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McClatchy Exclusive: Bush Accuses Conservative Critics Of Fear-Mongering On Immigration
The San Luis Obispo Tribune ^ | 5/30/07 | Ron Hutcheson/McClatchy Newspapers

Posted on 05/31/2007 6:58:57 AM PDT by truthkeeper

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To: truthkeeper
truthie, he's not going to give this up....
..no matter the zillions of phone calls, emails and fax from the American citizens..

Either he's dug in, or someone else is calling the shots.

This is not going to go away, I fear.

21 posted on 05/31/2007 7:11:16 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: TommyDale

Bush hasn’t fought for anything other than illegal immigrants. Maybe that is the reason he and his justice department have done nothing about corruption in the Democrat Party. Is it a trade off?

He has let the RATs and the media kick him around, while leaving all of us who voted for him and defended him out to dry. He has bad mouthed and name called the Americans who were his defenders. Go to Mexico, Bush, you are more at home there.

I no longer think Bush or many others in our treasonous government represent what is best for America.

Its time for people to really drive home that point to all of them.


22 posted on 05/31/2007 7:11:50 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Brilliant
None of this would be happening if Bush had simply adopted a commonsense immigration enforcement policy at the beginning of his administration. He’s got no one to blame for this problem but himself

Needed to be repeated. I agree COMPLETELY.

23 posted on 05/31/2007 7:12:44 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

The Devil is in the details Mr. Bush....

From The New York Post

RX FOR BREAKDOWN
By KRIS W. KOBACH
May 27, 2007 — ONE of the biggest - and least discussed - problems with the immigration bill now before the Senate is the sheer impossibility of implementing it.
The measure would triple the workload at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services - an agency that the Government Accountability Office says is already at the breaking point. It’s an invitation not only to fraud, but to any terrorist group or criminal gang that’s looking to insert minions into America.
AT the center of the bill is the massive “Z visa” amnesty - whereby virtually all of the 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the country could become lawfully present, able to renew the visa indefinitely until they die.
To qualify, an alien must have entered before Jan. 1, and have remained in the United States ever since. Each applicant must also have a job or be the parent, child or spouse of someone who does.
Many of the bill’s advocates claim the amnesty doesn’t take effect until some future date - after the measure’s border-security goals are met. Not true - at least, not in effect. The amnesty starts immediately - with the issuance of probationary Z visas.
And that qualifier means little: The probationary visa is nearly as good as the non-probationary one, giving the alien immediate lawful status, protection from deportation and work authorization the alien to work. He or she can exit and re-enter the country (with advance permission).
It will extremely hard for the government to prevent criminals and terrorists from getting these probationary visas. The bill allows the federal government only one business day to do a “background check” on each applicant.
The bill’s authors seem ignorant of what this means in practice. The government has no single, readily searchable database of all the world’s dangerous people. Much of the relevant information exists only on paper, while foreign governments are the source for other data.
NOR does the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) have the resources to implement an amnesty on this scale. Consider a few numbers.
On top of the millions of illegals already in the country, we can expect a mass influx of millions of new illegals arriving to fraudulently apply for the amnesty. Fraud won’t be hard: To show they were “actually” here before Jan. 1, the bill requires USCIS workers to accept any bank statement, pay stub, remittance receipt or similar record - all easily forgeable.
This is exactly what happened with the 1986 amnesty. Hundreds of thousands streamed across the border to fraudulently apply. Caseworkers found 398,000 cases of fraud - and no one knows how much fraud went undetected.
So let’s assume (conservatively) that 12 million illegals apply for the amnesty within the year allowed. Since the federal government is open for business 250 days a year, there will be an average of 48,000 amnesty applications every day.
USCIS now has about 3,000 “adjudicators” - the caseworkers who’d have to process the Z-visa applications. The Senate bill would only add 100 a year for five years - “subject to the availability of appropriations.” And it wouldn’t be easy to expand the force much faster, due to the difficulty of hiring and training new adjudicators.
So, we have 3,000 people hit with 48,000 applications a day. Of course, on some days - or in some offices - the number could easily double. And with each application, the adjudicator has only one day to determine if the alien is a criminal or a national security threat.
It gets worse. Those numbers assume that the adjudicators aren’t already busy. In fact, they’re swamped.
IN FY 2005, USCIS received 6.3 million applications - on top of a backlog of several million unresolved applications.
The agency is stretched to the breaking point, according to a 2006 study by the federal Government Accountability Office. That report noted that, because adjudicators must go through so many applications for benefits (for green cards, asylum and much more) every day, they spend too little time scrutinizing them. As a result, the GAO concluded, failure to detect fraud is already “an ongoing and serious problem.”
The back-breaking workload results in what the GAO calls a “high pressure production environment.” It is widely known that an unofficial “six-minute rule” applies - spend no more than six minutes looking at any single application.
It’s a bureaucratic sweatshop. Adjudicators told the GAO that their managers were consumed with meeting “production goals,” driving the workers to process applications too quickly and increasing the risk of undetected fraud. Cash rewards are even given to the adjudicators who can work the fastest.
As a result, USCIS doesn’t even bother to do commonsense verification with outside agencies - for example, calling a state Department of Motor Vehicles to see if two people claiming to be married actually live at the same address. Such scrutiny would take too much time. Many managers actually discourage caseworkers from seeking more info from aliens who submit suspicious applications.
If they won’t call an American DMV, how can we expect the agency to contact local officials in Colombia to check for a criminal record?
Meanwhile, the pressure of the one-day time limit for background checks would force all amnesty applicants to the top of the pile. So much for the promise from the bill’s authors that “illegal aliens will go to the back of the line.”
THE USCIS is already dangerously overburdened and unable to effectively detect fraud. Yet the Senate bill would triple the incoming workload - adding 12 million amnesty applications on top of the 6 million or so the caseworkers already have to handle each year. (By the way, the 12 million amnesty recipients would have to come back every four years to renew their Z-visas, too.)
Last year, with a similarly huge amnesty on the table, USCIS officials said the agency might well contract out the amnesty work to people who’d get receive only a few weeks of training. And there would be no time to do background checks on the contract workers, themselves. That’s no way handle American security.
Either way, the six-minute rule would have to become a three-minute rule, or possibly a two-minute rule. Fraudulent applications would sail through by the millions.
It’s a recipe for bureaucratic collapse.
Kris W. Kobach is a professor of law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City. As counsel to the U.S. Attorney General, 2001-03, he was the attorney general’s chief adviser on immigration law.


