Posted on 05/31/2007 9:20:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
“Why do “conservatives” sound more anti-business and pro-minimum wage than Rats when it comes to Mexican labor? Where are labor intensive businesses going to find workers if all the Mexicans are deported??”
Probably because conservatives want our laws enforced and have some loyalty to this country.
There’s no reason we should have to subsidize your Mexican labor force, and pay all the social costs you dump on the rest of us. Raise your wages if you need to attract American workers. If you can’t, or won’t, then the market is telling you your business isn’t competitive.
Why should we subsidize you any more than the thousands of other businesses that have gone under? Where is it written that you deserve to stay in business, and to do so you should be allowed to bend any laws you find inconvenient?
FRiend, I can't let you do that. You'd be getting taken to the cleaners. You must invest your money wisely. LOL!
Pound Sand!
Jeb Bush = No answer.
WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!
Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.
Jeb has a son who is Half Mexicano. He is the nephew of Jorge Bush. A dynasty in the making. Once the illegal aliens get the vote they will vote for the Bush nephew and son. So the theory goes. Americanos be dammed.
Ken Mehlman, is that the guy that used to be on Letterman? Nah, he was probably smarter than that.
Good point, they justed busted an illegal here in Minnesota transporting millions in marijuana.
Pound Burritos!
Hey Jeb, you were a fine governor. Now S.T.F.U. or forever look like a stupid buttboy for your brother.
add these two to the “dumb-ass” list
Tell me. How do you "enhance" the rule of law? Either the law rules or it doesn't. These people have got to go. Leave public life and go away forever.
I frankly think Bush has a fairly coherent, yet viciously Machiavellian strategy. The first step is to disintegrate the US culture by the wholesale migration of Mexicans into the US - which he has partially accomplished by his dereliction of duty on the borders. Now he seeks to legitimize this “fait accomplis” via this travesty of an immigration “reform” bill.
Three years ago the number of illegals was estimated as between 12 and 20 million, and that was three years ago. It’s probably significantly higher now. Under the proposed bill, what with the anchor babies, spouse and children waivers - this could mean anywhere between 50 and 120 million of the lowest strata of a third-world nation suddenly becoming legal residents of this nation - depending on which end of the estimates one uses.
After this step - which is the really hard part - the integration with Mexico would be seen as not causing much change - since a good part of Mexico will be in the US anyway, and the also much-discussed integration with Canada might even be seen as a Godsend - providing a place to run to when the US goes straight to hell (although I don’t think the government will be selling it along those lines).
The greater question, of course, is why is Bush doing this? My theory is that the corporate elite has convinced Bush that the American public and worker is lazy, overpaid, inefficient and otherwise completely non-competitive in this new world of Asian competition. Not only that - the average American citizen is not reproducing at rates necessary to fund the huge liabilities building in Social Security and other government entitlement programs. Therefore - the only way to compete with greater Asia and sustain the economic and governmental status quo, is to import a low-wage work force that will drastically reduce wages while providing the tax base necessary to fund the huge costs of this greatly expanded government of ours.
If this is the case, then Bush is not only insane, but much worse. We will have slipped into a twilight zone of a government that started as a representative democracy - but has ended up as a defacto oligarchy of elites. Such accusations about government plans and motives have heretofore always been dismissed as excessively conspiratorial and a product of over-active imaginations. But, that was back when people could only accuse the government of PLANNING to do wacky things. Now they are actively out in the open pushing this vast, sweeping bill that is jaw-dropping in its insanity. And they’re only out in the open because they failed to ram it through the Senate without debate.
We Do live in interesting times...
We have a program to bring agricultural workers into the country temporarily and legally.
We do not need construction workers or anything else. There ARE Americans who are ready, willing and able to work doing just about anything other than picking produce.
Hardly anti-business and pro-minimum wage. These “immigrants” are more expensive to the US taxpayer than they are cheap to the sleazy businesses that hire them.
“Didn’t Jeb marry an illegal?”
Chances are, yes.
They met when he was there for college. One day, after Jeb had left, she told her family she was going to the post office and she disappeared. She managed to get into the states and IIRC about a year later married Jeb. All these years and her family has never heard from her since. They’ve tried to contact her, she has refused to speak to them.
“That’s why anyone that wants border control must insist that they prove they will do that by actually doing it. Then and only then should we talk about the other aspects of the immigration problem.”
And that’s why Bush continues to say, “In order to secure our borders, we MUST have comprehensive immigration reform (amnesty)....sounds like blackmail, doesn’t it?
If you’ve got proof that she migrated legally, I’d like to see it. I’ve done quite a bit of research on her and have found no evidence of a legal entry.
“related and there is LOTS of ammo in this argument against Illegal Aliens mooting specious attacks against a perfectly legal immigrant. You are better than that.”
oh, and what the heck is that suppose to mean? That freeper asked a question, he/she didn’t attack anyone, you did.
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