Posted on 05/15/2007 3:11:17 PM PDT by Islander7
Warm temperatures melted an area of western Antarctica that adds up to the size of California in January 2005, scientists report. {That is the middle of summer in the southern hemisphere.}
Satellite data collected by the scientists between July 1999 and July 2005 showed clear signs that melting had occurred in multiple distinct regions, including far inland and at high latitudes and elevations, where melt had been considered unlikely.
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Evidence of melting was found up to 560 miles inland from the open ocean, farther than 85 degrees south (about 310 miles from the South Pole) and higher than 6,600 feet above sea level.
(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...
If you go to the article and see the picture of the yellow and red “melting” sections it makes me wonder what the rest of that giant mass was doing.
Was is stagnant or was there more freezing, snowpack, whatever? It wasn’t melting we know because it all would have been yellow and red and high-lighted for us.
Thank God.
Conveniently ignored is the fact that Antarctica has roughly SIX MILLION CUBIC MILES OF ICE.
It’s too bad we can’t get the liberals in California to melt off the end of the country.
...the Alps and other mountain ranges have experienced a gradual growth spurt over the past century or so thanks to the melting of the glaciers atop them. For thousands of years, the weight of these glaciers has pushed against the Earth's surface, causing it to depress. As the glaciers melt, this weight is lifting, and the surface slowly is springing back. Because global warming speeds up the melting of these glaciers, the mountains are rebounding faster.
Neat theory, but how about them plate techtonics.
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so, does the first guy that climbed the Matterhorn get an asterisk by his name cause it wasn’t as tall then as it is now ?
This is the part that gets me. It’s another article presenting evidence of warming, which very few people doubt exists.
What the article is not is a presentation of how man made emmissions is causing it. This is a very different assertion; but when left unsaid, the general public assumes all warming discussion is about man made triggers. On it goes.
C2K
Now, for any ice to melt there has to be a 62 degree increase in temperature for a hell of a lot longer than a year. It would seem to me that any melting temperature would probably have to be even higher to overcome any ambient air temperature (without wind).
If there is wind, an even higher temp would have to be reached and maintained for any signifigant melting to occur.
I'm no climatologist, and I don't even play one on the internet ... but I did pay attention in 6th grade science class.
From the article;
"Water from the melted snow can penetrate cracks and the ice, lubricating the continent's ice sheets, sending them toward the ocean faster and raising sea levels, the scientists said."
I thought the ice caps were floaters ... and if so, I had to wait until the 7th grade for the water displacement experiment.
Calling all mathameticians !
The ARCTIC is cap is a floater. The ANTARCTIC icecap and the Greenland ice cap are up on land.
Who says global warming exists in the first place? Government funded "scientists" whose funding would dry up if there were no global warming say it exists.
Antarctica has been cooling so how could there be global warming? Don't the liberals/Socialists say that among the first consequences of global warming is the melting polar ice caps that will drown coastal cities? Antarctica Contradicts The Global Warming Theory:
CHURCHVILLE, VA - In direct contradiction to the global warming theory, a forthcoming study in the prestigious journal Nature says the Antarctic has been cooling for the past 30 years. According to the new Nature paper on Antarctic cooling, “Climate models generally predict amplified warming in the Polar Regions, as observed in Antarctica’s peninsula region over the second half of the 20th century.” However, the researchers found “Antarctic meteorological data demonstrates a new cooling on the Antarctic continent between 1966 and 2000, particularly during summer and autumn.” The researchers say that the McMurdo Dry Valleys, for example, have cooled about 0.7 degrees Celsius per decade during this period. The authors conclude, “Continental Antarctic cooling, especially the seasonality of cooling, poses challenges to models of climate and ecosystem change.” Another new study, in the journal Science, says the Antarctic ice sheet is thickening, rather than thinning as had been previously claimed. Some researcher had even predicted that the Antarctic ice sheet would be completely gone in 4000 years, triggering a major sea level rise.