24 posted on 05/31/2007 7:12:59 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: w1andsodidwe

“Shopping is a nightmare. Can’t get down the aisles, because of whole families blocking aisles.”

I went to Dillard’s the other day and in the corner of the FORMAL ladies’ area there was a women yakking on her cell phone at the top of her lungs and sitting on the floor spread-eagle changing her baby on the carpet!

I kid you not! I told the clerk they need to do something about their clientele. I won’t go back, that’s for sure.


25 posted on 05/31/2007 7:15:16 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: DManA

‘It is Biblical to love your enemy.’

So I’ve heard. I don’t subscribe to that particular brand of insanity, no offense intended towards you btw.

’ It is not Biblical to spit in your friends’ faces.’

Yep. Its shear stupidity, under the circumstances. The President’s party lost the House, and the Senate. He seems oblivious to the fact the Democrats don’t just want to oppose him, they want to destroy him and his Administration.

Given that, why insult those of us that voted for him in the first place, TWICE?

I’ll never understand the President consistently taking the side of the Mexican’s over us.

Never.


26 posted on 05/31/2007 7:15:35 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: truthkeeper
Mr. President, illegal immigration is not the backbone or lifeblood of this nation. Giving a pass to lawbreakers, which will encourage more of the same, is NOT the backbone or lifeblood of this country.

Those who propose that we do such things, as this immigration bill proposes, are the ones who have lost their soul and are those who are destroyoing our nation.

We welcome legal immigrants because they WANT to assimilate and become Americans. These others do not want to become a part of America and we will not tolerate our Republic being watered down and divided by those who do not want to be American because scheming politicians want to institute an "American Union" which destroys our national heritage and our soveriegnty.

That's what this is really about and there are those of us who recognize it and have recognized it all along...and those numbers are growing rapidly as you and others push these shameful, wholly unAmerican agenda and then try and tell us to our face that it is good.

