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Hubble reveals ghostly ring of dark matter
MSNBC ^ | May 15, 2007

Posted on 05/15/2007 12:13:56 PM PDT by Hadean

Astronomers have discovered an enormous, ghostly ring of dark matter 5 billion light years away — the most blatant evidence to date for the existence of a mysterious substance hidden throughout the universe.

Dark matter makes up a vast majority of gravity-exerting mass in the universe, while only about 10 percent is matter we can see and touch. If dark matter didn't exist, scientists say, galaxies like the Milky Way would have already flown apart from a severe lack of gravitational "glue."

Researchers pointed the aging but powerful Hubble Space Telescope toward a cluster of galaxies known as cluster ZwCl0024+1652. At first glance, the then-unknown ring looked like a ripple in a pond over the twinkling galactic cluster. Story continues below ↓advertisement

"I was annoyed when I saw the ring because I thought it was an artifact," said M. James Jee of Johns Hopkins University.

But it wasn't a glitch.

The more Jee and others tried to remove the ring by tweaking the data, the more the ring-like anomaly stuck out like sore thumb. "It took more than a year to convince myself that the ring was real," Jee said. "I've looked at a number of clusters and I haven't seen anything like this."

Because so much dark matter resides in the ring, astronomers said, it bends the light around it to create the ripple effect — dark matter's calling card. The findings were announced at a NASA press conference today.

The ring, 2.6-million light-years wide, formed when two huge clusters of galaxies slammed together in a head-on collision roughly 1 to 2 billion years ago, puffing the mysterious matter outward, the astronomers figure. If the galactic hit-and-run had occurred outside of Earth's line-of-sight, the result might look more like an oval.

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1 posted on 05/15/2007 12:14:01 PM PDT by Hadean
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To: Hadean

Is it surrounding Michael Moore? :)


2 posted on 05/15/2007 12:16:10 PM PDT by RexBeach (Americans never quit. -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Hadean

One theory is that dark matter is computonium, that is the end result of advanced intelligence converting local matter and energy into computing AIs.


3 posted on 05/15/2007 12:16:41 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Hadean

Lets send Rosie O’Donell to investigate this matter personally.


4 posted on 05/15/2007 12:17:19 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Hadean

Look at all those galaxies, we are not alone.


5 posted on 05/15/2007 12:18:00 PM PDT by Tinman93
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To: Hadean

“It took more than a year to convince myself that the ring was real,”

What a job. I’d like to get paid to stare at something for a year. Then again, no thanks.


6 posted on 05/15/2007 12:20:58 PM PDT by yobid
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To: Hadean

When you’re in space looking at the earth and moon, you only see “dark space” since, there is nothing there. Are we simply looking at the space between objects and getting the wrong inference?


7 posted on 05/15/2007 12:21:18 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Hadean
the ripple effect — dark matter's calling card.

Red or white?

8 posted on 05/15/2007 12:22:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Hadean

It’s Al Gores fault.


9 posted on 05/15/2007 12:22:46 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Hadean

Is that a ring of dark matter around Uranus?


10 posted on 05/15/2007 12:22:50 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: Tinman93

Might as well be, the nearest hot galactic chicks are thousands of light years away, although if you visit my website you can virtually meet thousands of galactobabes
who just would love to meet YOU.

Etc.etc.etc


11 posted on 05/15/2007 12:23:40 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Hadean
The more Jee and others tried to remove the ring by tweaking the data . . .

Why would they want to do that, i.e. "remove the ring?" Is this an explicit admission of tweaking data to support preconceived notions?

12 posted on 05/15/2007 12:23:48 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Hadean

'Scuse me!

13 posted on 05/15/2007 12:24:09 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: Hadean

saveit bump


14 posted on 05/15/2007 12:24:15 PM PDT by Edgerunner (keep your powder dry...)
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To: Hadean

Did they try cleaning the lens on the Hubble to be sure?


15 posted on 05/15/2007 12:24:31 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Go Rudy Go! (And take McCain with you!))
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To: edcoil
When you’re in space looking at the earth and moon, you only see “dark space” since, there is nothing there. Are we simply looking at the space between objects and getting the wrong inference?

The space between earth and moon doesn't distort their images or obscure them. Dark matter is detected by the fact that it distorts objects or bends the light from them in some way.

16 posted on 05/15/2007 12:25:19 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: Tinman93
Look at all those galaxies, we are not alone.

But if there is nothing more to learn of space travel, we are alone. At least effectively.

17 posted on 05/15/2007 12:25:23 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: Hadean

That is impressive stuff. I can’t wait for the James Webb telescope to really kick exploration up some notches.


18 posted on 05/15/2007 12:27:34 PM PDT by Tolsti
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To: SlowBoat407

How do we know what we look like from 5 billion light years away?


19 posted on 05/15/2007 12:28:23 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

“Are we simply looking at the space between objects and getting the wrong inference?”

Well, it’s space that is bending light, indicating gravity, so I would say, “no.” There is certainly SOMETHING there.


20 posted on 05/15/2007 12:28:24 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: RightWhale

Mogen David


21 posted on 05/15/2007 12:28:51 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: VRWCmember

rofl


22 posted on 05/15/2007 12:30:00 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Jack Black

Do giant wild random guesses technically qualify as a “theory?”


23 posted on 05/15/2007 12:30:01 PM PDT by TexasAg1996
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To: Hadean

Looks to me like a ghostly ring of no matter.


