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Judge halts enforcement of rental ban against illegal immigrants
Houston Chronicle ^ | May 21, 2007, 4:53PM | ANABELLE GARAY Associated Press Writer

Posted on 05/21/2007 3:46:07 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000

FARMERS BRANCH, Texas — A federal judge on Monday issued an order halting enforcement of a voter-endorsed ordinance preventing apartment rentals to most illegal immigrants, a day before the ban was to take effect in this Dallas suburb.

U.S. District Judge Sam A. Lindsay wrote that only the federal government can determine whether a person is in the United States legally.

Instead of deferring to federal officials, Farmers Branch has created its own classification to determine which noncitizens may rent an apartment, the judge ruled, also noting that Farmers Branch appeared to have taken federal regulations regarding housing benefits for noncitizens and used them to define who may rent an apartment in the city.

"The court recognizes that illegal immigration is a major problem in this country, and one who asserts otherwise ignores reality," Lindsay wrote. "The court also fully understands the frustration of cities attempting to address a national problem that the federal government should handle; however, such frustration, no matter how great, cannot serve as a basis to pass an ordinance that conflicts with federal law."

The ordinance was to take effect Tuesday, more than a week after voters approved the regulation by 68 percent, according to unofficial election results.

However, "public approval of the Ordinance, by itself, does not guide the court as to whether the Ordinance complies with the law," the judge wrote.

Opponents of the ordinance filed three requests in federal court for an order to stop its enforcement.

The ordinance requires managers to verify that renters are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants before leasing to them, with some exceptions. Violators face fines of up to $500, and each day would be considered a separate violation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; farmersbranch; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 05/21/2007 3:46:09 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000

Lawlessness. Anarchy.


2 posted on 05/21/2007 3:48:19 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (Thanks, Cacique)
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To: TaxPayer2000
BIOGRAPHY
Birth: 1951
Year Service Began: 1998
Appointed by: President William J. Clinton
Education: St. Mary's University, San Antonio 1974 BA; University of Texas School of Law 1977 JD
Government: Texas Aeronautics Commission 1977 - 1979; Dallas City Attorney's Office, 1979 - 1992; Dallas City Attorney 1992 - 1998
Current Memberships: State Bar of Texas and Dallas Legal Association

Source

3 posted on 05/21/2007 3:48:35 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: TaxPayer2000

So it sounds as if only the federal government can pass any laws or take any action to deal with illegal immigration. Which brings us back to Washington and the back room deal that they are trying to pass right now.


4 posted on 05/21/2007 3:48:48 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: TaxPayer2000

Just say NO to Amnesty!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


5 posted on 05/21/2007 3:48:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Yet again, legislating from the bench. Doesn’t matter what the voters say anymore.


6 posted on 05/21/2007 3:49:15 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Soon to be Fredbacker1)
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To: TaxPayer2000
people need to think for a minute , How Mexico would react to MILLIONS of Americans , invading their country and then acting as total scofflaw’s.

If they wouldn't’t allow it , why should we ?

Stop the namby-pamby hypocrisy!
Parity !

7 posted on 05/21/2007 3:50:11 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: TaxPayer2000

This ruling is a joke. More anti-American illegal alien amnesty.

I hope Farmers Branch fights this. I am tired of Latino Racist groups like La Raza (The Race) dictate that illegal aliens have more rights than American citizens


8 posted on 05/21/2007 3:51:29 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Republicans: Democrats With Jobs)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Ridiculous ruling.


9 posted on 05/21/2007 3:54:36 PM PDT by bvw
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To: martin_fierro

You beat me to it !


10 posted on 05/21/2007 3:55:36 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: TaxPayer2000
only the federal government can determine whether a person is in the United States legally.

While I hate the ruling, I understand it. Who's to say that these people aren't here on a Work VISA, Student VISA, H1B Visa or here as tourists or are political refugees (granted, this is a 0.001% likelihood).

