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40 years later, Beatles revolutionary album still spins out talk
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | June 1, 2007 | Scott Mervis

Posted on 05/31/2007 11:32:45 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It was 40 years ago today.

Ah, you knew the story would start like that. What other way to begin?

June 1, 1967. That's when "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" hit the streets in the United Kingdom, a day later in the United States, and hit the consciousness of the pop world like a dose of something strange in the Kool-Aid.

It was the eighth (British) Beatles album but also the beginning of a new chapter for the band and for a popular culture entering into the Summer of Love and a period of heightened experimentation with music, fashion, sex, drugs, politics and flowers.

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KEYWORDS: albums; beatles; lennon; mccartney; music; rockandroll; sgtpepper
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Not everyone's choice of music, I'm sure but probably is for some.
1 posted on 05/31/2007 11:32:48 PM PDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I always dug Rubber Soul and Revolver a whole lot more .


2 posted on 05/31/2007 11:38:03 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
It was the eighth (British) Beatles album but also

An example of the tremendous popularity of the band that they could sell crap like this.

3 posted on 05/31/2007 11:39:13 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

it was all about lucy in the sky with diamonds....


4 posted on 05/31/2007 11:41:41 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Michael.SF.
The thing I remember most about the Beatles was that they had songs that sounded "different". I mean that the melodies, vocals, instruments and all the other stuff that makes a song a song sounded different.

I can't think of a rap song that I'll be humming along with 40 years from now.... there is no "melody" that sticks with you.

Paperback Writer to Michelle to Yesterday to Help to Twist and Shout to Norwegian Woods.... they all had distinct melodies. I think McCarthy, Lennon and Harrison wrote some great tunes... even Ringo had a couple of good tunes in him.

I'm not a "fan" but I appreciate some of the stuff they put out. As far as "causes"...... well as far as what they thought about politics or war or whatever..... they were good musicians.

5 posted on 05/31/2007 11:54:54 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Oh my heavens, I feel old!!! I was just almost 13 years old when this album came out. “Fixing A Hole” is one of my favorites, and still one of the most plaintive songs I’ve ever heard. I still don’t have this one on CD; must rectify that. I’ll have my kids get it for me for my birthday in July!


6 posted on 05/31/2007 11:57:46 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It is of some small satisfaction to me that, by an accident of my year of birth, in my dotage the last boomer will have finally died and we can all finally stop talking about the Sixties.


7 posted on 06/01/2007 12:02:30 AM PDT by gridlock (Fred Dalton Thompson will be the Next President of the United States)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Great concept album, explored different musical styles,
emotions, world views ,etc...very advanced for
“roll-n-roll”....blew everyone away basically...
stretched all the limits...not my favorite album,
but I made sure I have a CD, cause it’s easily
the most creative (IMHO) “rock” album.


8 posted on 06/01/2007 12:03:01 AM PDT by Getready (Truth and wisdom are more elusive, and valuable, than gold and diamonds)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

It’s not the best Beatles and it’s still better than 90% of the crap that comes out now.


9 posted on 06/01/2007 12:04:21 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Dick Vomer
No doubt the Beatles had some excellent songs. But this album, perhaps their most influential (or memorial?) was, crap, except for a few songs (Lovely Rita, When I’m sixty four, She’s leaving Home come to mind). Other songs are quaint and catchy, but had they been put out by anyone other then the Beatles, they would have never broken the charts.<p.
10 posted on 06/01/2007 12:09:11 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: Dick Vomer

I always was a Beatles fan and remain one.

I agree with you that their strength was in their melodies. They had a light, common touch, and really, they weren’t even rock and roll for the most part, although they could do rock and roll. They weren’t heavy or loud. Even their words weren’t that aggressive.

I think for the most part I’d describe them as hum-alongs, ditties, something like that.


11 posted on 06/01/2007 12:10:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Sgt Pepper is needed in Iraq to pepper spray al qaeda with something other than pepper or Beatle music... because all you need is Love ain’t cutting it with Iraqi freedom. In the end, a day in the life of a hero will never be sung on a Beatles album — even on the white album — because John Lennon only knew revolution as a cool BS Maoist slogan and he never had a real job to save his life...

If Lennon actually saved one life through his songs then fine, but he didn’t.

12 posted on 06/01/2007 12:10:58 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Michael.SF.

Yeah, not all of us are so sophisticated though.


13 posted on 06/01/2007 12:17:02 AM PDT by Sir Clean Plate Club (Gore feels things are getting warmer because he is going to Hell)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

The record that killed rock and roll. The Beatles playing as some other band and a lot of poor imitations from other bands followed.

Rock left and “artistic expression” began. What artwork would you point to in the last 40 years as culturally significant and a high point?


14 posted on 06/01/2007 12:18:22 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Dick Vomer

You CANT hum a rap tune because the hook is always lifted from some other hit song and looped looped looped.

RAP is spoken word. You might as well look for those holdouts reciting Jim Morrison’s POEMS.


15 posted on 06/01/2007 12:19:47 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

John Lennon couldn’t even negotiate peace with his old PAL Paul McCartney. World peace begins on the personal level. He proclomation of “peace if you want it” requires that the ENEMY who don’t believe in concepts like “war crimes” lay down their weapons TOO.


