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Kennedy Alliance Costly To GOP Senators (Payback's Gonna Be Something That Rhymes With "Witch"...!)
Washington Times ^ | 07/08/07 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 06/08/2007 2:50:54 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

An immigration alliance with Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts is damaging Arizona Sen. John McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham among conservative Republicans.

The damage to the two Republican senators caused by their support for Mr. Kennedy's immigration bill -- which was blocked by a Senate filibuster last night -- is especially clear in Mr. Graham's home state, scene of an early presidential primary next year.

"I'm very wary of a Republican who is talking to Ted Kennedy," Rick Beltram, Republican Party chairman for Spartanburg County, S.C., told The Washington Times yesterday, after it was reported that Mr. Graham and Mr. McCain had first checked with Mr. Kennedy before deciding to vote with the Massachusetts Democrat on an amendment to the Senate bill.

The Kennedy-McCain alliance was criticized by one of Mr. McCain's Republican presidential rivals, Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo.

"John McCain has always prided himself as a man who marches to the beat of a different drummer," Mr. Tancredo told The Times yesterday. "How depressing to learn that the drummer is Ted Kennedy."

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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; capecodorca; conservativebase; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; rinos; shamnesty; skipperssoldsmobile
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1 posted on 06/08/2007 2:50:58 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The McSayennedy Demopublicans.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 06/08/2007 2:52:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
In South Carolina, Mr. Graham faces re-election next year, but Republican officials there said he is unlikely to face a primary challenger.

Why in the hell not!

They can't find one man to run against linsey graham, or is it they don't want to find someone. If there ever was an example of the system being broken this is it.

3 posted on 06/08/2007 2:57:14 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
is damaging Arizona Sen. John McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham among conservative Republicans.
4 posted on 06/08/2007 3:00:33 AM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
McCain and Graham were already quite damaged before this began. Very hard to find conservatives who have anything nice to say about those two.

Instead, it's the likes of John Kyl, and Presidente Jorge Boosh, who wasn't called that in my house until this bill, who are the real damaged ones.

5 posted on 06/08/2007 3:02:00 AM PDT by Dahoser (Never question Mr. Nibbles!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

When Bush Sr. awarded the 2003 George Bush Award for Excellence in Public Service to the fat murderer from Massachusetts he practically dry-humped him with a gushing display of obsequious love.

But then, the Bush’s always do seem to get a pass for the slavish deference they’re willing to pay to leftists and to leftist ideas.


6 posted on 06/08/2007 3:03:45 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I know I’m going to actively work aganst my Senator Mel Martinez who also is the head of the G.O.P.
I sent him an e-mail stating my disdain for his support of the amnesty deal and he sent me a request for a donation to the national party.
Screw you Mel.


7 posted on 06/08/2007 3:15:32 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
In South Carolina, Mr. Graham faces re-election next year, but Republican officials there said he is unlikely to face a primary challenger.

This is unacceptable! SC's State GOP Convention needs to get rid of Goober and field someone else worthy of the office with strong Conservative credentials.

8 posted on 06/08/2007 3:18:38 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I want to see a bill that does one this first: secure the borders, tighten them down, no one comes in without papers. Where is this bill?


9 posted on 06/08/2007 3:20:07 AM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: Kakaze
...but Republican officials there said he is unlikely to face a primary challenger.

Because these officials are otioseously moderate!

Please, for the love that is all sacred and holy, remove these rinos.
Conservatives get some gonads and start fighting BIG TIME!

10 posted on 06/08/2007 3:24:17 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

>>”John McCain has always prided himself as a man who marches to the beat of a different drummer,” Mr. Tancredo told The Times yesterday. “How depressing to learn that the drummer is Ted Kennedy.”

Doh! That’s gonna leave a mark.


11 posted on 06/08/2007 3:27:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Joe Boucher
...and he sent me a request for a donation to the national party.

Someone suggested sending The GOP Moderate/Rinos Peso's for donations!!

Now, that would be a great thing to do...That's how conservatives should fight back, but we have to do it in strong enough numbers!

