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Bloomberg seen threat to Democrats
The Washington Times ^ | May 16, 2007 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 05/16/2007 5:09:30 AM PDT by Zakeet

Republicans, while expressing some concern, generally think they have less to fear than Democrats from Michael R. Bloomberg if the popular New York City mayor mounts a third-party candidacy for president.

The Washington Times reported yesterday that friends of Mr. Bloomberg, whose personal fortune is $5.5 billion, has "set aside" and is prepared to spend an unprecedented $1 billion of his own money for a independent run for the White House.

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[Friends] say a Bloomberg candidacy would make it difficult for the Democratic nominee to win the electoral votes of New York, as well as of Connecticut and New Jersey. All are blue-state must-wins for the Democratic nominee, but not for the Republican standard-bearer, whoever he turns out to be.

"If Bloomberg and his people can pull together a serious run, it will allow some blue states to become very competitive for the GOP, such as New York, New Jersey and New Hampshire, maybe Colorado, 0hio -- and the Northeast in general," said New Hampshire-based Republican campaign strategist David Carney.

Former Virginia Democratic Party Chairman Paul Goldman said that to make a serious bid for the Oval Office, Mr. Bloomberg needs the nation's political press to "see him as the moderate independent flanked by a conservative Republican and a liberal Democrat."

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Most campaign professionals said that because Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Giuliani are liberal on social-policy issues, Mr. Bloomberg won't run if it becomes clear by early February that Mr. Giuliani will get the Republican nomination. But a Republican who is a close friend -- but not a presidential supporter of his -- who has discussed the issue with Mr. Bloomberg said Mr. Bloomberg has enough lingering animosity for Mr. Giuliani that a Giuliani Republican nomination victory would not deter a Bloomberg third-party run.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; 3rdparty; bloomberg

1 posted on 05/16/2007 5:09:32 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Huh? Bloomberg? Popular with whom? He’s not going to fly outside of NYC. He’s another Dem in GOP clothing.


2 posted on 05/16/2007 5:12:39 AM PDT by livius
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To: Zakeet

Does his crazy aunt live in the basement or the attic?


3 posted on 05/16/2007 5:14:36 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Christ's Kingdom on Earth is the answer. What is your question?)
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To: livius

He’s ONE BILLION cod hard ones popular. Many a bird is already trying to fly to his vulture roost.


4 posted on 05/16/2007 5:16:51 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Zakeet
I can't see why democRATS would see him as a threat - they agree on many issues.

Bloomie is a threat to conservatives and Americans in general.

5 posted on 05/16/2007 5:18:06 AM PDT by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: Zakeet

He’s a threat to Republicans too.....


6 posted on 05/16/2007 5:21:40 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: livius
Huh? Bloomberg? Popular with whom? He’s not going to fly outside of NYC. He’s another Dem in GOP clothing.

And Nancy Pelosi will never be the Speaker of the House. Oh, waitaminute . . .

Don't delude yourself. Bloomberg has the money to "fly" wherever he wants. Maybe (most likely) he won't be able to buy an election, but he can (and most likely "will") make himself a factor in it.

There are people that hate both parties and will look for an alternative. If the folks on the tops of the list crash and burn and "lesser" candidates somehow rise to the top (like Kerry did 4 years ago), he'll look even more attractive.

7 posted on 05/16/2007 5:26:01 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: Zakeet
Be careful, it all depends on how this guy runs his campaign. In '92 Republicans thought no conservatives would back a 50 cent gas tax/pro-abort Ross Perot, but stylisticaly he was conservative and non-nonsense.

Obviously, Bloomberg cannot run that kind of campaign, but as a bomb thrower, he can afford to get whatewver kind of eddect he wants.

Nightmare scenario, in a close electoral race, bloomberg wins NY, neither Thompson nor H. Clinton get a majority. Clinton gets pres in House vote, Republicans get VP in Senate with Cheney casting deciding vote for his successor.
8 posted on 05/16/2007 5:27:39 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: meyer
I can't see why democRATS would see him as a threat - they agree on many issues.

That is precisely why he is a threat to the Democrat Party. He can siphon off enough "middle of the roaders" (or what passes for them in NY, NJ, & CN) to give the GOP a chance to take those states. It would also force the Dems to spend money in a high cost area where they wouldn't ordinarily have to spend money.

This is analogous to Newt making an independent run.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

9 posted on 05/16/2007 5:30:32 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Zakeet

I’m not sure he helps us, but I can’t imagine he’ll hurt us.