16 posted on 06/01/2007 12:21:32 AM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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To: weegee

The Godfather?


17 posted on 06/01/2007 12:22:44 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You remember my guitar? That is where it gently weeps.)
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To: weegee

???? “killed rock and roll”? nonsense.

“A Day in the Life” and “A Little Help From My Friends” were certainly classics.


18 posted on 06/01/2007 12:23:40 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I can’t ever get into The Beatles. Some of their stuff is alright, but give me The Rolling Stones any day of the week. I think I might have this CD because it is one you have to have to understand the history of rock as much as anything else.


19 posted on 06/01/2007 12:24:22 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You remember my guitar? That is where it gently weeps.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
If Lennon actually saved one life through his songs then fine, but he didn’t.

I would take exception to that, as I can think of one life he may have saved.

Yoko.

He was killed, left her his fortune. Without that, she would have starved to death and saved us all from her unmerciful screaming and lunatic rantings.

20 posted on 06/01/2007 12:25:08 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: weegee
John Lennon couldn’t even negotiate peace with his old PAL Paul McCartney

Lennon-McCartney were the ultimate team, IMHO. Together they achieved greatness, platinum, Grammies, a fortune.

Separately though?

Lennon turned into an 'artist' who's self indulgent actions produced a few memorable songs and a lot of lunacy.

McCartney, w/o Lennon was lost and allowed to wander into a musical realm that was immensely popular with the under 14 crowd. Catchy tunes, nice melodies, meaningless lyrics. All totally forgettable.

21 posted on 06/01/2007 12:37:28 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: Dick Vomer

I loved ther music, but I didn’t care for their life styles and the politics of the group. If it was anyone I had a favor for it was George.


22 posted on 06/01/2007 12:44:47 AM PDT by oyez
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I didn’t like their early stuff. It was all ‘Yeah - Yeah’. Their later stuff was good, but you’ll never hear any of it on a Classic Rock station.


23 posted on 06/01/2007 12:48:04 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

For me- The album stunk but boy was it hyped and fawned over. I prefered The Stones ,Yardbirds, Animals


24 posted on 06/01/2007 12:54:35 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: Mr. Blonde
I can’t ever get into The Beatles. Some of their stuff is alright, but give me The Rolling Stones any day of the week.

I totally agree, I accept the Beatles for what they were but have never really listned to their music passionately, they just don't cut the mustard.

For me it's The Stone Roses everytime the greatest band that never were, Americans probably never heard of them!

25 posted on 06/01/2007 1:17:01 AM PDT by snowman_returns (The Stone Roses - best band the world ever saw, even if only for a year!!)
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To: Dick Vomer
... even Ringo had a couple of good tunes in him.

While I agree with everything else you said.... IMHO, Ringo had ZERO good tunes in him.

He kept a fabulous beat, though.

26 posted on 06/01/2007 1:28:55 AM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

The Rolling Stones are the best live band ever, but they can’t touch The Beatles on record.


27 posted on 06/01/2007 2:19:02 AM PDT by FremontLives (The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
A very good LP, but gimmie Pet Sounds or Smile anyday.
28 posted on 06/01/2007 2:23:34 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: GATOR NAVY

“It’s not the best Beatles and it’s still better than 90% of the crap that comes out now.”

Succinctly and correctly stated.


29 posted on 06/01/2007 2:40:22 AM PDT by Mila
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
Not even close to their best music, but easily one of the greatest album covers of all time (remember those). And the “Paul is Dead” rumor tied to the album cover created quite a cultural frenzy. Unless you lived through that period, it is hard to explain the cultural reverberations of pop music, with them leading the charge.

Nothing will top sitting in a movie theater with my older teenage sisters, packed full of teenage girls watching “A Hard Days Night”. They literally screamed at the top of their lungs throughout the entire movie. Never experienced anything close to it since. Makes all sporting event crowds seem like whipped puppies in comparison. I think a few of them even fainted if I am not mistaken.

30 posted on 06/01/2007 3:12:32 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Sgt Peppers album is crap ? wow


31 posted on 06/01/2007 3:18:06 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: GATOR NAVY

I’d say better then %100 of the total crap thats been out for the last 20 years


32 posted on 06/01/2007 3:18:56 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: dennisw

Funny that all 3 bands you mention would probably say it was a huge influence on them .


33 posted on 06/01/2007 3:20:44 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

I remember reading that The Beatles considered themselves to be in a sort of artistic competition with The Beach Boys, specifically Brian Wilson. The Beatles were so blown away with Pet Sounds in 1966, they conceived of Sgt. Pepper as a means of ‘topping’ Pet Sounds.


34 posted on 06/01/2007 3:29:52 AM PDT by golas1964 (I must be a Fredneck!)
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To: Dick Vomer

>>>>I think McCarthy, Lennon and Harrison wrote some great tunes... even Ringo had a couple of good tunes in him.<<<<

Who’s McCarthy?


35 posted on 06/01/2007 4:46:35 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Wow, man! “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” was a revolutionary document for spaced-out acid heads.