We live in a Republic, not a Democracy; and this serves as a great example of why a Republic is superior. This is not a case of mob rule, the judge did his job and indicated 'Why' the law as written cannot work. Now, it is up to the township to find a way to get the same result, within the fabric of the law; or work to overturn that law, or work with the state to create a law that they can enforce.

Once this precedent is set, and the loopholes are filled, other towns can enact legally sound measures to accomplish what this town started.

11 posted on 05/21/2007 3:56:32 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: martin_fierro

Black-robed Clintonistas once more.

Like the one Clintonista said: “It’ll take years for them to undo what we’ve done.”


12 posted on 05/21/2007 3:57:14 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: TaxPayer2000
As soon as anyone finds and posts a link to the text of this decision, I will read the decision and post a thorough analysis of it. Let me know.

John / Billybob

13 posted on 05/21/2007 3:57:38 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Please visit www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: martin_fierro
Was it Teddy Roosevelt who thumbed his nose at the court and said "They have made their ruling. Now let them enforce it."? Or am I thinking of somebody else.

Somebody needs to stand up to the dictators in black robes.

14 posted on 05/21/2007 3:58:58 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: martin_fierro
Was it Teddy Roosevelt who thumbed his nose at the court and said "They have made their ruling. Now let them enforce it."? Or am I thinking of somebody else.

Somebody needs to stand up to the dictators in black robes.

15 posted on 05/21/2007 3:59:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: TaxPayer2000

The law was pretty unenforceable. There is no way somebody renting a room can tell if papers are fake or not. The only accessible citizenship database is for employers only, and any other use is unlawful.

What this means practically, is when they try and nail some landlord for renting to an illegal, he just shrugs and says “Their papers looked good to me”, and there’s not a dang thing they could do to prove otherwise.

The only way they could get around this would be to require that all persons renting in their city have to get police approval before they can rent. And *that* isn’t going to happen.


16 posted on 05/21/2007 3:59:54 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: TaxPayer2000
I know this won't happen, but I'd very much like to see this town tell the judge to shove it, and the town enforce their new law anyway. The fact of the matter is,the federal government has decided openly that its own law can be broken with impunity. Therefore, all local governments should consider the federal government to be in a state of complete abdication of authority, and they should therefore enforce their own laws as they see fit, in the manner of the sovereign states that they were also intended to be.
17 posted on 05/21/2007 3:59:54 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well not exactly, the Congress passed a fence law in Oct 2006, I wonder if it was a “just kidding” law like all the others. If you ask me, that law serves as a good start point, when people ask what is your ideas, that’s what I say, build the fence that was voted into law last year.

If not, guess how the enforcement part of the current sham-nesty bill will turn out.

18 posted on 05/21/2007 4:00:31 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Hodar
Who's to say that these people aren't here on a Work VISA, Student VISA, H1B Visa or here as tourists or are political refugees

those people can validate their status.

19 posted on 05/21/2007 4:00:43 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Just change from “illegal immigrants” to “valid Driver License, SSN, plus anything else difficult for illegals to get.

The judge gave a way around this... just avoid “illegal immigrant”.


20 posted on 05/21/2007 4:01:15 PM PDT by Principled
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To: TaxPayer2000
Judge Sam A. Lindsay


21 posted on 05/21/2007 4:01:18 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Vigilanteman

IIRC that was President Abraham Lincoln.


22 posted on 05/21/2007 4:07:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Hodar
Who's to say that these people aren't here on a Work VISA, Student VISA, H1B Visa or here as tourists or are political refugees

If they are....they will have the documents to prove it. This law only affects illegals. It is nothing more than the I-9 you have to fill out for employment.
23 posted on 05/21/2007 4:07:11 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

What if the criminal aliens, crooks, terrorists and narco-gangsters don’t want amnesty? Why should they? Wouldn’t they have to pay taxes? How can you force criminals to become citizens? Why would you? If these people really wanted to be real citizens they wouldn’t use phony ID’s.

NO AMNESTY for Employers or Employees!