24 posted on 05/15/2007 12:30:47 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Strength and honor.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


25 posted on 05/15/2007 12:30:56 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: SlowBoat407

Unless it was something else that bent the light.


26 posted on 05/15/2007 12:31:38 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Tinman93

Klaatu barada nikto.


27 posted on 05/15/2007 12:31:49 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Tinman93; tx_eggman
Look at all those galaxies, we are not alone.

John 10:16:
And I have other sheep [beside these] that are not of this fold. I must bring and impel those also; and they will listen to My voice and heed My call, and so there will be [they will become] one flock under one Shepherd.
28 posted on 05/15/2007 12:32:28 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: edcoil

Considering the age of the earth and the speed of light, this is probably what we look like from 5 billion light years away.

29 posted on 05/15/2007 12:33:34 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: Buckhead
Unless it was something else that bent the light.

Now you're getting into a whole new area of speculation, eh? Gravity waves, maybe?

30 posted on 05/15/2007 12:34:41 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Applewood smoked bacon is the new chipotle.)
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To: Hadean

I hereby name this “Rosie’s Sphincter”.


31 posted on 05/15/2007 12:35:55 PM PDT by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

—Is this an explicit admission of tweaking data to support preconceived notions?—

Very similar to the Globull Warming scam.


32 posted on 05/15/2007 12:36:22 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: SpinnerWebb

There’s a great sci-fi story about aliens rushing to earth because they knew, from their scriptures, that the beings there were created in God’s image, had personal visit from the Son, etc.

They were sorely disappointed when they got here. Contemplated anniliation, thinking perhaps humans were invaders . . . then just going home deeply saddened with decision to lie about what they found.


33 posted on 05/15/2007 12:36:44 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: SlowBoat407
I've seen this photo. I guess, it is all relative then.

Sounds familiar

34 posted on 05/15/2007 12:37:18 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Tinman93
Look at all those galaxies, we are not alone.

We will be if the telemarketers get to them first.

35 posted on 05/15/2007 12:37:19 PM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Whatever is begun in anger, ends in shame." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Hadean

The Hubble belongs in a museum at the end of its life, not burned up in the atmosphere.


36 posted on 05/15/2007 12:40:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Hadean

Looks like it should be called the Bung Nebula

37 posted on 05/15/2007 12:41:24 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Hadean

Spice.


38 posted on 05/15/2007 12:42:17 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

What was the title and author?


39 posted on 05/15/2007 12:42:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: Hadean

Ladies and gentlemen, I’ve decided to make the announcement of my recent discovery here on FR in regard to dark matter. It’s rather quite shocking once you think about it and I’ve thought about this long and hard but its implications are, well, earth altering. While it is true that man has contemplated trave


40 posted on 05/15/2007 12:43:04 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tolsti

I thought that was an upgrade of this one to be called the Webb-Hubble Space Telescope.


41 posted on 05/15/2007 12:43:07 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: tet68
if you visit my website you can virtually meet thousands of galactobabes who just would love to meet YOU.

Yes, but given the speed at which light (and other electronic transmissions) travel, when you see your "galactobabe's" photo on MySpace, you're only seeing them as they looked 200 million years ago!

42 posted on 05/15/2007 12:44:00 PM PDT by Lou L
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To: Badeye

The Klingons would retaliate.


43 posted on 05/15/2007 12:46:14 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: edcoil
"How do we know what we look like from 5 billion light years away?"

From 5 billion light years away, we look like a gleam in God's eye.

44 posted on 05/15/2007 12:46:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Hadean

thanks, bfl


45 posted on 05/15/2007 12:50:31 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Centurion2000

No idea.


46 posted on 05/15/2007 12:51:11 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Hadean

I wish I could remember who has the Space PING list, because this is a good one.


47 posted on 05/15/2007 12:57:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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To: Hadean
The more Jee and others tried to remove the ring by tweaking the data, the more the ring-like anomaly stuck out like sore thumb.

You try scrubbing and soaking, but you still get


48 posted on 05/15/2007 12:59:14 PM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: Buckhead
Unless it was something else that bent the light.

A Kinko's fax machine? :-)

49 posted on 05/15/2007 1:00:47 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Sorry about that, got knocked off. A sketch of the luminous part of a galaxy surrounded by a much bigger halo of invisible dark matter. We detect the presence of the dark matter by its gravitational effect on stars and gas within galaxies and on other galaxies. But because it emits little or no light, we cannot see it directly. We do not yet know what the dark matter actually consists of. I believe Dark Matter, once understood, will be the key to universe travel. As we all know, our current capabilities of space ship propellent will not allow us to properly reach light year goals, or to go to possible inhabitable planets. All energy sources are developed on earth and I think that is a mistake. This idea came to me in a dream. What is one area that we have not looked for alternative energy sources get us where we would like to go? Space. Dark matter is dark energy, and powerful energy that keeps solar systems together. I propose we embark on understanding this capability, develop a multi, human-generational space team that will perpetuate itself in space as it travels to other worlds and possibilities. They would have to rear their replacement platoon to take over as they aged. The eggs would be in hibernation until rearing would occur. This would probably begin around sixty years old. Their life on the ship would be their world. Just like the monarch butterfly that flies from the north to the south. It is not just one butterfly that does it, but multiple generations going down, and coming back. comments? (if anyone steals my idea for a book, movie, t.v., I'll sue you, because it is already in the can.
50 posted on 05/15/2007 1:02:28 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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