UNLESS our nominee is Rudy Giuliani. Because Bloomberg is so much like Rudy, but not “pro-Iraq-war”, all those independents that are fiscal conservative and would have voted for Rudy would instead vote for Bloomberg.


10 posted on 05/16/2007 5:54:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Zakeet

Lets see if he keeps sending his undercover officers out of state to conduct illegal purchases of firearms. I’m wondering whether the threat of a felony charge will change his mind on these straw purchases, now that Bloomie has decided to run for President.


11 posted on 05/16/2007 5:58:26 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: bvw
He’s ONE BILLION cod hard ones popular.

I'm sure you're right, but could you translate, please? :-)

12 posted on 05/16/2007 6:00:21 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Zakeet

He’s to the left of all the Dems running. IOW, he’s the last person I’d vote for, well maybe other than Hillary!


13 posted on 05/16/2007 6:00:47 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (the Democrat(ic) caucus of corruption)
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To: NeoCaveman

It is hysterical that THREE New York politicians are now going to be running, all in different parties, even though their positions on most issues are identical.


14 posted on 05/16/2007 6:06:41 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: bvw
He’s ONE BILLION cod hard ones popular.

So he's like viagra to the fish community?

15 posted on 05/16/2007 6:24:08 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Zakeet

Another good news edit for today:

The Washington Times reported yesterday that gay friends of the decidely effeminate, metrosexual, baby killer advocate, Mr. Bloomberg, whose criminal earnings top 5.5 billion, has “set aside” and is prepared to spend an unprecedented $1 billion of his own money for a independent run for the contest to be Mullah Omar’s favorite assclown. [Snip] [Friends] say a Bloomberg candidacy would make it difficult for the Trotskyite nominee to steal the electoral votes of New York, as well as of Connecticut and New York. Bloomberg, caught by reporters at a trendy combination hair and pedicure salon/tattoo parlor chuckled sagely “no woman is ever gonna be prettier than me, I use a thigh master three times a week girl—and don’t even try to beat my stud earrings”.


16 posted on 05/16/2007 8:20:36 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: livius

Bloomberg is a non-factor, no matter what he thinks.


17 posted on 05/16/2007 10:02:33 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys

Bloomberg IS a factor. Besides we should all be wanting him to run. It’s the Dems he will hurt...not us.


18 posted on 05/16/2007 10:09:13 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (New York politicians do not think or believe like Americans. ...Thompson 2008)
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To: bvw; Tanniker Smith

Well, after he changed parties, he is widely thought to have bought the mayoralty or at any rate the nomination. So I guess the Presidency is probably not out of reach. Well, yes it is; he may get the nomination, but he’s not going to get the Presidency.

He won in New York because the candidate running against him was truly awful and unpopular, New Yorkers are liberal control freaks too, and because people wanted to give the GOP another shot, since things had improved with respect to crime and taxes. But I don’t think he’d have the same luck nationally.

Speaking of the opposition, I bet Gore is going to be the Dem candidate.


19 posted on 05/16/2007 11:55:00 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
He won in New York because the candidate running against him was truly awful and unpopular,

True, but if not for 9/11, and to some extent Rudy, a Democrat would've won. Bloomberg shouldn't have had a shot. Rudy, for those few weeks before the election, showed the city what a mayor should be. That killed it for the Dems, really.

It shouldn't be forgotten that 9/11 was the day of the primary, which was cancelled and rescheduled.

As for Gore, I agree. It'll be him or Edwards -- some white guy from the South.

20 posted on 05/16/2007 12:31:59 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Yes, I agree. 9/11 and Rudy’s image on that occasion has to be factored into it; also, Bush responded well, and suddenly it became OK to vote GOP. Unless something awful happens between now and the next election, of course, the same situation won’t prevail. So I don’t think Bloomberg has much chance, because if people want a Dem they’ll go out and vote for a real one.

I am surprised by how popular Gore is with the Dems around here, btw. I don’t know who his VP will be, but I doubt it would be either Hillary or Osama. Obama, I mean.


21 posted on 05/16/2007 1:16:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Gore Lieberman didn’t work (and couldn’t work now), so he’d go with what worked in 1992. Taking a like-minded individual from a nearby state. He’ll pick Edwards.


22 posted on 05/16/2007 3:09:28 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: cbkaty

moreso I think. Hagel and Bloomberg would definately hurt the Republicans unfortunately.


23 posted on 05/16/2007 3:10:54 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: AFPhys

I thought that too, when he ran for mayor.


24 posted on 05/16/2007 4:39:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Tanniker Smith

I know at least one person who got to work too late that day, for the sake of voting early.


25 posted on 05/16/2007 4:41:14 PM PDT by bvw
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