24 posted on 05/21/2007 4:07:58 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Vigilanteman
I think it was Andrew Jackson who said that.
The Supreme Court had ruled in favor of the Creek Indians in a case concerning ownership of gold-bearing land.
25 posted on 05/21/2007 4:08:35 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (aka Nomo Mecks)
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To: Vigilanteman

It was Andrew Jackson. He also liberated Florida when the Spanish refused to enforce their borders.


26 posted on 05/21/2007 4:11:06 PM PDT by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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To: TaxPayer2000
U.S. District Judge Sam A. Lindsay wrote that only the federal government can determine whether a person is in the United States legally. [And later]...such frustration, no matter how great, cannot serve as a basis to pass an ordinance that conflicts with federal law

I keep seeing this stated as a fact, but I have never been able to verify that it is true. Does anyone know which law or part of the Constitution delegates this only to the federal government?

27 posted on 05/21/2007 4:12:57 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: LeoWindhorse
Mexicans are extremely tough on any illegal aliens. None of this pampering that is done in this country. They way the Bush administration and the Democrats keep catering to illegals one would think these illegal aliens consist mostly of Nobel Prize candidates who would greatly enhance our gene pool and the quality of our life. Not true.

Illegal aliens are criminals who are invading this country and damaging it on numerous levels from the environment to our health systems. If Washington has its way, the illegal will be granted citizenship and this rabble will decide the future of this country.

28 posted on 05/21/2007 4:15:51 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Hodar
While I hate the ruling, I understand it.

I don't see what there is to understand. The city is not asking for the deportation of illegals, only that business within the city comply with a city law voted for by residents of that city. Why is this a Federal issue ?

29 posted on 05/21/2007 4:16:36 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: TaxPayer2000
Lindsay wrote that only the federal government can determine whether a person is in the United States legally.

The stupidity is staggering. Whenever ANYONE hires an employee, isn't the employer required by law to determine legitimacy to work in the US by a hierarchy of specific identification documents (form I-9)? Maybe this requirement should be deemed beyond the scope of an employer's responsibility based upon this ridiculous ruling.

I smell a partisan hack.

30 posted on 05/21/2007 4:18:44 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: RagingBull
It was Andrew Jackson. He also liberated Florida when the Spanish refused to enforce their borders.

Which reminds me. Were there any flags with the action?


31 posted on 05/21/2007 4:19:27 PM PDT by James W. Fannin (Thanks, Cacique)
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To: FreedomCalls
Does anyone know which law or part of the Constitution delegates this only to the federal government?

It doesn't. This is why elections matter so we can keep out activist judges who legislate from the bench.

32 posted on 05/21/2007 4:20:32 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: fwdude
I smell a partisan hack.

See post # 3

33 posted on 05/21/2007 4:22:08 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: TaxPayer2000

Sam Lindsay ain’t no judge, he’s a blackrobed terriorist, dispensing tyranny from the bench. The people of this country, according to this scumbag, have no say concerning their own community. According to “Scumbag Lindsay”, only the government can decide the fate of your community. According to “Judge Scumbag”, our votes don’t count in this country. Here’s a news flash for ya Judge Scumbag, free people have always taken down tyrants like YOU, so enjoy your trip to the trash heap of history, you !@#$%&.


34 posted on 05/21/2007 4:27:00 PM PDT by Msgt USMC (Lead, follow, or get the heck outta the way!)
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To: P-40
If they are....they will have the documents to prove it. This law only affects illegals. It is nothing more than the I-9 you have to fill out for employment.

Exactly. I am a property manager for an apartment complex that has a large Hispanic population.

The company I work for just bought this property. We require all applicants to have a valid SS#, which we verify through the credit screening company we use. If a person doesn't have a SS#, they can apply with a tax id number but they must have documentation to prove they can reside and work in this country. We require this for every person 18 or older. It isn't foolproof, someone can always sneak other people in but we are trying our best.

It seems like the word has gotten out in the Hispanic community that we verify information because we have had a large drop off in the number of illegals that apply.

Previous management and ownership rented to anyone that walked through the door.

