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Posted on 05/10/2007 5:05:12 AM PDT by Gopher Broke

Starbucks markets more 'anti-God' coffee cups

Company welcomes national dialogue despite boycott threat by some patrons

Posted: May 9, 2007

By Joe Kovacs

© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

Coffeehouse giant Starbucks is standing by its campaign to put thought-provoking messages on its coffee cups despite a national uproar and threat of boycott over a message some felt was "anti-God."

Controversy erupted this week after a customer became steamed reading a quote that stated:

"Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside ourselves for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure."

The quote was written by Bill Schell, a Starbucks customer from London, Ontario, Canada, and was included as part of Starbucks' "The Way I See It" campaign to collect different viewpoints and spur discussion.

A WND story posted Sunday afternoon publicizing the cup became a hot topic on national radio shows this week including Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham.

One reader, Ken Peck of Lakeland, Fla., has since purchased a coffee with another message he felt was a slam against his Christian faith, and snapped a photograph of it.

Ken Peck of Lakeland, Fla., was not thrilled when he purchased this Starbucks cup with a message he felt was anti-Christian

The message reads:

Heaven is totally overrated. It seems boring. Clouds, listening to people play the harp. It should be somewhere you can’t wait to go, like a luxury hotel. Maybe blue skies and soft music were enough to keep people in line in the 17th century, but Heaven has to step it up a bit. They're basically getting by because they only have to be better than Hell. -- Joel Stein, columnist for the Los Angeles Times.

"There's absolutely no reason to put that out on a cup," Peck told WND. "From a marketing standpoint, it blows me away. I don't put a picture of Christ of my business card."

Peck says the issue has energized him to push for a boycott of Starbucks in favor of other local coffeehouses in Polk Co., Fla.

"Everyone I've shown the cup to has been flabbergasted, whether they have a faith in Christ or not," he said.

Seattle-based Starbucks, meanwhile, is making no apologies about the God-related messages, nor its campaign.

"We are committed to this program," Starbucks communications manager Tricia Moriarty told WND, noting that quotes about matters of faith make up only a small fraction of the printed quips.

"We cover topics such as theater, film, the environment, food and sports," Moriarty said. "The cups are not pro- or anti-religion per se."

When asked if there were any scenario that would prompt the company to remove a certain cup from its campaign, she said she could not comment on a hypothetical situation, saying only, "Certainly, we have no plans to remove any of them."


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1 posted on 05/10/2007 5:05:13 AM PDT by Gopher Broke
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To: Gopher Broke

Tell Starbucks what you think of their anti-God coffee cups....

http://www.starbucks.com/customer/contact_forms.asp?nav=3f


2 posted on 05/10/2007 5:06:39 AM PDT by Gopher Broke (I would rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Teddy Kennedy)
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To: Gopher Broke

Over priced, over-rated, and now anti-God. Guess they just don’t need my business...ever.


3 posted on 05/10/2007 5:09:01 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: Gopher Broke

I’d like to see them dole out a few thought provoking, anti-Muslim cups and see how well that goes over.


4 posted on 05/10/2007 5:09:46 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Gopher Broke

Whether or not “customers” are suggesting the slogans, it is Starbucks that makes the decision to print them. I’m guessing that anything that would offend leftist sensibilities would be immediately screened and this is a way for the corporation to get a particular message out without appearing to directly take the heat for it.

Well, another company to throw on the boycott list, in addition to Ford. Be careful where you spend your money, as it is corporate dollars that fund much of the leftist activity in America today.


5 posted on 05/10/2007 5:10:19 AM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Gopher Broke

I do my part — I just don’t patronize Starbucks. I once had a muffin there that gave me indigestion for a week. Plus Starbucks is overpriced. Why should I pay $5.00 or whatever for coffee I can make better at home or at work for cheap?


6 posted on 05/10/2007 5:11:08 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Gopher Broke

Happy to report that I’ve been to Starbucks maybe once in the last two years. The only thing I’ve *ever* ordered from Starbucks is a “coffee of the day, large” (not “vente”, which I refuse to say).

Their coffee is good, but not $3.50 good.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 5:11:27 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Muzzle_em

Uh, they would print pro moslem terrorist cups for sure. Modern day atheists are part of the leftist movement and they are just as angry, aggressive and destructive.


8 posted on 05/10/2007 5:12:52 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Gopher Broke

Overly strong bad tasting overly priced coffee and anti GOD anti Christian to boot.
Yeah, I’m gonna give starbucks my money, NOT.