I pray for you Mr. President. I honestly think you somehow believe that it is compassionate to do what you are doing. I tell you now. it is not compassionate. It is destructive and will be the downfall of everything in this nation that allows us to be so compassionate to others who want to come here through the established legal means.

27 posted on 05/31/2007 7:15:36 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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one of many Bush jump the shark moments.


28 posted on 05/31/2007 7:15:47 AM PDT by llevrok (Beer for my horses and whiskey for my men!)
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To: indylindy

Well stated. I think it might go back to Bush’s personal friendship as Governor of Texas with then-President of Mexico Vicente Fox. Toss in a Mexican-American Border Patrol chief, and a Mexican-American Attorney General, do you really expect Bush to do what’s right? We are nothing but peons, but we got the guy elected. I’m sorry I ever voted the the guy now.


29 posted on 05/31/2007 7:15:52 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: truthkeeper
Maybe he's got a point. Instead of "fear-mongering" about immigration, we should start "fear-mongering" about federal government arrogance and corruption.

Like many Freepers, I voted for that man twice, and I'm bitterly dissapointed with him now. I'm sick to death of his phony piety on this issue.

30 posted on 05/31/2007 7:16:03 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
After voting for him twice, and giving money to his second campaign - the first time in my life I gave money to a political cause - I would now adamantly support his impeachment.

His backing of this bill is flat-out treason.

31 posted on 05/31/2007 7:17:06 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: truthkeeper
"I’m deeply concerned about America losing its soul.

I lost faith in the president's ability to analyze souls when he said of Putin "I looked the man in the eye. I was able to get a sense of his soul."

32 posted on 05/31/2007 7:17:36 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parker v. DC: the best court decision of the year.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Remember how we were all just a bunch of sexists because we didn’t approve of the nomination?

Or racists because of objections to the Dubi ports deal.

33 posted on 05/31/2007 7:17:57 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: indylindy

What’s with this new liberal dream of GW’s. $30 Billion for world aids that hasn’t been requested by anybody and a separate Africa military command. Hey George, how about spending some of this money we don’t have at home?


34 posted on 05/31/2007 7:18:51 AM PDT by Plains Drifter (I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it!!!)
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To: VR-21

He’s lost his mind.


35 posted on 05/31/2007 7:19:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: truthkeeper
“None of this would be happening if Bush had simply adopted a commonsense immigration enforcement policy at the beginning of his administration. He’s got no one to blame for this problem but himself”

David Frum’s book on Bush, “The Right Man” written not long after 9/11 has a chapter on immigration that was very compelling. In it Frum said that Hispanics were the fastest growing voting block and that was impacting Bush’s border policy from even the early days. And you cant just point the finger at Bush because both parties are just as guilty in pandering for the Hispanic vote.

36 posted on 05/31/2007 7:20:59 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: truthkeeper

Definition of a LOSER.

One who cannot distinguish friend from enemy.

There is NO ONE who wishes you more harm than Teddy Kennedy.

I am your friend, I have wished you the best. I voted for you twice.

I have always been and will always be for securing our borders, telling Vincente Fox and whoever else might be el Presidente of Mexico to keep out of our business, and for enforcing whatever the law is.

You are a bigger LOSER than your promising breaking NWO father and that is saying something.

History will not be kind to a draft dodging drunk of a fratboy who was caught driving drunk with his own sister. Your butt buddy Teddy Kennedy never drove his sisters in drunken stupors, just political groupies, but then again you never had enough masculine charm for female groupies, save for Harriet Miers.


37 posted on 05/31/2007 7:22:07 AM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: Froufrou
went to Dillard’s the other day and in the corner of the FORMAL ladies’ area there was a women yakking on her cell phone at the top of her lungs and sitting on the floor spread-eagle changing her baby on the carpet!

Yeh, if the Texas beaches are any indication...she probably left aforementioned diaper right there on the floor.

38 posted on 05/31/2007 7:24:16 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: Badeye

“I wish the President would take on Democrats in this manner.”

You’re right on Badeye. Bush will lick the boots of every socialist Democrat, muslim psychotic and race hustler in the country, but now, finally, he rises to the fight...against we the people.


39 posted on 05/31/2007 7:24:22 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: Badeye

No offense taken. I don’t understand it either. I just take it on faith that it works.


40 posted on 05/31/2007 7:25:24 AM PDT by DManA
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