Thank you. I’ve been saying this for years. WTF difference is one degree going to make at the poles, if it’s already minus 30. Logically it would take a global temp increase of about a hundred degrees to melt them completely. Amazing how there have never been glaciers that cracked and broke off in all of the earth’s history.
I agree ... I was just trying to apply some (what I thought was .. ) one plus one equals two logic to the sicheeation.
Any hope that a California-sized chuck of water will engulf California?
Not true. Wind will evaporate ice even if that wind is very cold. The air merely has to have low humidity.
I know some guys who dug a C-130 out of the ice in Antarctica. They used things much like leaf blowers as excavating equipment.
I asked our resident liberal here at work about this. I asked, "If there were glaciers 14,000 years ago and they have been receding ever since how did man cause this?"
He got up without a word and left the room.
Nope. Antarctica is a regular run-of-the-mill continent with ice piled on top.
Hey, leave us alone! Now I wouldn’t mind San Francisco quaking off into the bay... ;)
Hold the presses !
It was the middle of summer, and some ice melted ?
Shocking, I tell you ! Just shocking !
There needs to be a book which one could consult so that we could gain that affect with any subject. Your entry should be featured prominently.
And the sea level has risen how much? a few millimeters - ahhhhhh, ok, I got it..........
Such imbeciles.
I got the same effect with my wife's niece. We were arguing about global warming but a different aspect (I don't remember what) of it and she basically did the same thing when I presented her with a bit of logic.
It ain't summer in Antarctica.
Please flush twice! ;-)
You can also ask him why the Great Plains are flat and watch his head explode.
Did Al Gore post that???
Why are all these so-called scientists completely ignoring the fact that our celestial neighbors (Mars for example) are also experiencing “global warming”? Could it be because any other cause beyond man doesn’t fit nor serve their ulterior motives?
Then I would have liberal detritus, flotsam and jetsam all over me. Not a result I would find enjoyable.
Carries a little different emotional content than "The sun rises in the east every morning", doesn't it?
You weren't paying attention in 6th grade science class. It's called "sublimation". Sun shining on ice can convert from solid ice to water vapor. A little wind carries it off so the small vapor pressure keeps converting from solid to vapor. It is common to observe snow/ice with local melting due to dark soil or plants collecting sunlight even when the ambient temperature is well below freezing.
Still, the premise that global warming is the consequence of human activity is BS. There are no humans on other planets in our solar systen, yet they are warming as well. There is a common astro-physical phenomenon driving the change. It isn't human activity.
Yes, I believe January is summer in Antartica. Southern hemisphere, don’t you know ?
“... January 2005, scientists report. {That is the middle of summer in the southern hemisphere.}”
Nice link! Many thanks!!!
Wouldn't the wind carrying the water vapor tend to refreeze and drop it as snow? Especially over a cold surface?
Keep notes, my friend. You may be compiling a best seller.
You're welcome.
Shame they can't put LOGIC in a can where you could just spray it and rid the immediate area of all leftists.
Of course leaving out the logic and just filling the can with chlorofluorocarbons might work. Worth a try anyway.
I like warm better than cold, if the seas rise I dont have to drive as far to the beach, what is the problem?
Oooops! I am soooo chagrined.
Dateline: 2007
ICE MELTS OUTSIDE DURING THE SUMMER!
What about this one? If we are creating more CO2 and trees love CO2 and need it to survive aren't we actually creting more trees and making it easier for them to thrive so that they can absorb the CO2?
No net lose of water to rise the oceans levels.
No. It depends where it originally melted and subsequently refrozen.
How do they figer western Antarctica??? Like, you keep walking raund and round in the westerly direction till you drop and freeeeeze???
Like, the thing is sitting on the Pole! More lies from environutzies! Yo, Nutzies, it's the Sun stupid with it's 11 year menstrual sunspot cycle.
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