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US can’t win in Iraq: ex-general
daily times ^ | 6/3/07 | daily times

Posted on 06/04/2007 4:49:41 AM PDT by Flavius

SAN ANTONIO: The man who led coalition forces in Iraq during the first year of the occupation says the US can forget about winning the war.

“I think if we do the right things politically and economically with the right Iraqi leadership we could still salvage at least a stalemate, if you will — not a stalemate but at least stave off defeat,” retired Army Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez said in an interview.

Sanchez, in his first interview since he retired last year, is the highest-ranking former military leader yet to suggest the Bush administration fell short in Iraq. “I am absolutely convinced that America has a crisis in leadership at this time,” Sanchez said after a recent speech in San Antonio, Texas.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailytimes.com.pk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; ricardosanchez; rop

1 posted on 06/04/2007 4:49:43 AM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Big MSM contract?


2 posted on 06/04/2007 4:55:02 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Flavius

Yes, that’s why he’s an EX-general.


3 posted on 06/04/2007 4:55:38 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: Flavius

And the cause of this would be Tying the hands behind ou r soldiers back with Pc stuff? They are trying to protect the civilians who are brainwashing the next generation of killers.


4 posted on 06/04/2007 4:57:30 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Flavius

But what would he know? Not like he was involved or anything.


5 posted on 06/04/2007 5:00:22 AM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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To: Westbrook

My sentiments exactly.....losers, or people who are not confident in the ability of those they command, need to be relieved and shuffled back to a desk....


6 posted on 06/04/2007 5:03:24 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Nothin' from Nothin' leaves Nothin')
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To: Flavius
We'll need to wait for his book to see how specific he gets and just how much blame he puts on himself:

“We’ve got to do whatever we can to help the next generation of leaders do better than we have done over the past five years, better than what this cohort of political and military leaders have done,” adding that he was “referring to our national political leadership in its entirety” - not just President George W Bush.

Sanchez called the situation in Iraq bleak and blamed it on “the abysmal performance in the early stages and the transition of sovereignty”. He included himself among those who erred in Iraq’s crucial first year after Saddam.


7 posted on 06/04/2007 5:07:37 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Flavius
Ricardo Sanchez glad that this NO LEADER is out of the military.
Wonder how much the al-Qaeda MSM is paying him?
8 posted on 06/04/2007 5:08:16 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Flavius
..is the highest-ranking Clinton approved, affirmative action former military leader yet

Thank you, General Sanchez, for your lucid comments. By the way, what is your opinion on the illegal immigrant bill before Congress? The same as Westley Clark's?

9 posted on 06/04/2007 5:10:10 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844203/posts


10 posted on 06/04/2007 5:11:28 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Flavius

No specifics offered.


11 posted on 06/04/2007 5:14:57 AM PDT by ChessExpert (President Bush might as well say: "Read my lips. It is not an amnesty bill")
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To: Flavius

I suspect Generals with this mentality are the reason we’re not as far along as we should be.


12 posted on 06/04/2007 5:16:20 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: Flavius

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Good riddance


13 posted on 06/04/2007 5:31:38 AM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk

Not sour grapes, he is gunning to be the VP on a Dem ticket. Mark my words.


14 posted on 06/04/2007 5:36:02 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Flavius

Must be the good “EX-General” has a gig on CNN or ABC.


15 posted on 06/04/2007 5:37:46 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Flavius
“I am absolutely convinced that America has a crisis in leadership at this time,” Sanchez said after a recent speech in San Antonio, Texas

Ooh - someone's angling for a spot in the democratic leadership.
16 posted on 06/04/2007 5:56:06 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Put illegals on ICE)
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To: Flavius
So far all I see here is a bunch of Freepers shooting the messenger. Does anyone here want to say that four years after the invasion, the situation we have is the one we planned?

It is very possible for General Sanchez to be as vile as he's painted in these comments -- he probably isn't -- and still be right.

17 posted on 06/04/2007 7:11:28 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Flavius
“I am absolutely convinced that America has a crisis in leadership at this time”
Ricardo Sanchez

YES, jackass, and you were part of the problem!

After Jimmy Carter, Richard Clarke, Madeleine Albright and Bill Clinton, Sanchez is the new loser to dare say how we have to do the right thing after having failed to do it when he was in charge.

Pathetic.

18 posted on 06/04/2007 7:32:20 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

“YES, jackass, and you were part of the problem!”

So are those who refuse to admit there may have been abysmal decision making failures from the get go. Shooting the messenger only shows the short-sighted mentality of many on this thread.


19 posted on 06/04/2007 7:54:32 AM PDT by jbstrick ( I've never been to heaven, but I've been to Oklahoma)
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To: Grut; LZ_Bayonet
Does anyone here want to say that four years after the invasion, the situation we have is the one we planned?

Not me.

But then, I never expected it to be.  Nor do I expect the situation five years from now to be the one we planned.  Life doesn't work that way.

The following quote posted to another Sanchez thread by LZ_Bayonet is well worth repeating here, I think:

"There are some veterans of the Civil War in here. They will remember how, shortly after Sumpter was fired on, a large number of enthusiastic people who were not themselves going into the army began to shout, "On to Richmond," and to say that Richmond should fall in sixty or ninety days. It took four long and weary years; and the same people who in 1861 had shouted, "On to Richmond, the war must be ended at once", in 1862 wished to declare the war a failure and voted to abandon it because it had not been ended at once. Perhaps some of the older gentlemen remember that, don't you? Exactly. The hope of the nation then lay, not with the men who expected the immediate impossible, nor yet with the man who was cowed and did not believe that you could put the war trough, but with the man who recognized the difficulty of the struggle, who, recognized that they had a most stubborn gallant enemy to fight, and who went in and enlisted for a three years' war and saw the war through."

President Theodore Roosevelt - May 31, 1907

Or, as that other great American, Gunny Highway, said:  to overcome adversity we must "improvise, adapt, overcome."  Giving up isn't on the list of things to do.

20 posted on 06/04/2007 7:58:33 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Flavius
This is a superb summary of the reality of the hate America rats in control of congress and their latest general, this POS:


21 posted on 06/04/2007 8:33:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: A Texan

These dumbasses, rats dont vote for military men.


22 posted on 06/04/2007 12:38:02 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Huck

Uh, he hasn’t been involved in THREE years.


23 posted on 10/12/2007 7:25:38 PM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Flavius
“I think if we do the right things politically and economically with the right Iraqi leadership we could still salvage at least a stalemate, if you will — not a stalemate but at least stave off defeat,” retired Army Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez...

I would be very interested in hearing exactly how General Sanchez defined "victory", "stalemate" and "defeat". Something tells me it would have no relationship to reality.

Which suggests to me that the reporter is misrepresenting his statements.

24 posted on 10/12/2007 7:39:00 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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