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Home Depot Fires Men Who Stopped Thieves
WKMG TV NEWS ^ | 6-6-2007

Posted on 06/06/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by Cagey

MIDWEST CITY, Okla. -- A former Home Depot employee said the company fired him and three other workers because they helped police catch several suspected shoplifters in May.

Midwest City Police said the men helped officers catch suspected shoplifters as they tried to run from a store with lawn equipment.

An internal memo from Home Depot outlines that associates cannot accuse, detain, chase or call the police on any customer for shoplifting. However, one of the fired employees said the company is selective in enforcing that policy.

"The loss-prevention guy at our Shields (Boulevard) store turned around and told me all we need to do is tell the shoplifter to have a good day as they leave the store. I said that just doesn't make sense," former employee Bob Stewart said.

Stewart said what really doesn't make sense is a termination letter Home Depot gave him and three other employees after they helped police catch the shoplifters.

"We saw them with the merchandise. We saw them run out of the store. I never kept my eyes off of them," Stewart said. "Then when we asked them for a receipt, and that's when they dropped the merchandise and they kept running. One guy still had a chainsaw while he was running, and that's when the cops tackled him."

The letter said Stewart and the others were fired because they "pursued and assisted in the apprehension of suspected shoplifters."

Stewart said all he did was call police, something he's done before. Less than eight months ago, he said that he received a letter -- a commendation letter -- for helping police catch a thief trying to steal $2,500 worth of wire.

On the top of the letter, written in bold letters was "Great job, Bob."

Home Depot officials said in an e-mail to Oklahoma City TV station KOCO that they have "standard operating procedures in place for situations like this," and that "from time to time, we find inconsistent execution in our stores."

However, they added that they do not discuss personnel matters and will not comment on this specific case.

Midwest City Police Chief Brandon Clabes said he won't comment on the store policy, but said they would probably not have caught the suspects or recovered the property or the stolen car they drove if it had not been for the help of these four employees.

Clabes said he is considering giving the four men letters of appreciation for helping catch the suspects.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: gotolowesinstead; homedepot; robhomedepotfirst; stupidity
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1 posted on 06/06/2007 10:53:38 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

Video at source.

2 posted on 06/06/2007 10:54:17 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: Cagey

We had the same ‘training’ for Denny’s Management: Offer to carry the cash register to the car for them and ask them if they’d like breakfast on the house.


3 posted on 06/06/2007 10:56:02 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: Cagey

They can’t stop shoplifters, or even call police?

I’m off to Home Depot, need about $50k worth of stuff!


4 posted on 06/06/2007 10:56:27 AM PDT by Bob Leibowitz (Response, Free Republic, error, news)
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To: Cagey

Think I’m gonna go “shopping” at Home Depot after work.


5 posted on 06/06/2007 10:56:33 AM PDT by The Blitherer (These are not dark days; these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived. -WSC)
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To: Cagey
"The loss-prevention guy at our Shields (Boulevard) store turned around and told me all we need to do is tell the shoplifter to have a good day as they leave the store. I said that just doesn't make sense," former employee Bob Stewart said.

From a legal point of view, I can understand the company not wanting to be liable if an employee is injured while trying to prevent shoplifting.

What I don't understand is not notifying the police.

6 posted on 06/06/2007 10:57:36 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is all America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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To: Cagey

Swwweeeet. Five finger discounts at Home Depot. I’m headed there now, I need a new Dewalt 12” miter saw. I don’t feel like paying $699 for it so this is good news.


7 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:05 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: Cagey

Nice information to know. Next time I need something for free I’ll go to Home Depot./s


8 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:37 AM PDT by teacherwoes ("It is vain to expect a well-balanced government without a well-balanced society" -Gideon Welles)
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To: Cagey
The loss-prevention guy at our Shields (Boulevard) store turned around and told me all we need to do is tell the shoplifter to have a good day as they leave the store...

Have a nice day, and thank you for shoplifting at Home Depot.

9 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:55 AM PDT by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London, Salt Lake City)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Is this article an approval by Home Depot that paying for merchandise is now optional?


10 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:55 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Cagey

I can understand a policy barring their employees from chasing or detaining suspects to limit the stores liability, but it is beyond absurd that their policy prohibits them from calling the police.


11 posted on 06/06/2007 10:58:56 AM PDT by vikingd00d
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To: The Blitherer

Hey, my wife likes Lowes’ Stores. Do they have the same policy? I’m glad I sold my Home Depot stock!


