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Open House at Mosque of Suspects Proves Tense (Fort Dix)
The New York Times ^ | May 19, 2007 | KAREEM FAHIM

Posted on 05/19/2007 4:01:34 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000

PALMYRA, N.J., May 18 — The man sat in the back row of the mosque, his arms folded, unsure whether his hard opinions would change.

“I’m concerned about the Muslims,” the man, Richard Smekal, 68, said just before an open house at the mosque, the Islamic Center of South Jersey, where four of six men accused of plotting to kill soldiers at Fort Dix had worshiped.

“Personally, I believe that Islam is a religion of the sword,” he said. But he admitted that he had never asked a Muslim.

The meeting at the mosque — for community members, local officials and law enforcement authorities — was perhaps an opportunity to do just that. But Mr. Smekal walked out, past the booklets about Islam and the refreshments, before a question-and-answer session at the end of the meeting. Still, many of the more than 100 people who attended, apparently harboring similar concerns about the mosque and the religion, asked questions of their own, steering the evening dialogue toward an angry conclusion.

What were mosque leaders doing to teach congregants that violence is not justified? a man asked. Would the arrested men be welcome back in the mosque?

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmis; fortdix; islam; muhammadsminions; taqiyya

1 posted on 05/19/2007 4:01:36 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000

The only time I saw the inside of a mosque was through the hole we blasted with a Hellfire.

And I don’t have to ask a Mooj about his religion - I can read the little black book called the Koran.


2 posted on 05/19/2007 4:08:28 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: Old Sarge

Great response.
In addition to the little black book just read a list of all the attacks perpetrated by the mooj over the past decade.
Like that word “the mooj”


3 posted on 05/19/2007 4:13:50 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days.)
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To: Old Sarge
'The only time I saw the inside of a mosque was through the hole we blasted with a Hellfire.'

Damn, I am jealous. Every time the DoD raised the enlistment age ceiling and I thought I could re-up, they always cut me off by six months. LOL


4 posted on 05/19/2007 4:22:32 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Fred Thompson in '08, baby!)
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To: TaxPayer2000
“Personally, I believe that Islam is a religion of the sword,” he said. But he admitted that he had never asked a Muslim.

Strangely, they're not talking.

5 posted on 05/19/2007 4:24:13 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: TaxPayer2000
Still, many of the more than 100 people who attended, apparently harboring similar concerns about the mosque and the religion, asked questions of their own, steering the evening dialogue toward an angry conclusion.

Yeah, it's the questioners' fault.

Typical NYT bullsh*t.

6 posted on 05/19/2007 4:27:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: TaxPayer2000

TheReligionofPeace.com

Islamic Terror Attacks on American Soil

 

We recently got taken to the mat by a polite, young Muslim living in the U.K. who took issue with our oft-repeated statement that no Muslim-American lost their life to vigilante violence following 9/11.  She provided us a list of six or seven candidates and, after whittling out the ones where the killer was unknown or in cases with mitigating circumstances such as “victim was sleeping with killer’s ex-girlfriend” (we’re not making that up), we reached a shocking conclusion: 

We were wrong. 

There is one seemingly unambiguous case that occurred in Dallas, Texas where Waqar Hasan, a Muslim convenience storeowner, was gunned down by Mark Anthony Stroman four days after the 9/11 attacks.  Stroman claimed to have been motivated by anger from watching the towers fall.  He is not exactly your average American, however, even apart from the shooting.  For one thing, he is a white supremacist who carried a felony criminal record at the time of the attack.  He also went on to shoot two more people in the weeks that followed. 

Although news of the crime was overshadowed in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Stroman’s name brings up more Google hits than some of the 9/11 hijackers – and only a handful of World Trade Center victims are mentioned more on the Web than Waqar Hasan.  (Interestingly, the name of a Sikh, killed by someone mistaking him for an Arab actually brings up far more hits than either Hasan or any murdered WTC victim with the exception of the firehouse chaplain).  Also, unlike the terrorists walking free in Muslim countries, an American jury sentenced Mark Stroman to death (which we wholeheartedly support).

Nevertheless, we acknowledge that our Muslim friend is correct and that there was at least one Muslim killed in an anti-Arab hate crime in the U.S. following the anti-American hate crime on 9/11.  For anyone keeping score: 

People killed by radical Muslims on 9/11: 2,996
Muslim-Americans killed in revenge (...by white power felons): 1

Of course, 9/11 was neither the first nor the last time that Muslims have killed Americans on U.S. soil in terror attacks.  In fact, since that day, Muslims have killed at least 31 people in 23 separate attacks in the United States (by the standards of Muslim-American groups set for hate crimes).  Perhaps more importantly, there have been quite a few planned mass murders of Americans by Islamic terrorists that were thwarted by the FBI, law enforcement and overseas intelligence operations both before and after 9/11.

By contrast, Muslim-Americans do not appear to be in any special danger from murderous (non-Muslim) religious fanatics.  Identity groups, such as CAIR, whine incessantly about relatively trivial incidents while turning a blind eye to the horrible violence that is meted out daily in the name of their religion.  This distasteful petulance offers insight not only into the character of Islam, but also the impressive religious tolerance that Americans manage to maintain.