9 posted on 05/10/2007 5:15:41 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Gopher Broke

Like the former Soviet Union, France has gone too far into socialism to easily recover.

France is still the major supplier to Iran and the country is so saturated with Muslims that its previous culture has become overwhelmed.


10 posted on 05/10/2007 5:16:57 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Gopher Broke

If they are such fans of free expression, where are the Christian messages and thoughts? Surely Starbuck’s has some Christian customers who enjoy the taste of coffee and cigarette butts, which is why I don’t drink their stuff.


11 posted on 05/10/2007 5:17:10 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Gopher Broke

I go to church every Sunday for religious teaching. I go to Starbuck for coffee. Big difference.


12 posted on 05/10/2007 5:17:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Gopher Broke

I wonder if they would print sa cup that says “If Global warming is real how come I froze my ass off this winter?” I bet the answer would be no.


13 posted on 05/10/2007 5:18:19 AM PDT by Dmitry Vukicevich (This terrorist attack brought to you by Bill Clintoon.)
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To: angkor

“The only thing I’ve *ever* ordered from Starbucks is a “coffee of the day, large” (not “vente”, which I refuse to say).”

I rarely buy coffee from Starbucks but whenever I step up to order one I always openly mock the names they give to their cup sizes. I’ll say “vente” after a good mock and laugh at the name.


14 posted on 05/10/2007 5:20:17 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: Gopher Broke
Heaven is totally overrated. It seems boring. Clouds, listening to people play the harp. It should be somewhere you can’t wait to go, like a luxury hotel. Maybe blue skies and soft music were enough to keep people in line in the 17th century, but Heaven has to step it up a bit. They're basically getting by because they only have to be better than Hell. -- Joel Stein, columnist for the Los Angeles Times.

I don't see this as an anti-Christian statement -- it just shows how incredibly stupid Stein is, and Biblically ignorant to boot. The "boring" image he paints of heaven is what less-than creative types conjure up. Heaven is, without a doubt, more than anyone human can imagine.

Just MHO, but LA Times readers should be wary of such a stupid person writing for that rag. Now that I think of it though, regular LA Times readers can't be all that bright to begin with.

15 posted on 05/10/2007 5:21:40 AM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: Gopher Broke

I think Starbucks coffee is bitter and cheap tasting, their stores are cold feeling, and they are always playing awful music.


16 posted on 05/10/2007 5:21:52 AM PDT by ca centered
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To: Gopher Broke

I think Starbucks coffee is bitter and cheap tasting, their stores are cold feeling, and they are always playing awful music.


17 posted on 05/10/2007 5:21:52 AM PDT by ca centered
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To: Gopher Broke

I’m INSULTED! Let’s riot and burn Cars!..........


18 posted on 05/10/2007 5:21:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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To: Gopher Broke
I go to Starbucks once a week or so in the mornings.

Here's the cup I got today:

Many people search blindly for the “meaning of life.” What they don’t seem to understand is that life does not have meaning through mere existence or acquisition or fun. The meaning of life is inherent in the connections we make to others through honor and obligation.

-- Dr. Laura Schlessinger

19 posted on 05/10/2007 5:23:42 AM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: R.W.Ratikal

You are one wierd dude. I like that.


20 posted on 05/10/2007 5:23:50 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Caesar - he is a barbarian and considers that the customs of his tribe are the laws of Nature")
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To: ca centered

Last year I had to go into rehab to get off their Strawberry Cream Fraps.


21 posted on 05/10/2007 5:24:02 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Whosoever so loveth me loveth my hound." St. Thomas More)
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To: Gopher Broke

Say it with me, “Caribou Coffee”.


22 posted on 05/10/2007 5:25:36 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Self-defense works)
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To: Gopher Broke

Starbucks is totally overrated. It seems boring. Burnt coffee, listening to people as they Google porn from their laptops. It should be somewhere you can’t wait to go, like a comfy British pub. Maybe mustard-colored walls and Blues Traveler were enough to keep people standing in line in the 1990s, but Starbucks has to step it up a bit. They’re basically getting by because they only have to be better than Waffle House.


23 posted on 05/10/2007 5:26:16 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Gopher Broke

“Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help?”
“Heaven is totally overrated.”

“The cups are not pro- or anti-religion per se.”-Tricia Moriarty


Hey Tricia, you’re a fool..per se.


