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Former U.S. president calls Britain's support for Iraq war a 'major tragedy'
AP ^ | 5/19/07

Posted on 05/19/2007 5:33:14 AM PDT by Valin

LONDON (AP) - Britain's support for the war in Iraq was a "major tragedy" for the world, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said Saturday, as he criticized Tony Blair's unwavering support for George W. Bush. Asked how he would judge the British prime minister's support of Bush, Carter said: "Abominable. Loyal. Blind. Apparently subservient."

"And I think the almost undeviating support by Great Britain for the ill-advised policies of President Bush in Iraq have been a major tragedy for the world," Carter told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Blair was in Baghdad on Saturday morning for what will be his last trip to Iraq as British prime minister. Last week, Blair announced that he would step down June 27, making way for Treasury chief Gordon Brown.

The war in Iraq has been the defining foreign policy issue of Blair's premiership, and the decision to join the U.S.-led invasion was an unpopular one at home. So far, nearly 150 British service personnel have died in Iraq.

Carter said Britain's support made it more difficult for critics of the war, and that things could have been different if Britain had spoken out against the 2003 invasion.

"I can't say it would have made a definitive difference, but it would certainly have assuaged the problems that arose lately," said Carter, who was U.S. president from 1977 to 1981 and has been a critic of the war.

"One of the defenses of the Bush administration, in the American public and on a worldwide basis, and it's not been successful in my opinion, has been that, OK, we must be more correct in our actions than the world thinks because Great Britain is backing us.

"And so I think the combination of Bush and Blair giving their support to this tragedy in Iraq has strengthened the effort, and has made opposition less effective and has prolonged the war and increased the tragedy that has resulted."

It was not the first time Carter has criticized Britain. Last year, he said he was disappointed with "the apparent subservience" of the British government to Washington on issues such as Iraq and last summer's Israel-Hezbollah conflict.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carter; iraq; killerrabbit; mrpeanut; tonyblair
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1 posted on 05/19/2007 5:33:15 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

He’s a fine one to talk about tragedy of leadership./s


2 posted on 05/19/2007 5:34:10 AM PDT by Cornpone (Islam: The world's greatest, preventable and treatable psychosis. ©2006Cornpone)
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To: Valin
"There never has been a time when the power of America was so necessary or so misunderstood, or when, except in the most general sense, a study of history provides so little instruction for our present day."

"Members of Congress, ours are not Western values, they are the universal values of the human spirit. And anywhere, any time ordinary people are given the chance to choose, the choice is the same: freedom, not tyranny; democracy, not dictatorship; the rule of law, not the rule of the secret police."

"So America must listen as well as lead. But, members of Congress, don't ever apologize for your values.
Tell the world why you're proud of America. Tell them when the Star-Spangled Banner starts, Americans get to their feet, Hispanics, Irish, Italians, Central Europeans, East Europeans, Jews, Muslims, white, Asian, black, those who go back to the early settlers and those whose English is the same as some New York cab drivers I've dealt with, but whose sons and daughters could run for this Congress. Tell them why Americans, one and all, stand upright and respectful. Not because some state official told them to, but because whatever race, color, class or creed they are, being American means being free. That's why they're proud."
Tony Blair 7/17/03

3 posted on 05/19/2007 5:34:33 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
Carter is a hemorrhoid.
4 posted on 05/19/2007 5:34:55 AM PDT by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.)
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To: Valin

Mr. Cartier from Welcome Back?


5 posted on 05/19/2007 5:35:58 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Valin

Unbelievable how no one ever swings back at the cowardly Carter, a petty cheap shot artist who was overwhelmingly rejected by the American people.


6 posted on 05/19/2007 5:36:26 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Valin

Carter is pathetic.


7 posted on 05/19/2007 5:36:34 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Valin

Current Freeper calls Carter’s continued consumption of oxygen a major tragedy.


8 posted on 05/19/2007 5:37:22 AM PDT by KevinB
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To: Valin

Carter’s entire public life has been, and continues to be, a tragedy.


9 posted on 05/19/2007 5:37:43 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: driftdiver

Follow-up headline: “Americans apologize to world for having once elected Jimmy Carter”


10 posted on 05/19/2007 5:38:05 AM PDT by NewCenturions (By The Great Horn Spoon !)
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To: ARE SOLE

Hell, the Peanut started the whole Muzzie Mess when he helped dump the Shah. This was all predicted—check the WSJ Editorials of the day.


11 posted on 05/19/2007 5:39:01 AM PDT by Flintlock
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To: driftdiver

You’re only saying that because....it true.

I can only imagine what a joy it was to serve on a sub with him as Capt.


12 posted on 05/19/2007 5:39:15 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin

I didn’t even have to read the article to know it was Carter.


