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Three brothers... all AWOL
Mpls (red) Star Trbune ^ | 6/4/07 | Randy Furst,

Posted on 06/04/2007 8:16:11 PM PDT by Valin

After enlisting in the Minnesota Army National Guard, the Kamunens had second thoughts and didn't return to basic training after Christmas.

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CARLTON, MINN. -- Luke Kamunen began to wonder if he'd made a mistake the moment he arrived for basic training. He was still in the airport at Fort Jackson, S.C., with other members of his Minnesota National Guard unit, when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. "I was thinking, is this what it's going to be like the whole time?" Luke said. "I'm not even on the bus yet."

His twin brother, Leif, started having doubts within weeks when a drill sergeant indicated they were probably headed to Iraq. Leif said that possibility had been downplayed by the recruiter who signed him up in Duluth.

On Jan. 2, the twins, age 21, and their brother Leo, 20, went AWOL from the Army. All three failed to return to basic training after Christmas break in northern Minnesota. Five months later, Luke has been released from the military, while Leif and Leo remain absent without leave. They say they plan to turn themselves in soon.

The Kamunen brothers are an example of a growing problem -- Army desertions have risen 35 percent in the past two years, according to Defense Department figures. The number rose from 2,450 in 2004 to 3,301 in 2006.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Minnesota; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: girliemen; losers; lowlifes; pos; traitorscum
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1 posted on 06/04/2007 8:16:15 PM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

They weren’t in the Army. Hell, they never even made it through basic training! I’m sure their mom and dad are so proud.


2 posted on 06/04/2007 8:19:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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3 posted on 06/04/2007 8:22:16 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: VeniVidiVici
I’m sure their mom and dad are so proud.

I'm sure they would.... they raised them to be whiners.

4 posted on 06/04/2007 8:22:35 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Valin

Strib poster boys.


5 posted on 06/04/2007 8:22:41 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

What is a Christmas break during BASIC?????????????????

Damm glad I retired in 1990...a CHRISTMAS BREAK!!!!!


6 posted on 06/04/2007 8:23:02 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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To: Valin

...when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. “I was thinking, is this what it’s going to be like the whole time?” Luke said. “I’m not even on the bus yet.”


Yes Luke. You will be expected to adhere to the highest standards and you will be accountable for your actions.

If that’s too much for you to handle, flipping burgers is good honest work. But they won’t let you leave your trash sitting around either.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 8:23:14 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Valin

Frankly.....I’m glad they’re gone from the military.....they don’t sound qualified.


8 posted on 06/04/2007 8:25:12 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: Valin

I wonder why they signed up in the first place? Probably upset because their mom told them to clean up their rooms.


9 posted on 06/04/2007 8:25:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Valin
He was still in the airport at Fort Jackson, S.C., with other members of his Minnesota National Guard unit, when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. "I was thinking, is this what it's going to be like the whole time?" Luke said. "I'm not even on the bus yet."

What a wuss. Can't handle being reprimanded for leaving his cup on his seat, which he shouldn't have done in the first place. He's a rude, spoiled brat who was obviously never disciplined or made to work at home.

I'd yell at my kids for doing something like that even now and they're teenagers, 'cept they wouldn't because they were taught better.

10 posted on 06/04/2007 8:29:28 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Valin

“when an officer reprimanded him publicly for leaving a paper cup on his seat in the airport. “I was thinking, is this what it’s going to be like the whole time?”

Gee, Luke, live in my house for a few days. Those are the things your parents are supposed to tell you. You’d probably run away from home if you had to listen to me tell you to get your feet off the coffee table and sit up straight, use your napkin and throw your trash away. Life is tough, buddy boy.


11 posted on 06/04/2007 8:29:45 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: Valin
"I was thinking, is this what it's going to be like the whole time?"

You were maybe expecting something like this?:


12 posted on 06/04/2007 8:33:42 PM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Valin

These idiots must of thought getting covered in tattoo’s made you an instant tough guy. God forbid somebody tells you to pick up a cup. Frigging pussies.


13 posted on 06/04/2007 8:35:51 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Valin

-— All three failed to return to basic training after Christmas break in northern Minnesota. -—

Christmas break?!

Never let someone out of training until it’s complete. The little morons don’t need a break, they need more PT!


14 posted on 06/04/2007 8:38:07 PM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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To: Valin
Like, wow.