24 posted on 05/10/2007 5:28:30 AM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: Sudetenland

this one should be accompanied by a barf alert and a headline that reads, “superior, brilliant, scientific beings at starbucks declare their brilliant, superior, scientific stance for the world to see”


25 posted on 05/10/2007 5:30:59 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Gopher Broke
First off, Starbuck's coffee sucks. It is over-roasted and has achieved the dubious distinction of being overpoweringly weak.

That being said,

"Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside ourselves for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure."

Is a perfectly reasonable line of questioning. If a person's faith does not allow reasonable questions, how does it differ from the monstrous mania of islamofascism?

As regards:

Heaven is totally overrated. It seems boring. Clouds, listening to people play the harp. It should be somewhere you can’t wait to go, like a luxury hotel. Maybe blue skies and soft music were enough to keep people in line in the 17th century, but Heaven has to step it up a bit. They're basically getting by because they only have to be better than Hell.

This doesn't differ markedly from similar musings Mark Twain penned over 100 years ago and it still rings true. If the common concept of heaven were actually factual few of us would opt for it. Read "The Bible According to Mark Twain" and you'll see his point. It is a bit veiled perhaps but it suggests that a deeper spiritual concept may be more appealing to most of us.

26 posted on 05/10/2007 5:32:31 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: School of Rational Thought
Say it with me, “Caribou Coffee”.

You misspelled Speedway. :-)

27 posted on 05/10/2007 5:32:43 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Gopher Broke
You neglected to mention the remainder of the article in which Starbuck's provides 2 examples of pro-God quotations on their cups.

SHAME ON YOU FOR CREATING CONTROVERSY WHERE NONE SHOULD EXIST! This is the kind of garbage I expect to see on DU or DK than on a conservative site. Are we to be isolated form any statement critical or contrary to our own beliefs.

Starbucks provided WND with some cup messages that could be viewed as "pro-God," including:

The Way I See It #92: You are not an accident. Your parents may not have planned you, but God did. He wanted you alive and created you for a purpose. Focusing on yourself will never reveal your purpose. You were made by God and for God, and until you understand that, life will never make sense. Only in God do we discover our origin, our identity, our meaning, our purpose, our significance, and our destiny. -- Dr. Rick Warren, author of "The Purpose-Driven Life."

The Way I See It #158:

It's tragic that extremists co-opt the notion of God, and that hipsters and artists reject spirituality out of hand. I don't have a fixed idea of God. But I feel that it's us – the messed-up, the half-crazy, the burning, the questing – that need God, a lot more than the goody-two-shoes do. -- Mike Doughty, musician.

In fact, the message from Warren even prompted some complaints that Starbucks was pushing faith in God onto its customers.

"I fully believe that it's an inspirational and thought-provoking comment, but I am not a Christian, and I don't appreciate having God's Plan preached to me via my coffee cup. It's one thing to read about someone's point of view, but it's quite another to read a blatantly religious statement informing me that my purpose is to serve God." -- Denice Paxton, Santa Ana, Calif.

"It is when Mr. Warren lets the reader know that they are nothing until they have accepted God as their creator that I find offense with. ... Despite the disclaimer that his comment may not align with company policy, I am disappointed that such a powerful organization would allow these thoughts to be disseminated. Jeers to you, Starbucks, for allowing Mr. Warren to be one of your series commentators." -- Lisa Tennenbaum, San Francisco On Monday, WND asked its readers in its daily poll: "What do you think of the so-called 'anti-God' message on Starbucks coffee cups?"

With more than 7,600 respondents, there was a virtual tie for the No. 1 answer:

I will do my best to avoid buying anything at Starbucks in the future. 27.64% (2,104 votes)

It's leftist garbage from a leftist company based in a leftist city. 27.36% (2,083 votes) On WND's messageboard tied to that poll, readers added more of their sentiments, including:

"Paleeze! Isn't it funny how every thing is considered hate speech unless it's directed at the Christian God? Starbucks should try putting a derogatory remark about the Muslims [or] Allah and see what kind of response they get."

"This is just another example of satanic leadership in an American corporation. It's not the ship's fault it's off course. It's the person or persons behind the wheel steering the ship. ... It's not necessary to attack God to help market a product successfully, but some human beings in the company thought it was a good idea. They are the ones to blame for the idea and implementation. Not the company itself."

