Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

US conservatives block cancer vaccine for girls [Public health experts also divided]
newscientist.com ^ | 5-14-2007 | Jim Giles

Posted on 05/14/2007 9:15:48 AM PDT by bedolido

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-93 next last
To: Caesar Soze

“Wiping out debilitating, expensive diseases is a Good Thing.”

Regardless of the benefit-cost ratio? One problem with mandating this vaccine is that cervical cancer is rare, and early detection of cell abnormalities through annual pap smear exams has dramatically reduced its incidence and morbidity. At $360 per vaccination, the marginal benefit-cost ratio is likely to be extremely low.


41 posted on 05/14/2007 10:50:51 AM PDT by riverdawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
What a pantload. The New England Journal recently published an article examining the data critically. Turns out Gardasil isn't effective against most HPV viruses and it's effectiveness is low against those it does.

It's high cost makes it's widespread use questionable. So, they went to a full court press publicity campaign aided by gullible lefties to try to get the states to pay for it and mandate it, which would be a huge profit at the public expense. People are catching on, but not the maroon who wrote this article.

42 posted on 05/14/2007 10:54:39 AM PDT by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gondramB
“The economic return on vaccines tends to be quite high.”

It depends on the cost of the vaccination, potential side effects, and the disease against which you are vaccinating. For example, it doesn’t make sense to mandate that everyone in the U.S. receive an anti-malarial vaccine or even a hep-B vaccine. On the other hand, if I were a clinical health professional, I would want (and, in most settings, would be required to) get a hep-B vaccination.

43 posted on 05/14/2007 10:57:45 AM PDT by riverdawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
If you want, you can still have your daughters vaccinated for this. They are pushing for a law so that those who can afford the cost of the vaccine can also be forced to help pay through tax dollars for the cost of those who cannot afford to pay.

The cost to taxpayers will be billions nationwide. And the vaccine covers only 4 out of almost 30 strains of the virus. My concern is that this drug has not been tested long-term and I don't want our children to be used as guinea pigs for the drug companies.

44 posted on 05/14/2007 10:59:47 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: riverdawg

>>It depends on the cost of the vaccination, potential side effects, and the disease against which you are vaccinating. For example, it doesn’t make sense to mandate that everyone in the U.S. receive an anti-malarial vaccine or even a hep-B vaccine. On the other hand, if I were a clinical health professional, I would want (and, in most settings, would be required to) get a hep-B vaccination.<<

Those are all good points. What the incidence in women of the virus that causes cervical cancer? I think its pretty high.


45 posted on 05/14/2007 11:01:37 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: bedolido

why do we need to mandate a vacine for a secual behavior disease? Could it be the lobbyists for the drug maker are pushing this to deal with the fact the pap test is not profitable enough?


46 posted on 05/14/2007 11:03:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JerriBlank
And what about instances of rape?

The same argument could be used for compulsory birth control for all 11+-year-old girls.

47 posted on 05/14/2007 11:05:12 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Dianna
I am more concerned about whether the vaccine is safe and if it has been tested enough to know that it is, in fact, safe.

Yes, I don't trust this vaccine yet. I also resent the fact that the company tried aggressively to mandate it. It should be a choice, not a mandate.

48 posted on 05/14/2007 11:06:30 AM PDT by Leonora
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: SC DOC
“Human Papilloma Virus is associated with ... [long list of very rare cancers]”

One problem with the HPV vaccine is that HPV is ubiquitous in the adult population, but only a few strains are associated with a small number of cancers each year. Cervical cancer is much rarer now than 30 years ago because of the success of early detection of cell abnormalities through annual pelvic exams.

49 posted on 05/14/2007 11:07:29 AM PDT by riverdawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Sloth

I didn’t say there should be compulsory vaccines. I was only addressing the idea that this is just a license for immorality. It isn’t.

It’s an attempt to prevent a certain type of cancer. I’m all for it, if the tests show benefit.


50 posted on 05/14/2007 11:16:23 AM PDT by JerriBlank
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: bedolido

I absolutely don’t agree with requiring anybody to get this vaccine, but it’s just idiocy to argue against it on the basis it will cause rampant promiscuity.


51 posted on 05/14/2007 11:20:05 AM PDT by gracesdad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

Where is Nancy Pelosi on camera showing her daughter getting the vaccine? Where is the picture of pelosi getting the vaccine to show it is safe?

Why are these public officials so insistant that we experiment for them for a voluntary disease?


52 posted on 05/14/2007 11:23:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
Rather than mandating a vaccine, how about teaching our girls the importance of routine pap smears? It would be a hell of a lot cheaper and just as effective, not to mention the benefit of the breast exam that is given at that time and everything else the physical entails. From the CDC:

A Pap test can detect pre-cancerous and cancerous cells on the cervix. Regular Pap testing and careful medical follow-up, with treatment if necessary, can help ensure that pre-cancerous changes in the cervix caused by HPV infection do not develop into life threatening cervical cancer. The Pap test used in U.S. cervical cancer screening programs is responsible for greatly reducing deaths from cervical cancer. For 2004, the American Cancer Society estimates that about 10,520 women will develop invasive cervical cancer and about 3,900 women will die from this disease. Most women who develop invasive cervical cancer have not had regular cervical cancer screening.

53 posted on 05/14/2007 11:26:37 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (My kids live in a gated community...........the living room.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bedolido
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4371384.stm

Circumcision 'reduces HIV risk'

Next?

54 posted on 05/14/2007 11:35:44 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet (Meanwhile, there has been no progress on fixing Social Security!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mamzelle
The STD that causes cervical cancer is highly prevalent in all adults

I find that total rot! Do you have any, valid scientific references for that statement.

55 posted on 05/14/2007 11:45:00 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
What a strange response. This particular vaccine encourages promiscuous sexual behavior no more than do the condoms and vaginal suppositories on display in grocery stores nationwide.

Thats utter crap. More young girls will feel "safer" to engage in promiscuous sexual behavior with this shot. If you say no, you've absolutely, completely ignorant of human nature.

56 posted on 05/14/2007 11:47:48 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: ktscarlett66
And he didn’t have a high number of partners either, for a guy who was in the service and overseas before we met.

I know, I know, he told you you were the only one and he never hit on any of those overseas pleasure girls...

57 posted on 05/14/2007 11:49:54 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Caesar Soze

The government has NO RIGHT to mandate a vaccine for a disease that can’t be passed by sitting next to someone in class.


58 posted on 05/14/2007 12:12:12 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: TexasPatriot8
It’s not a cancer vaccine, it’s a slut vaccine. This is telling girls as young as 10, 11, 12, 13 that they can get laid without fear of getting this sexually transmitted form of cancer. It’s a vaccine that, like abortion, is a way of negating personal responsibility.

Well then, I guess in your reality we need to hire some Morals Police (like the ones Iran and Saudi Arabia use so effectively) to make sure those little sluts don't flaunt their vaccinated status in front of poor, defenseless men who will otherwise have no choice but to take advantage of them.

59 posted on 05/14/2007 12:14:23 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Caesar Soze

Right. And of course, they will educate parents about their right NOT to vaccinate. I am sure they will do just as well as the school district in California that informed me that I had no choice but to vaccinate my child. Of course, that was a TOTAL lie, since California has not only medical and religious exemptions, but philosophical as well.

Since I was already an informed parent, I ripped them up over this issue.


60 posted on 05/14/2007 12:16:03 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-93 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson