Posted on 06/04/2007 8:16:11 PM PDT by Valin
After enlisting in the Minnesota Army National Guard, the Kamunens had second thoughts and didn't return to basic training after Christmas.
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CARLTON, MINN. -- Luke Kamunen began to wonder if he'd made a mistake the moment he arrived for basic training. He was still in the airport at Fort Jackson, S.C., with other members of his Minnesota National Guard unit, when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. "I was thinking, is this what it's going to be like the whole time?" Luke said. "I'm not even on the bus yet."
His twin brother, Leif, started having doubts within weeks when a drill sergeant indicated they were probably headed to Iraq. Leif said that possibility had been downplayed by the recruiter who signed him up in Duluth.
On Jan. 2, the twins, age 21, and their brother Leo, 20, went AWOL from the Army. All three failed to return to basic training after Christmas break in northern Minnesota. Five months later, Luke has been released from the military, while Leif and Leo remain absent without leave. They say they plan to turn themselves in soon.
The Kamunen brothers are an example of a growing problem -- Army desertions have risen 35 percent in the past two years, according to Defense Department figures. The number rose from 2,450 in 2004 to 3,301 in 2006.
(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...
They weren’t in the Army. Hell, they never even made it through basic training! I’m sure their mom and dad are so proud.
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I'm sure they would.... they raised them to be whiners.
Strib poster boys.
What is a Christmas break during BASIC?????????????????
Damm glad I retired in 1990...a CHRISTMAS BREAK!!!!!
...when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. “I was thinking, is this what it’s going to be like the whole time?” Luke said. “I’m not even on the bus yet.”
Yes Luke. You will be expected to adhere to the highest standards and you will be accountable for your actions.
If that’s too much for you to handle, flipping burgers is good honest work. But they won’t let you leave your trash sitting around either.
Frankly.....I’m glad they’re gone from the military.....they don’t sound qualified.
I wonder why they signed up in the first place? Probably upset because their mom told them to clean up their rooms.
What a wuss. Can't handle being reprimanded for leaving his cup on his seat, which he shouldn't have done in the first place. He's a rude, spoiled brat who was obviously never disciplined or made to work at home.
I'd yell at my kids for doing something like that even now and they're teenagers, 'cept they wouldn't because they were taught better.
“when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. “I was thinking, is this what it’s going to be like the whole time?”
Gee, Luke, live in my house for a few days. Those are the things your parents are supposed to tell you. You’d probably run away from home if you had to listen to me tell you to get your feet off the coffee table and sit up straight, use your napkin and throw your trash away. Life is tough, buddy boy.
You were maybe expecting something like this?:
These idiots must of thought getting covered in tattoo’s made you an instant tough guy. God forbid somebody tells you to pick up a cup. Frigging pussies.
-— All three failed to return to basic training after Christmas break in northern Minnesota. -—
Christmas break?!
Never let someone out of training until it’s complete. The little morons don’t need a break, they need more PT!

Larry was scolded for littering and couldn't bear the thought that something worse might follow?
Mo enlisted during wartime and didn't think he'd go to war?
And Curly -- we didn't even get to hear why he went AWOL.
These boys' daddy needs a spanking.
SILLY'S SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM:
In the future, no one can enlist in the armed services until he sits through Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket.
"He told me that it's really a rare occurrence that I was going to war," Luke said. And if he did go to Iraq, "he told me I would be sitting in the barracks somewhere fixing a vehicle."
Reminds me of Goldie Hawn in "Pvt. Benjamin"."Where are the condos?" To her credit, she stuck it out. Apparently these clowns thought it was all just a movie about them. Good riddance.
Well the lefties that run this rag would have fined him 10,000 for littering and another 50,000 for using a cup made of tree. He is lucky.
I’ve run into people like this at work, the looks I get when I tell them ( rather forcefully) to get to work is...amazing. There was a guy last year (mid 20’s) and I don’t think anyone had ever yelled at him, or even raised their voice to him.
What did they expect the Boy Scouts?
I’m thinking yes...well maybe the Cub Scouts, or (whats more likely) the Campfire girls
Looks like a couple of dopers and a wannabe skinhead.
Probably best as had they stayed in they might have been discharged with a section 8 and able to draw money for being cowards and miscreants.
They probably were looking for a paycheck.
Somebody once told me a story, wild enough to be true, about a friend who enlisted in the Marines to escape being yelled at and ordered around at home.

"WHICH ONE OF YOU ANIMALS DIRTIED MY &$#@ CAN WITH A PAPER CUP? COME UP HERE AND EAT IT!"
I’m pretty sure the one in the middle is a “Don’t ask don’t tell casualty” although all three probably spent an inordinate time in the shower dropping that slippery GI soap.
I find your comparisons to the Three Stooges despicable. Moe, Larry and Curly were a cut above these imbeciles and far more patriotic. Please see post #27.
With names like Luke, Leif and Leo, they need to stay in Minnesota.
Whatta buncha babies!
But I have tattoos n stuff, so I’m still cool, right?
They may get more than they bargained for as they could be charged with mutiny over this “coincidence” if the JAG wants to press it.
I was surprised to find a few good “letters to the editor” responding to this piece on the startrib’s website dated today
(the first 3 deal with this topic)
http://www.startribune.com/letters/story/1225072.html
bttt
Wow! These punks make AJ Soprano look manly.
This Den Mom is calling foul!
My 7 year old son, a Wolf Cub, knows:
- proper fire-arm safety, and has already been to the range to shoot with his Dad;
- how to detect a tornado and what supplies to grab on his way to the storm closet;
- how to defend himself against strangers AND bullies; knocked the street bully down with one hard punch to the nose;
- what to do in the event of a fire
- what to do in case someone tries to break into the house
- what to do in the event of an injury
- how to defend his little sister and brother; jumped in front of 3 kids picking on my daughter and gave them hell until I was able to reach them a few moments later
- how to clean his own darn room and put away his clothes!
- that soldiers are HEROES deserving respect, and they are to be THANKED for their service when he meets or sees any of them.
At 4'3" tall and 73 lbs., my little man has more guts than all three of these losers put together!
Moreover, my Boy Scout wants to be a SOLDIER!
They’re letters to the editor are ALWAYS guaranteed to get me going. It’s why they don’t let me read the paper (except the Sports and Comics) at work.
Luke prolly put the cup there in hopes of saving his seat after he went to the, er, latrine.
At 4’3” tall and 73 lbs., my little man has more guts than all three of these losers put together!
I’m thinking we should set the bar a bit higher. These 3 look like they came from the shallow end of the gene pool.
Sorry Valin, my reply in #35 was meant to be directed to you.
You should read the replies in the link I included, I think you might be impressed in the redstar’s opinion page this time.

"Be all you can be."
In that case, L is for Loser. That would be Leo, Leif, and Luke (not sure in what order).
Perhaps a little chlorine would help!
Is their middle name Lee? Or Gene?
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I asked the young lady managing the electronics department at Walmart why they are constantly hiring. The answer was pretty simple. People expect a paycheck just for showing up at work. When they find out that they actually have to work, they don't come back.
Under the new policy, the tatoos would have prevented them from being Marines.
Wayne.
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