13 posted on 05/19/2007 5:39:22 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Valin

Carter is a sort of ‘reverse barometer’ of what makes sense. Anything that he says can be depended on to be the opposite of what a rational conclusion on examination of the facts would be.

I dimly recall that he was right about something once recently- provoking a lot of ‘stopped clock’ comments, but whatever it was- it was so buried by the usual nonsense that it doesn’t count.

I sometimes wonder if he’s adopted contrarianism as a sort of personal motif; ‘What kind of crap can I say today, that’ll drive them ballistic’?


14 posted on 05/19/2007 5:39:55 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Valin
I knew which former president they were talking about without even opening the thread.

Sad to think that someday this little fart is going to deserve the same send-off that Ronald Reagan got.

15 posted on 05/19/2007 5:39:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Cornpone

why do they let that ossified old goat speak. I am sure SOROS is using this alzheimer’s patient.


16 posted on 05/19/2007 5:41:09 AM PDT by TheShadows (GOP & RNC NOT A DIME NOT A VOTE! (illegal lovers!)
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To: Valin

He may have been a decent naval officer. It wasn’t until after he got into ‘rat politics that he became insane.


17 posted on 05/19/2007 5:42:43 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sad to think that someday this little fart is going to deserve the same send-off that Ronald Reagan got.

I don't know- Reagan's send off was quietly attended by huge, well-behaved crowds. Some of them were pretty recognizable names, and they were conspicuous by not pulling that 'do you know who I am' head-of-the-line stuff.

I can't see Jimmuh's mob being so numerous or well-behaved.

18 posted on 05/19/2007 5:43:50 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Valin
...said Carter, who was U.S. president from 1977 to 1981 ....

...and was NOT President from 1981 to 1985, because he refused to stand up to nationalized terrorism from the Muslim world.

19 posted on 05/19/2007 5:44:23 AM PDT by LantzALot
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To: Valin

A failure as president criticizes a prime minister, president, and country, all in one felt swoop.

Is this kinda like a congress, with a 28% approval rating, expressing a lack of confidence in Attny. General Gonzales?


20 posted on 05/19/2007 5:47:12 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Riley

Carter is a sort of ‘reverse barometer’ of what makes sense.

Yeah, Carter and Ted Kennedy. Unfortunately, Ted is still in the US Senate and our current President apparently values his opinion.


21 posted on 05/19/2007 5:48:15 AM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: Valin
Audio at BBC - "Carter attacks Blair on Iraq"
22 posted on 05/19/2007 5:48:36 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Valin
The headline only said “former president” and I immediately knew it was Carter!
23 posted on 05/19/2007 5:48:39 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Valin

“I can only imagine what a joy it was to serve on a sub with him as Capt.”

Well I would imagine it was easy. He certainly wasnt going to take any risks. You might have to worry about him descending past crush depth though.


24 posted on 05/19/2007 5:50:22 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Non-Sequitur

Well, the trappings may be the same, but I highly doubt people will be lining the funeral route at the same rate.

However, the media will go out of their way to paint him as a saint who was president in a bad time, and had no control over his fate. They will play on his Habitat for Humanity stuff, and what a down to earth guy he was.

They will, of course, ignore the fact that he was (and is) mean, petty, vindictive, incompetent, indecisive and anti-American.

He is a disgusting embarassment. Carter started the whole process of former presidents shooting their mouths off.

Notice, it is only the DEMOCRAT ex-presidents who have done it. Even if it was only TWO of them...


25 posted on 05/19/2007 5:50:50 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: Valin

Oh how I wish he would drop dead of a massive heart attack this very day.


26 posted on 05/19/2007 5:50:57 AM PDT by montag813
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To: LantzALot

“...and was NOT President from 1981 to 1985, because he refused to stand up to nationalized terrorism from the Muslim world.”

Carter is the main reason we are in this war right now. If he would have been a president we could have avoided this.


27 posted on 05/19/2007 5:51:42 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Valin
Peanut Brain will be the only reason in my life to be
ashamed of my southern heritage.
His drunken dumb-ass brother would have made a better president.
28 posted on 05/19/2007 5:52:47 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: Valin

Carter used to be the worst President. He gave away the Panama
Canal. WHO GAVE AWAY AMERICA?


29 posted on 05/19/2007 5:52:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: driftdiver

He was never a Captain, thank God. A Lieutenant, and a snotty nosed one at that.


30 posted on 05/19/2007 5:53:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: driftdiver
Well I would imagine it was easy. He certainly wasnt going to take any risks. You might have to worry about him descending past crush depth though.

Given the level of competence he showed in office, I wouldn't be surprised if he issued orders to 'drive this thing onto land and park it.'

31 posted on 05/19/2007 5:54:22 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Valin

Is this a joke? If not can we impeach Carter?