Larry was scolded for littering and couldn't bear the thought that something worse might follow?

Mo enlisted during wartime and didn't think he'd go to war?

And Curly -- we didn't even get to hear why he went AWOL.

These boys' daddy needs a spanking.

SILLY'S SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM:

In the future, no one can enlist in the armed services until he sits through Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket.

15 posted on 06/04/2007 8:38:12 PM PDT by Silly (http://www.paulklenk.us)
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To: Valin
Poor little Mommy's boy forgot his depends, wants to go wee, wee.
16 posted on 06/04/2007 8:40:18 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Valin
In March 2006, Luke walked into the National Guard recruiting office in Duluth. The recruiter, Sgt. Chris Beron, told him about a $20,000 signing bonus and, according to Luke, said that deployment was unlikely.

"He told me that it's really a rare occurrence that I was going to war," Luke said. And if he did go to Iraq, "he told me I would be sitting in the barracks somewhere fixing a vehicle."

Reminds me of Goldie Hawn in "Pvt. Benjamin"."Where are the condos?" To her credit, she stuck it out. Apparently these clowns thought it was all just a movie about them. Good riddance.

17 posted on 06/04/2007 8:41:01 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Well the lefties that run this rag would have fined him 10,000 for littering and another 50,000 for using a cup made of tree. He is lucky.


18 posted on 06/04/2007 8:41:24 PM PDT by therut
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To: VeniVidiVici
They have to be wimps. If they had joined the Marines they wouldn’t have lasted the first day.
What did they expect the Boy Scouts?
Apparently they were all brought up as cowards.
19 posted on 06/04/2007 8:43:11 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: metmom

I’ve run into people like this at work, the looks I get when I tell them ( rather forcefully) to get to work is...amazing. There was a guy last year (mid 20’s) and I don’t think anyone had ever yelled at him, or even raised their voice to him.


20 posted on 06/04/2007 8:43:41 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Doc91678

What did they expect the Boy Scouts?

I’m thinking yes...well maybe the Cub Scouts, or (whats more likely) the Campfire girls


21 posted on 06/04/2007 8:47:10 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Silly

Looks like a couple of dopers and a wannabe skinhead.


22 posted on 06/04/2007 8:47:38 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: goodnesswins
Just my exact thoughts.

Probably best as had they stayed in they might have been discharged with a section 8 and able to draw money for being cowards and miscreants.

23 posted on 06/04/2007 8:48:01 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, DUNCAN or THOMPSON 08, ELECTION 2008, MOST IMPORTANT OF MY LIFE TIME)
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To: Cicero

They probably were looking for a paycheck.


24 posted on 06/04/2007 8:51:22 PM PDT by skr (Car bombs and IEDs are the exclamation marks for the latest Democrats' talking points.)
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To: Cicero
I wonder why they signed up in the first place? Probably upset because their mom told them to clean up their rooms.

Somebody once told me a story, wild enough to be true, about a friend who enlisted in the Marines to escape being yelled at and ordered around at home.

25 posted on 06/04/2007 8:53:05 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Doc91678
Marines don't get a "Christmas break" during Boot Camp.

"WHICH ONE OF YOU ANIMALS DIRTIED MY &$#@ CAN WITH A PAPER CUP? COME UP HERE AND EAT IT!"

26 posted on 06/04/2007 9:01:07 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese)
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To: Silly

I’m pretty sure the one in the middle is a “Don’t ask don’t tell casualty” although all three probably spent an inordinate time in the shower dropping that slippery GI soap.


27 posted on 06/04/2007 9:13:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Silly

I find your comparisons to the Three Stooges despicable. Moe, Larry and Curly were a cut above these imbeciles and far more patriotic. Please see post #27.


28 posted on 06/04/2007 9:19:16 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: usmcobra
What’s worse it that in no boot camp of any service do weekends or holidays count as training days meaning these days are added on to the time a recruit needs to graduate.
29 posted on 06/04/2007 9:19:34 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Valin

With names like Luke, Leif and Leo, they need to stay in Minnesota.


30 posted on 06/04/2007 9:21:10 PM PDT by chesty_puller (USMC 70-73 3MAF VN 70-71 US Army 75-79 3d Inf Old Guard)
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To: Valin

Whatta buncha babies!


31 posted on 06/04/2007 9:24:04 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Silly

But I have tattoos n stuff, so I’m still cool, right?