12 posted on 06/08/2007 3:29:52 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

It ain’t over folks. Fox is reporting that that the “Repubican negotiators” are pushing to bring it back in a couple of weeks.

We have work to do. We need to keep hammering away at our Senators. This fight has just begun.


13 posted on 06/08/2007 3:37:56 AM PDT by Yankee
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

They’ll be re-elected. Count on it.


14 posted on 06/08/2007 3:40:39 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The article is misleading when it says this "-- which was blocked by a Senate filibuster last night --"!

It was not a filibuster. It was a failed cloture vote.

15 posted on 06/08/2007 3:43:28 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The Senate is too lazy to actually do a filibuster anymore.


16 posted on 06/08/2007 3:47:16 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The amnesty exhibit is the most flagrant abuse of public trust by the legislature in my lifetime.

The Senators displaying even the least bit squishyness on the subject have drawn indelible messy marks of disgrace upon themselves.


17 posted on 06/08/2007 3:56:38 AM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“Amnesty John” is toast.

Fred Thompson is going to sweep into the lead by Labor Day, and he’ll ride the “security first” train to victory next year.

Harry Reid saying it was President Bush’s fault just helped Thompson more than anything.


18 posted on 06/08/2007 4:14:14 AM PDT by detch
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To: Kakaze
Why in the hell not! They can't find one man to run against linsey graham, or is it they don't want to find someone. If there ever was an example of the system being broken this is it.

The reason primaries are rare is because Senate campaigns are extremely expensive and unless the party leaders bless the challenger, the challenger doesn't stand a chance. So then why do the party leaders continue to support Graham (and other RINO incumbants)? Because the relatively few people who give the most money to and/or raise the most money for the state GOP, in general, and Graham, specifically, don't want to see their investments go to waste. They have spent a hugh amount of money bribing their boy -- I mean buying access -- and if they support the challenger and lose, then they run the risk of jeapardizing the relationship with the incumbant that they have brought -- I mean nurtured -- over the years. And financially supporting the challenger means starting from scratch.

19 posted on 06/08/2007 4:14:50 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
An immigration alliance with Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts is damaging Arizona Sen. John McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham among conservative Republicans.

And it should make the Bush family damaged goods for the rest of time.

20 posted on 06/08/2007 4:16:17 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: gotribe
Where is this bill?

They passed it last year, so no need for a new law, it's old history right? It was titled the Secure Fence Act of 2006, had all the provisions of the AMNESTY bill, only more.

Nothing stops anyone from dusting off the forgotten 1986 AMNESTY Act and enforcing those "old laws". See a trend here? The operative word here is not can we enforce the border, it's WILL we enforce the border.

21 posted on 06/08/2007 4:20:14 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Wonder what Lindsay Graham was threatened with when he was one of the 13 Senators who fought to get Clinton impeached? That must have been one hell of a FBI file or whattever for him to turn so completely.


22 posted on 06/08/2007 4:27:32 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
It's with pride that I can say I have two senators serving me: Jeff Sessions & Richard Shelby.

Elections are important.

23 posted on 06/08/2007 4:28:58 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kakaze

You ain’t kidding. I can’t believe the good people of SC can’t scrape up anyone, a bum, to run against Lindsey. Hell, vote for his Democratic challenger then, just to make an example to other RINO’s.


24 posted on 06/08/2007 4:30:04 AM PDT by LoneStarLegend78
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To: freekitty
"Wonder what Lindsay Graham was threatened with when he was one of the 13 Senators who fought to get Clinton impeached? That must have been one hell of a FBI file or whattever for him to turn so completely."

Who were the guys 'hanging-out' with Condit?

25 posted on 06/08/2007 4:30:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

“Arizona Sen. John McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham among conservative Republicans.”

Since when did these two become conservative Republicans?


26 posted on 06/08/2007 4:32:30 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: blam

That beats me.

I have two senators working actively to destroy this nation:

Schumer and Clinton.


27 posted on 06/08/2007 4:33:45 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"...McCain and Graham are out of touch with the people of South Carolina."