12 posted on 06/06/2007 10:59:43 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Cagey

Lowe’s has the same policy. I know a few people who work at the local Lowe’s and they say you can come in and take anything you like and they can’t do anything about it. It makes me feel like a sucker for spending as much as I do in there. Maybe I should change my “payment policy”.


13 posted on 06/06/2007 10:59:45 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: Cagey
An internal memo from Home Depot outlines that associates cannot accuse, detain, chase or call the police on any customer for shoplifting.

I wonder if the author of this memo used to be a big-wig at the Border Patrol before he got his Home Depot job?

14 posted on 06/06/2007 10:59:49 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: Cagey

Where can I send a note to Home Depot to tell them that I’m shopping at Lowes from now on, because of their mistreatment of employees?


15 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:04 AM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: Cagey

Sounds just like Southland Corp. 7-Eleven clerks are supposed to hand over money and merchandise and then stand patiently behind the counter while the criminal murders them.


16 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:08 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: Cagey
If I steal something too heavy to carry, are they required to load it into my truck for me? Wait, I don't have a truck. I guess I'll need to take their rental truck then.

If I need the forklift to steal some lumber, can I keep the forklift too?

17 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:21 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: Cagey

Well, the only time I had to chase down a thief was when I was tending bar and some low-life tried to run off with one of my tip jars. The main difference from this story being that was MY MONEY, not the clubs. He also had a few sore spots he was nursing before police showed up. I have no idea how he got them......


18 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:23 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: Cagey
An internal memo from Home Depot outlines that associates cannot accuse, detain, chase or call the police on any customer for shoplifting.

Must've been written by a freaking lawyer. Like the dolts at Walmart, who decided that they won't chase or prosecute anyone who shoplifts more than $25 of merchandise.

19 posted on 06/06/2007 11:00:31 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Hmmm. I wonder if you were to call and tell them you were PLANNING on shoplifting some stuff, if they’d just ship it out to you to save you a trip (gas is expensive, ya know)?


20 posted on 06/06/2007 11:01:08 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: Cagey

In essence, Home Depot would prefer that their customers cover the cost of such losses.

Hmmm, if that’s the case, then maybe I won’t bother shopping there any more...


21 posted on 06/06/2007 11:01:10 AM PDT by Tirian
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To: Inquisitive1

Well, we cant have cops and citizens doing real law enforcement... then we wouldn’t have time to catch all the cell phone users without hands off devices, or God forbid, someone driving by himself in the HOV lane....


22 posted on 06/06/2007 11:01:15 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior force is the ONLY cure)
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To: So Cal Rocket

It is not a world of men anymore.


23 posted on 06/06/2007 11:01:54 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Cagey

I had a guy chase me out of the store one time after looking for additional memory for my laptop. He claimed that I stole it. He was wrong.


24 posted on 06/06/2007 11:02:11 AM PDT by sika
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To: Magnum44

I’m glad you finally “get it”. Whewww.


25 posted on 06/06/2007 11:02:14 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: Cagey

This is why, even if it gets tight again job-wise...I’ll never tolerate the abject stupidity of management, and working retail ever again...

It’s really just not worth it anymore...


26 posted on 06/06/2007 11:02:20 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Cagey

I know it sucks, but I understand Home Depot’s position on this. If they didn’t have this policy, the insurance premiums - already astronomical, would be even higher.

Which is why banks have the same policy, btw.


27 posted on 06/06/2007 11:02:27 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Cagey

Typical of Home Depot they employees could not wish pepole a Merry Christmas but it is OK to tell them to have nice day when they shop lift. What is wrong with those dolts? I can agree with not chasing them but not reporting them to the police is ignorant


28 posted on 06/06/2007 11:02:33 AM PDT by Shots (If you see Known Illegals Immigrant it is your duty to report them)
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To: Cagey
Home Depot is in trouble and has been for a while. I don’t care what their share value might be this second, but bottom line - they are mismanaged. The customer service has gone to crap, the quality of many products is cheap cheap cheap, their staff is largely inexperienced and can’t help you (That is if you can find one to help). Home Depot has attempted to squeeze profit to hard and lost an important aspect in this market, customer service. I’m sure however the morons running the show at this firm will brief each other on success, pat each other on the back and get golden parachutes as they one by one get their heads cut off and replaced by another moron with the same MO. The problems at Home Depot are at the top and this is a good example of why hiring execs from outside the firm can be a good thing. - IMHO as a cash paying customer.
29 posted on 06/06/2007 11:02:52 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Wow this sounds great.