32 posted on 05/19/2007 5:57:39 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Valin

Bigg Red Calls Jimmy Carter’s Presidency a Major Tragedy

Just STHU, you senile old buffoon! Why don’t you go over to Iran and offer yourself as a hostage to help settle the nuclear dispute?


33 posted on 05/19/2007 5:58:30 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Valin
"Abominable. Loyal. Blind. Apparently subservient."

Well, we have to give Jimma' credit for one thing.

He sticks to subjects that he knows well.

34 posted on 05/19/2007 5:59:01 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Valin

Carter has senile dementia and should not be allowed to speak in public. His brain is full of plaque and has shrunk to the size of a peanut, rendering his IQ now equal to his brother Billy’s(who’s beer company went bust).


35 posted on 05/19/2007 5:59:27 AM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Valin
After relentlessly attacking his country's President during time of war, Carter now turns his attention to Tony Blair, British Prime Minister.

Next week the former president will train his sights on another cause of war, upheaval, chaos and global warming, His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI.

Leni

36 posted on 05/19/2007 6:02:18 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: AlexW
His drunken dumb-ass brother would have made a better president.

Yes, at least he had the sense to find something to think for him and make him feel like he had some cajones.

37 posted on 05/19/2007 6:02:39 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Non-Sequitur

...going to deserve the same send-off that Ronald Reagan got.

&&&
He’s going to be granted it; he will definitely not deserve it.

I predict, BTW, that the ground where his body is put to rest will be soggy for decades to come due to the actions of many loyal American men who come to the graveyard to visit, unless he’s buried at Arlington. I saw something here on FR recently about an interview in which he talked about being buried in his hometown, which would be so much better, as patriots would not show disrespect while at Arlington.


38 posted on 05/19/2007 6:04:16 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I knew which former president they were talking about without even opening the thread.

*LOL* Same here. I don't even remember Carter's presidency (I was born 24 Nov 1976) and I hear more and more how that is a GOOD thing.

Sad to think that someday this little fart is going to deserve the same send-off that Ronald Reagan got.

Damn straight. Reagan was the first president I can remember so his passing was an incredibly sad time for me.

39 posted on 05/19/2007 6:05:30 AM PDT by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Valin

Billy should have been the brother that lived.

LLS


40 posted on 05/19/2007 6:05:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: driftdiver
Carter is the main reason we are in this war right now. If he would have been a president we could have avoided this.

He was too busy bumping our economy up to record levels of growth to worry about such unimportant global issues. /s

41 posted on 05/19/2007 6:05:44 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Cornpone
Jimmah never misses an opportunity to remind us how incompetent he is.
42 posted on 05/19/2007 6:07:01 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (I will respect illegal aliens “civil rights” when they respect the sovereignty of the US!)
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To: Valin
Jummuh is really jes' a Sweet Old Boy who found his true callin' late in life. The S.O.B. needs remindin' from time to time that he and humanity are better served when he's swingin' a hammer in Nicaragua.
43 posted on 05/19/2007 6:08:16 AM PDT by LantzALot
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To: LibLieSlayer

LOL


44 posted on 05/19/2007 6:08:25 AM PDT by doc maverick
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To: montag813
Please don’t act like the left or give the leftist any fodder.
45 posted on 05/19/2007 6:08:27 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: rlmorel

You’re right! I thought he ended up being a Capt. on a sub., But I was wrong. all I can say in my defence is it must of been all those drugs I used as a youth coming back to haunt me....that’s my story and I’m stickin with it. :-)

It still must of been a real pleasure to serve under him.


46 posted on 05/19/2007 6:09:07 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Valin
This POS, in addition to being the worst President, is now the worst ex-President. Not even BJ Clinton runs his mouth and makes a fool of himself to this extent.

And like others, I didn't even have to read the article to know it was Carter.

47 posted on 05/19/2007 6:10:22 AM PDT by Marathoner
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To: Valin

STFU you panty-waist peanut farmer. Blair is the anti-Carter.


48 posted on 05/19/2007 6:12:46 AM PDT by wolfcreek (DON'T MESS WITH A NATION IN NEED OF MEDICATION !)
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To: EGPWS

Yep, and that is why we got 21% interest rates while ol’ Jimmah was Prez....right? Carter was, and is, a fool with a mouth to match. I would love to have the chance to bust his teeth with my fist, and let him know how much I care about him. In short, he sucks big time, and that is the reason this P.O.S. is the EX-President. 4 years of this SOB was more than we could handle. Thank God for Ronald Reagan.


49 posted on 05/19/2007 6:14:34 AM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Sad to think that someday this little fart is going to deserve the same send-off that Ronald Reagan got.”

He won’t get the same send-off. I doubt there will be thousands upon thousands lined up for the viewing. Unless of course they permit spitting to show our proper respect.


50 posted on 05/19/2007 6:14:45 AM PDT by driftdiver
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