How can anyone fail to be moved to action by this: “Lucy in the sky with diamonds?”

Like, man, where’s the barricades? Let’s bring down “the man.”

Eat your hearts out, John Stark and John Parker.

“Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes! Then fire low!” is minimal. Had the men at Bunker Hill heard “ Lucy in the sky with diamonds” instead, the war could have been over in, like, two weekends...man.


36 posted on 06/01/2007 4:48:05 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Give Hillary a 50¢ coupon for Betty Crocker's devils food mix & tell her to go home and bake a cake)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Hey Alice, lighten up. Its just music.


37 posted on 06/01/2007 4:51:53 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: sushiman
I always dug Rubber Soul and Revolver a whole lot more .

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Yep, the pre-acid stuff at its peak. The Beatles were always into drugs (ever notice Lennon holding the bottle of Coke to his nose and sniffing in 'A Hard Day's Night'?). But once they started tripping the world changed.

38 posted on 06/01/2007 4:52:26 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Getready
cause it’s easily the most creative (IMHO) “rock” album.

I like the Beatles but I find it hard to lable them as a "rock" band especially compared to the rock artists of the day, Doors, ELP, Zeppelin, Hendrix, etc..

Their early stuff was very jingly IMO.
39 posted on 06/01/2007 4:55:07 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: sonic109

No way did Sgt Pepper influence the best work by the Stones, Animals and Yardbirds. The Stones put out “Satanic Majesties Request” which was Pepper influenced. That album was sub par. The Stones then got back on track, putting out a string of 5 great albums ending with Exile. Exile and Sticky Fingers don’t have one darn thing to do with that over rated Sgt Pepper. Which actually sucked big time. For me at least. I could never bear listening to a single song


40 posted on 06/01/2007 4:57:51 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: golas1964

I remember reading that The Beatles considered themselves to be in a sort of artistic competition with The Beach Boys, specifically Brian Wilson. The Beatles were so blown away with Pet Sounds in 1966, they conceived of Sgt. Pepper as a means of ‘topping’ Pet Sounds.

Pepper was Paul’s idea. John was in the midst of his prolonged writer’s block, Paul brought this to him as a vehicle to take the pressure off being “The Beatles”. Most of the album is Paul songs, thus the bass heavy melody lines.


41 posted on 06/01/2007 4:57:57 AM PDT by Gunflint
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To: weegee
What artwork would you point to in the last 40 years as culturally significant and a high point?

Led Zeppelin IV, and Physical Grafitti just off the top of my head.

The 70's turned out some classic tunes IMHO.
42 posted on 06/01/2007 4:59:42 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Mr. Blonde
I can’t ever get into The Beatles. Some of their stuff is alright, but give me The Rolling Stones any day of the week. I think I might have this CD because it is one you have to have to understand the history of rock as much as anything else.

______________________________________________________

You had to be there. That might seem trite but it's true. The Beatles were miles and miles ahead of everyone else, the most cutting edge band ever. But, what was once cutting edge always becomes familiar and eventually boring to those who were not around at the inception.

The Stones never did anything as innovative or risky as Lennon/McCartney. They just made themselves the best rock&roll band ever. That's why they endure.

43 posted on 06/01/2007 5:00:18 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Michael.SF.
Yoko.

I have to think that Yoko was and is historically significant, if only for this reason:

One morning John Lennon wakes up, looks over at Yoko, and has an epiphany. He says to himself "I broke up the most popular band in the world...for this?!? Somebody shoot me!"

And the rest, as they say, is history.

44 posted on 06/01/2007 5:05:01 AM PDT by Oberon (Do not give in to the agenda of the media supremacists!)
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To: sonic109

The Stones were a R&B band and had no interest in the Acid or Progressive rock movement.

The closest they ever swayed in that direction was “Sympathy for the Devil” and maybe “Emotional Rescue”.

Muddy Waters, Bo Didly, were more of an influence on them than the Beatles. James Brown was also a huge inspiration on them.


45 posted on 06/01/2007 5:10:33 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Sgt. Pepper makes me think of the pied piper leading children into the sea. It needn’t have been an LSD advertisement but that’s how they liked it dressed up. Beautiful New Age perversion, verging on the satanic. “Sometimes Satan Comes As A Man Of Peace”, Dylan later wrote.


46 posted on 06/01/2007 5:25:42 AM PDT by dangerfield
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To: SuziQ
For the benfit of Mr. Kite, there will be a show tonight, on trampoline......

The Hendersons will all be there, late of Pablo Fangues fair, what a scene!.......

47 posted on 06/01/2007 5:25:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

The Stones were a R&B band and had no interest in the Acid?.......RU kidding?......


48 posted on 06/01/2007 5:27:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: Red Badger
The Stones were a R&B band and had no interest in the Acid?

.......RU kidding?......


I have over 90 Stones CDs and over 30 stones books, history, bio's, etc..

No I'm not kidding.


PS:
I've seen them in concert 9 times.
I guess you could say I'm a fan.
49 posted on 06/01/2007 5:36:20 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Re-read what I wrote.........


50 posted on 06/01/2007 5:40:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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