30 posted on 06/06/2007 11:03:34 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Cagey

My wife is a retail manager and this is a common corporate policy. Wrongful search or detention lawsuits potentially cost the company far more than the items shoplifted (especially if theif is a “person of color”). All she is allowed to do is ask ther person if they have any items they “accidentally forgot to pay for”. If they say no, she has to smile and wish them a nice day.

It’s sad the employees suffer for trying to do the right thing, but you can’t blame Home Depot for trying to cover their ass. Thank the trial lawyers and the politicians who refuse to pass loser pays legislation.


31 posted on 06/06/2007 11:04:15 AM PDT by Hugin (Mecca delenda est.)
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To: Cagey

the pussification and disneyfication of america. they will welcome our eventual conquerors with open arms.


32 posted on 06/06/2007 11:04:21 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: Cagey

Yikes!


33 posted on 06/06/2007 11:04:25 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: rednesss

If you get caught later then just say you forgot to pay.


34 posted on 06/06/2007 11:04:43 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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Just correcting my sig line ignore please


35 posted on 06/06/2007 11:04:49 AM PDT by Shots (If you see Known IllegalsImmigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
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To: Cagey

An internal memo from Home Depot outlines that associates cannot accuse, detain, chase or call the police on any customer for shoplifting.

Way kool. I am not paying for anything there again. Just take what I want and walk out.


36 posted on 06/06/2007 11:05:05 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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Robert L. Nardelli has abruptly resigned as chairman and chief executive of Home Depot, pocketing a lavish severance package and leaving shareholders with a stock that has languished even as sales have nearly doubled during his six-year tenure.

In a statement released yesterday, Home Depot's board of directors and Nardelli said they "mutually agreed" to the resignation, which took effect Tuesday. Under the terms of a separation agreement negotiated when he joined the company in 2000, Nardelli, 58, is to receive about $210 million in cash and stock options, including a $20 million severance payment and retirement benefits of $32 million.

That's a whole lot of lumber to sell to cover that.

37 posted on 06/06/2007 11:05:41 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: Cagey
The fact is that the ambulance-chasers have made it cheaper for companies to allow shoplifters to run amuck than for them to risk a civil suit, not to mention criminal charges, for illegal detention.

It is simply illegal for anyone other than an LEO to attempt to detain someone.

If they want to go, you have to let them.

38 posted on 06/06/2007 11:06:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Magnum44

Or enforcing the ‘Free Speech Zones’ at political conventions...


39 posted on 06/06/2007 11:06:27 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: Cagey

Maybe they can go to work at Lowes.


40 posted on 06/06/2007 11:06:30 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find)
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To: Cagey
I think it's an outgrowth of a tactic by leftist lawyer to destroy private property ...sue any one that defends their private property to the point that they will never defend it

Trial lawyer have castrated companies with lawsuits so much that the companies are afraid to defend themselves and instead forbid employee to fight back and fire them if they do

41 posted on 06/06/2007 11:07:37 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Quislingis=traitor, politicians who favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own)
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To: Inquisitive1

What can you shoplift from Dennys, the greasy plates?


42 posted on 06/06/2007 11:07:42 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Fork yes


43 posted on 06/06/2007 11:08:07 AM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: shibumi

ZIG for great justice ping.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 11:08:23 AM PDT by Salamander (And don't forget my Dog; fixed and consequent.......)
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To: Cagey; Mrs.Nooseman; Diana in Wisconsin; bfree; Graybeard58; CSM; metesky; wanderin; sitetest; ...

WalMart ping to absolute utter IDIOCY.............SHEESH.


45 posted on 06/06/2007 11:08:38 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: WOSG
I just did it here: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentView?pn=About_Our_Stores&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 Maybe send them a link to this thread so they can see all the interesting replies ....
46 posted on 06/06/2007 11:08:43 AM PDT by Tirian
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Which is why banks have the same policy, btw.

Wrong. Banks specifically train their branches to call the police, either through call buttons, money clip-triggers, or immediately phoning once the perp is leaving.
47 posted on 06/06/2007 11:08:46 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: Tirian

EXACTLY...........to cover their *ss on liability, the customers or supposed to foot the bill for their losses.........no thanks, the local Menards is just as handy, and they do stop shoplifters............


48 posted on 06/06/2007 11:09:21 AM PDT by newcthem (George Bush.......Making America Safer............FOR MEXICAN CRIMINALS!)
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To: Cagey

I wonder if the policy changes if this story is all over all news sources for 5 days.


49 posted on 06/06/2007 11:09:25 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: Old Professer

Robbery son, robbery.


50 posted on 06/06/2007 11:09:40 AM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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