Not just that. They're out of touch with reality!

And not just them! It's Saxby Chambliss, Johnny Isakson, the rest of these jerks--and especially George Bush! It is high time to question their judgment!

Seeking guidance from Teddy Kennedy--of all people??? If they're willing to risk only their own necks by deferring to that klunk that's their business--but the United States!?!! The American people!?!! The future of our children!?!!

Saxby Chambliss' famous words are going to come back to haunt him.

28 posted on 06/08/2007 4:38:23 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: Kakaze

If state Republican officials can not or will not find a replacement for Lindsey Graham, Saxby Chambliss, and Johnny Isakson, it will be time to abandon the Republican Party. I can’t suggest an alternative right now—certainly not the Anti-American Party of Decadence and Karl Marx (i.e. the Democrat Party)! But if the Republicans are accepting the de facto leadership of the likes of Teddy Kennedy—what’s the difference?


29 posted on 06/08/2007 4:42:45 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: Kakaze

They had bloody wellbetter find somebody other than Graham to run next time or they will lose and lose big time. He needs his arse kicked NOW and not after he loses an election and just drifts away. He needs to be made an example of as does McCain. NOW.


30 posted on 06/08/2007 4:47:41 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"John McCain has always prided himself as a man who marches to the beat of a different drummer," Mr. Tancredo told The Times yesterday. "How depressing to learn that the drummer is Ted Kennedy."

McCain is finished now. He will never be President, except in his dreams.

31 posted on 06/08/2007 4:48:15 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: Yankee; gotribe
My only concern about our (conservatives) opposition to this has been this: there's a lot of "No Amnesty" and not enough "Close the borders"

It's not enough to scream what we don't want, we need to let the bastards in DC know what it is we DO want...fortunately it's easily condensed: CLOSE THE BORDERS NOW

32 posted on 06/08/2007 4:48:21 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: samtheman

I hate to extend such an unpleasant metaphor, but, when you think about it, the Bush’s have always found it easy to slip in and out of bed, figuratively speaking of course, with some very unsavory characters, including Democrat politicians.


33 posted on 06/08/2007 4:48:31 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: Joe Boucher

And he sent you a request for a donation? He just effectively spit in your face, and probably in the faces of many other conservative Republicans. Thank you, Mr. President, for elevating this POS above his station. Anything above bellhop would be above Martinez’s station. He and Gonzales both have that gormless look about them, and evidently the gormlessness is right to the bone in both of them. Thanks again, Mr. President!


34 posted on 06/08/2007 4:51:14 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

It seems to me that the time is right for someone bright, intelligent, and of sound judgment to present himself or herself to the South Carolina Republican Party as a viable alternative to Lindsey. Surely the State Republican hierarchy is aware of the enormous liability he now is to them.


35 posted on 06/08/2007 4:52:48 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Replace Republican with Conservative.


36 posted on 06/08/2007 4:55:10 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

This action of amnesty seems to warrant a strong change from tradition, and a attempt to unseat him.

Not doing so will alienate the party further from the grassroots.


37 posted on 06/08/2007 4:55:39 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: samtheman

The Bush’s do not get a pass from me anymore.


38 posted on 06/08/2007 4:56:05 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Mr. Kennedy's immigration bill -- which was blocked by a Senate filibuster last night

Unless they have changed the meaning, it was not a filibuster. It was assaulted by procedural maneuvering -- attempting to attach a large number of amendments.
39 posted on 06/08/2007 4:59:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
it was reported that Mr. Graham and Mr. McCain had first checked with Mr. Kennedy before deciding to vote with the Massachusetts Democrat on an amendment to the Senate bill.

Apparently other R senators sought out Kennedy for marching orders.

This thread surfaced last evening:

6/07 JOHN & KEN SHOW, LOS ANGELES - these guys are warriors in the fight against the invasion
  Posted by doug from upland
On 06/07/2007 5:43:14 PM CDT · 7 replies · 275+ views


KFI in Los Angeles ^ | 6-7-07 | dfu
JOHN AND KEN ONLINE John and Ken just said that a source on the scene in D.C. told them that before Lindsey Graham and Jon Kyl cast their latest vote, they checked with Ted Kennedy. Listen and comment on the show.