35 posted on 05/21/2007 4:34:27 PM PDT by muggs
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To: Principled

I think you are right. I think he had issues with the way the law was worded, and did everything but say change the wording to “blah, blah, blah”. If they had phrased the law so that a landlord could not rent an apartment to someone who did not have certain identification, instead of just to illegals, it might have been acceptable.

But, I wouldn’t want to ruin all the ranting on Clinton’s terrorist judges.


36 posted on 05/21/2007 4:37:06 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: Hodar

Pay them a dollar a month for cleaning their walkway and require a valid I-9 to rent/work.


37 posted on 05/21/2007 4:38:14 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Hodar

Using theat same logic, no one can be denied a job because he is here illegally.


38 posted on 05/21/2007 4:43:02 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Hodar

Come to think of it, using that same logic, no illegals can be denied state benefits.


39 posted on 05/21/2007 4:44:04 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

They’re fighting it. They knew from the get-go that the ACLU would go judge shopping. They also happen to be in an appelate district where they have a fair chance of getting an honest hearing. So, they’ll take an appeal.

The ACLU’s tactic in these cases is to misuse the ‘private attorney general’ provisions of the Civil Rights Act, which provide that anyone who brings a Civil Rights action and prevails can collect attorney’s fees. They do everything they can to run up the bill and use that to try to club the opposition into submission. One of Farmer’s Branch’s smart tactical decisions was to make the effective date of the ordinance a week after the vote, thereby limiting the amount of fees the ACLU could run up.

Freepers who want to kick in a few bucks to help Farmers Branch in their fight will find a defense fund page here
http://www.farmersbranch.info/Communication/Legal%20Defense%20Fund%20Donate.html


40 posted on 05/21/2007 4:45:40 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, it was Andrew Jackson.


41 posted on 05/21/2007 4:47:12 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: James W. Fannin

This is not unexpected. The defense can easily argue that if it is ruled unconstitutional, then renters will be irreparably harmed.


42 posted on 05/21/2007 4:48:21 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

I got the impression this was a ruling to halt enforcement until there was a final decision. I could be wrong.


43 posted on 05/21/2007 4:50:58 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: muggs

The rumor mill in the illegal community is quite active, as you’ve discovered. The same thing works for government on the local level. Towns that aggressively enforce drivers licenses, vehicle registration, DUI, financial responsibility, garage conversion, and lawn parking laws have a tendency to become unpopular with illegals.


44 posted on 05/21/2007 4:52:01 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ga medic
But, I wouldn’t want to ruin all the ranting on Clinton’s terrorist judges.

;)

45 posted on 05/21/2007 4:54:22 PM PDT by Principled
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To: AmishDude

I think you’re right. Should be a TRO pending a trial on the issue of whether to permanently enjoin enforcement. Hopefully, they got an early trial date to keep the ACLU from running up the bill excessively.


46 posted on 05/21/2007 4:58:08 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: All

It’s worth mentioning here that there’s also some piling-on going on. Farmer’s Branch was also sued today for having city-wide City Council elections instead of districts. The three Hispanics suing them claim that if they had districts, there’d be an Hispanic on the Council. This is sort of a private version of the same garbage Bill Lan Lee tried to pull when he was in the Justice Department.


47 posted on 05/21/2007 5:07:43 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Dilbert San Diego

They can’t just pass this law; especially if the people have already voted.


48 posted on 05/21/2007 5:21:18 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: TaxPayer2000

I knew it would happen. Someone once said that there is no issue that you couldn’t find some dumb federal district judge to rule as unlawful. Looks like the ACLU, thumbing through their Rolodex, found that judge.


49 posted on 05/21/2007 6:19:27 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Dante3
I keep thinking that if the South had won the Civil War and the States had retained preeminent States Rights , these border States now would be able to call their own shots about what sort of immigration is tolerated far more effectively. Rather than it ultimately be left up to a vast ,manipulatable and distant Federal system ,that may also be corrupt in considering this matter as well.
50 posted on 05/21/2007 7:29:50 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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