For anyone wondering about the history of deadly Islamic terror on American soil in the last 35 years, here’s what we could find:

 

Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description
7/18/73 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/73 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/73 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/73 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/73 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/73 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to deah on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/73 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/73 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/73 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/74 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/74 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/74 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/77 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/80 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/80 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
1/31/90 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tucscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
11/5/90 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/93 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/93 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/94 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim fires on a vanload of Jewish boys, killing one.
3/23/97 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/97 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
10/31/99 USA Near Nantucket 217 0 An Egyptian airline pilot runs a planeload of 217 passengers into the water after uttering a Qur'anic prayer.
3/17/00 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/01 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/01 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
9/11/01 USA New York, NY 2772 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
3/19/02 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/02 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/02 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/02 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/02 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/02 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/02 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/02 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/02 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/02 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/02 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/02 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/03 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
4/13/04 USA Raleigh, NC 1 4 A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/04 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/25/06 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/06 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American barges into a local Jewish center and shoots six women, one of whom dies.
10/6/06 USA Louisville, KY 4 1 In an 'honor' attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children.
2/13/07 USA Salt Lake City, UT 5 4 A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine's Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.

(3,281 killed by Muslims in America in 55 terror attacks)

7 posted on 05/19/2007 4:28:38 PM PDT by granite ("We dare not tempt them with weakness" - JFK)
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8 posted on 05/19/2007 4:31:07 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: TaxPayer2000
I live in the area...I heard NOTHING about this meet and greet, happy horseshit. I would have been there with both sides of my brain firing on all cylinders to drop knowledge on these suckas. The lack of "warning" leads me to believe the "other side" present at this lovefest were useful idiot dhimmis.

ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO TRIUMPH IS FOR GOOD MOOSELIMBS TO CONTINUE TO DO ABSOULTELY NOTHING!!!

9 posted on 05/19/2007 4:35:09 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: Captainpaintball

Has the mosque publicly renounce violence against non believers of any and all faiths?


10 posted on 05/19/2007 4:48:07 PM PDT by Thebaddog (All dogs are good. Cats are too.)
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Rafey Habib, a professor of English at Rutgers University’s Camden campus and a member of the mosque’s executive committee, tried his best to respond to the anger, speaking about Islamic beliefs and about the mosque’s teachings. “Given the frightening situation in the world today,” he said, “we need to begin the process of understanding one another.”

Yeah. Right.

We already understand all we need to know about the Islamic Swine in our midst. What they need to understand is that they should close down their "mosques" and clear out.

ML/NJ

11 posted on 05/19/2007 4:53:19 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: granite

THANK YOU for this detailed list. I know about a few of these post 9/11 attacks, and have tried to explain to people who say we “don’t need a war” how this shows Islamists are still on the rampage. It will help to have a comprehesive table like this to show to people in a discussion.


12 posted on 05/19/2007 4:53:36 PM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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Has the mosque publicly renounce violence against non believers of any and all faiths?

Who knows... They do mention that they did in the above article. But you wouldn't know it by watching Philly TV or radio. Local news, especially on the radio, has become the absolute pits. 1.) They can't speak properly, 2.)they can't read properly, and 3.)the stories they choose are retarded. Most of the time for #3. They will come through once and a while

13 posted on 05/19/2007 4:57:37 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (NO MORE MONEY TO THE GOP!!! I MEAN IT!!!)
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To: martin_fierro

Hahahah, We the People asked QUESTIONS OF THEIR OWN? hahaha. Yup, because we don’t need to bother to ask the obvious ones.


14 posted on 05/19/2007 5:12:38 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: granite

save


15 posted on 05/19/2007 5:33:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

Pity it wasn’t open season at the mosque instead of open house.


16 posted on 05/19/2007 5:45:59 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: baa39

You’re Welcome. We must have faith in ourselves to defeat this enemy... It IS a fight to the end.


17 posted on 05/19/2007 5:46:34 PM PDT by granite ("We dare not tempt them with weakness" - JFK)
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To: granite
These are just the Attacks on American Soil. Do not forget about the atrocities at sea and abroad.
18 posted on 05/19/2007 5:50:12 PM PDT by granite ("We dare not tempt them with weakness" - JFK)
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To: TaxPayer2000
“Personally, I believe that Islam is a religion of the sword,” he said.

Sounds right to me.

But he admitted that he had never asked a Muslim.

Why bother, they'll just lie.

19 posted on 05/19/2007 7:22:32 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY (Calling illegal aliens undocumented workers is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: TaxPayer2000

“The authorities have called the men Islamic extremists, but have not detailed exactly what role religion played in the plans they are accused of making. There has been no indication of involvement by the mosque here in Palmyra or another one in Philadelphia where four of the men occasionally prayed.”


20 posted on 05/19/2007 7:47:04 PM PDT by james500
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To: granite

bttt


21 posted on 05/19/2007 9:34:34 PM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (What do you call 2 toddlers and some duct tape??........muslim body armor!!!!!!!)
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