40 posted on 06/08/2007 5:03:33 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Kakaze
In South Carolina, Mr. Graham faces re-election next year, but Republican officials there said he is unlikely to face a primary challenger.

Why in the hell not!


It would be interesting to find out how many of those Senators voting against this monstrosity are up for re-election in 08. Mark Pryor (D-AR) is one.

Maybe the reverberations from the 06 election are stronger than the bot-loyalists wanted to believe.
41 posted on 06/08/2007 5:06:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Awwwwww....

Geraldo is on Fox&Friends, lamenting the failure of amnesty for illegals.

[forgot: Tissue alert!!!!]

lol


42 posted on 06/08/2007 5:08:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

RINO’s & ‘Rats...time to clean house in Congress!

The 2008 Conservative Revolution has started.

Now all we need is a dyed in the wool Conservative to lead the revolution in 2008!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


43 posted on 06/08/2007 5:11:51 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: So Circumstanced
"The amnesty exhibit is the most flagrant abuse of public trust..."

Yes. The amnesty crisis!

And it's not only the Congress.

When George Bush took the oath of office, he swore to uphold the laws of the United States. That means enforcing them! He has failed to do this! He not only failed to enforce the immigration laws--he refused to enforce them!

For this he has earned--and deserves--the scorn and the fury of the American people!

9/11 was never repeated because of his attentive leadership, and his tax cuts stimulated the U.S. economy to unprecedented heights of prosperity. For this he is to be praised.

However he enlarged the federal budget! He increased federal entitlements--notably by his prescription drug plan! He refused to nullify the Supreme Court's absurd Eminent Domain Decision! He refused to support our Border Patrol Agents! Through his negligence he allowed the U.S. Congress to fall to the Democrats in 2006 and placed Congress and the Presidency in jeopardy in 2008! And most notably, he refused to enforce U.S. immigration laws and allowed the present crisis to reach this dangerous level!

For all this he is to be scorned!

If, through his negligence and refusal to enforce immigration laws, if through his refusal to secure the Mexican Border, disaster should strike America--through terrorist infiltration--or by seriously empowering the dangerous Democrat Party--or anything else, the present scorn and fury of the American people will become much, much worse.

44 posted on 06/08/2007 5:12:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: samtheman

IMO Mr. Bush sucking up to Bill Clinton hurt him even more.


45 posted on 06/08/2007 5:13:51 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I'm gonna vote for Fred. John Bolton for VP.)
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To: kellynla

It would be interesting to find out how many of those Senators voting against this monstrosity are up for re-election in 08.

Mark Pryor (D-AR) is one.

Maybe the reverberations from the 06 election are stronger than the bot-loyalists wanted to believe.


46 posted on 06/08/2007 5:28:30 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I would be very surprised if McCain even got re-elected to the Senate from Arizona, much less POTUS, after this immigration debacle. Time to retire gracefully, John. Go home and sit in your rocking chair in the nice Arizona sun.


47 posted on 06/08/2007 5:38:33 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Tarpon

You are right. The Federal Government needs to be sued (class action) to compel them to enforce existing laws. The fence has already been approved/funded and yes, the supposed “teeth” in the 1986 shamnesty was never implemented/enforced. If anyone is an attorney out there, I would absolutely give generously to fund a suit.


48 posted on 06/08/2007 5:39:27 AM PDT by NoAmnesty (I don't have a tagline, but if I did, it would be here!)
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To: NoAmnesty

I think some of these people have gone around the bend drunk with power.


49 posted on 06/08/2007 5:42:34 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
That village idiot Graham did not realized that his buddy TED and REID were using this bill to SET UP girly man Graham in the general election in 2008. Reid plans to run conservatives in SC and GA and other states and this bill will be used as
a hammer to crush them . It may work , I think Graham will lose in 2008 if he runs !
50 posted on 06/08/2007 5:54:02 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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