states will be obligated to let Poles freely move to and work in their countries).


39 posted on 06/09/2007 1:57:59 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Poland joined for a reason: it is in its economic interest to join the EU (plus, in a few years, the older members states will be obligated to let Poles freely move to and work in their countries).

Many already do, like the UK and Ireland. The reason why the German labour market is still closed to Poles is a mutual agreement between Germany and Poland: For a number of years (I think 7 or 10 or so) Poles have no automatic right to work visas in Germany (unlike the French, Italians etc.), in return Germans face heavy restrictions when wanting to buy real estate in Poland.

It's because of the main fears on both sides of the border: Germans were afraid of cheap Polish labor and Poland didn't want German conglomerates buying up farm land.

Of course there are differences of opinion within the EU, there always were divisions: Germanic vs. Romanic countries, North vs. South, the UK vs. the rest, Italy vs. correct accounting, that is to be expected. And there will always be. One example: Soon France and Poland are goin to clash again as Sarkozy is strictly against Turkish EU membership, whereas the Kaczynskis are for it.

The important question is: Does that outweigh the benefits of being part of the world's largest single market (which is also a question of energy security)?

Sometimes Poland will get its way (as was the case with the EU's position towards Russia), sometimes it's the other way round.
40 posted on 06/09/2007 6:06:26 AM PDT by wolf78 (Penn & Teller Libertarian - Equal Opportunity Offender)
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To: wolf78
“The reason why the German labour market is still closed to Poles is a mutual agreement between Germany and Poland: For a number of years (I think 7 or 10 or so) Poles have no automatic right to work visas in Germany (unlike the French, Italians etc.), in return Germans face heavy restrictions when wanting to buy real estate in Poland.”

Really ?

“Sarkozy is strictly against Turkish EU membership, whereas the Kaczynskis are for it.”

As a new member we simply can’t be against.

41 posted on 06/09/2007 8:12:15 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: pjr12345

“Can we make Poland a state? The benefits would be wonderful. We’d get more conservatives in the country, and we’d have an endless supply of carpenters, plumbers and cleaning ladies.”

Just to make sure first: did you mean it to be offensive?


42 posted on 06/09/2007 1:20:29 PM PDT by JoAnka
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To: lizol

“Spanish activist: oust Poland from European Union”

Oh, please do!

For many of us here it’s the first time in our lives when we find ourselves supporting a demand from a gay activist.


43 posted on 06/09/2007 1:23:52 PM PDT by JoAnka
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To: JoAnka

Absolutetly not!

I lived in both Dallas and Chicago. Pound for pound, I’ll take a Polish tradesman over a Mexican one any day. At the very least, my hot and cold water taps will be installed correctly!


44 posted on 06/09/2007 3:00:07 PM PDT by pjr12345 (But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20)
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To: dfwgator

if that was the case every european country would have started huge pro homosexual rights movements after last weekend :)


45 posted on 06/25/2007 5:01:28 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: JoAnka

I laugh and laugh and can’t stop laughing.

US -Polish friendship brought to the point.


46 posted on 06/25/2007 5:03:10 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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