32 posted on 06/04/2007 9:24:11 PM PDT by rockrr (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0)
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To: Valin
Butt monkeys. They didn’t think they’d get sent to a war???? I just bet they joined the Minnesota National Guard because they wanted to be SEALS or fly jets. Maybe they liked the USMC uniforms. You gotta work at being that stupid.
33 posted on 06/04/2007 9:25:24 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Valin
So they all just happened to go AWOL at the same time. To quote The Church Lady, “how convenient.”

They may get more than they bargained for as they could be charged with mutiny over this “coincidence” if the JAG wants to press it.

34 posted on 06/04/2007 9:26:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I was surprised to find a few good “letters to the editor” responding to this piece on the startrib’s website dated today

(the first 3 deal with this topic)

http://www.startribune.com/letters/story/1225072.html


35 posted on 06/04/2007 9:26:58 PM PDT by voteNRA
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To: Valin

bttt


36 posted on 06/04/2007 9:33:32 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Valin

Wow! These punks make AJ Soprano look manly.


37 posted on 06/04/2007 9:35:23 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Doc91678
Now wait a minute, Doc!

This Den Mom is calling foul!

My 7 year old son, a Wolf Cub, knows:
- proper fire-arm safety, and has already been to the range to shoot with his Dad;
- how to detect a tornado and what supplies to grab on his way to the storm closet;
- how to defend himself against strangers AND bullies; knocked the street bully down with one hard punch to the nose;
- what to do in the event of a fire
- what to do in case someone tries to break into the house
- what to do in the event of an injury
- how to defend his little sister and brother; jumped in front of 3 kids picking on my daughter and gave them hell until I was able to reach them a few moments later
- how to clean his own darn room and put away his clothes!
- that soldiers are HEROES deserving respect, and they are to be THANKED for their service when he meets or sees any of them.

At 4'3" tall and 73 lbs., my little man has more guts than all three of these losers put together!

Moreover, my Boy Scout wants to be a SOLDIER!

38 posted on 06/04/2007 9:42:05 PM PDT by WriterInTX (I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE)
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To: voteNRA

They’re letters to the editor are ALWAYS guaranteed to get me going. It’s why they don’t let me read the paper (except the Sports and Comics) at work.


39 posted on 06/04/2007 9:44:41 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

Luke prolly put the cup there in hopes of saving his seat after he went to the, er, latrine.


40 posted on 06/04/2007 9:45:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: WriterInTX

At 4’3” tall and 73 lbs., my little man has more guts than all three of these losers put together!

I’m thinking we should set the bar a bit higher. These 3 look like they came from the shallow end of the gene pool.


41 posted on 06/04/2007 9:47:07 PM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

Sorry Valin, my reply in #35 was meant to be directed to you.

You should read the replies in the link I included, I think you might be impressed in the redstar’s opinion page this time.


42 posted on 06/04/2007 9:52:52 PM PDT by voteNRA
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To: Valin; dighton; aculeus; martin_fierro; Lijahsbubbe

"Be all you can be."

In that case, L is for Loser. That would be Leo, Leif, and Luke (not sure in what order).

43 posted on 06/04/2007 9:56:02 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Valin
Sounds like they enlisted under false pretenses in the first place.
44 posted on 06/04/2007 10:04:03 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Valin

Perhaps a little chlorine would help!


45 posted on 06/04/2007 10:05:34 PM PDT by WriterInTX (I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Is their middle name Lee? Or Gene?


46 posted on 06/04/2007 10:06:20 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (President Bush - The Enabler)
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

ping


47 posted on 06/04/2007 10:25:34 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Valin
I’ve run into people like this at work, the looks I get when I tell them ( rather forcefully) to get to work is...amazing. There was a guy last year (mid 20’s) and I don’t think anyone had ever yelled at him, or even raised their voice to him.

I asked the young lady managing the electronics department at Walmart why they are constantly hiring. The answer was pretty simple. People expect a paycheck just for showing up at work. When they find out that they actually have to work, they don't come back.

48 posted on 06/04/2007 10:36:32 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Doc91678

Under the new policy, the tatoos would have prevented them from being Marines.


49 posted on 06/04/2007 10:44:49 PM PDT by MSF BU
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To: Lijahsbubbe; martin_fierro
Is their middle name Lee? Or Gene?

Wayne.

50 posted on 06/04/2007 10:55:23 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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