"The quotes were meant to spark conversation. If you're a Christian, which I am, then converse about Christ. Starbucks never said you have to agree with the quotes, just talk about them. If you ask me, it sounds like the perfect opportunity to witness."
28 posted on 05/10/2007 5:32:44 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: Gopher Broke
Heaven is totally overrated. It seems boring. Clouds, listening to people play the harp. It should be somewhere you can’t wait to go, like a luxury hotel. Maybe blue skies and soft music were enough to keep people in line in the 17th century, but Heaven has to step it up a bit. They're basically getting by because they only have to be better than Hell. -- Joel Stein, columnist for the Los Angeles Times.

I can't stand this guy. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is as funny as he thinks it is. I pray that someday I run across him IRL so that I can tell him to his face what I think of his "I Don't Support The Troops" column.

As far as Starbucks goes, I don't drink their crap coffee anyway. I have never thought that the requirement for good coffee is that it should taste like rocket fuel (or what I imagine rocket fuel would taste like). Give me Dunkies or Marylou's (an awesome little chain on the South Shore in MA) any day of the week. I'd boycott Starbucks, but I never go there as it is.
29 posted on 05/10/2007 5:32:50 AM PDT by USMCWife6869 (Godspeed Sand Sharks.)
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To: Gopher Broke

I can choose to go to any number of “non-Starbucks” coffee outlets here in SE Wisconsin. I currently favor a Citgo station that charges 25 cents when you bring in your own mug. The first cup of the day comes from home and I enjoy experimenting with a variety of locally available beans. The quarter a cup refill is at the midpoint of my daily commute. $tarbuck$- No way!


30 posted on 05/10/2007 5:33:26 AM PDT by Knute (Tell me again ONE good reason I'm living here in Wisconsin??)
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To: Williams

No no, the question is would they print “anti”- Muslim cups.


31 posted on 05/10/2007 5:35:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Gopher Broke
The quote was written by Bill Schell, a Starbucks customer from London, Ontario, Canada, and was included as part of Starbucks' "The Way I See It" campaign to collect different viewpoints and spur discussion

Amount I've spent at Starbucks prior to today: $0.00

Amount I intend to spend at Starbucks now and in the future: $0.00

Now that's money well spent.
32 posted on 05/10/2007 5:37:05 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I have a big carbon footprint and I'm not afraid to use it.)
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To: Gopher Broke
"Why in moments of crisis do we ask God for strength and help? As cognitive beings, why would we ask something that may well be a figment of our imaginations for guidance? Why not search inside ourselves for the power to overcome? After all, we are strong enough to cause most of the catastrophes we need to endure."

The answer to that is clear. It is not innate to our beings to have "the power to overcome" on our own. It's a trait that must be taught and developed, unlike destruction. Imagine the most complex project you've ever mastered. Imagine the time and effort necessary to accomplish that task. Now try to imagine how quickly that project could be destroyed. Destruction and catastrophes need no complex, creative qualities as does innovative design and purpose. Anyone can destroy; not all are blessed with the capability of invention and the reasoning to apply it.

33 posted on 05/10/2007 5:38:10 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: massgopguy

You have hit the nail on the head. Hey Starbucks, try this one out: “Mohammed is an infidel and a murderer.” Somehow, I think this will never make it on a coffee cup.


34 posted on 05/10/2007 5:39:36 AM PDT by Regina (regina)
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To: Gopher Broke

I’d pay their crazy prices if they put the cartoon caricature of Bomb Head Allah on their cups.

But I doubt they’d do that.


35 posted on 05/10/2007 5:41:44 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Are you posting to the right thread?


36 posted on 05/10/2007 5:44:20 AM PDT by stevio ((NRA))
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To: Muzzle_em
And/Or...

"I’d like to see them dole out a few thought provoking, anti-Muslim Wicca cups and see how well that goes over."

37 posted on 05/10/2007 5:44:21 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Gopher Broke

May I expect them to print a cup with my quip that is not flattering to Islam’s basic tenets?


38 posted on 05/10/2007 5:50:01 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Gopher Broke

When I’m having a coffee meltdown and no where near home, I will bow my head in shame and walk into a Starbucks. After adding extra cream and sugar (GOOD coffee requires no sugar) it passes to give me the caffeine fix I need.

That said, as the owner of a small coffee house, while ordering a min. quantity of 50,000 pre-printed cups is out of the question, I have my “own” campaign I am about to start. Through signage, the top says ‘The Way I See It’ with a big red X over the text. Underneath, it begins, ‘The Way It Is’ in italics. . . I especially wish to address the uber-liberal SB quotes like why AIDS is so rampant in Africa (that really ticked me off - there’s no magical fairy giving AIDS to children in Africa as the cup would have you believe)or any other wacko ‘thoughts’ that are printed on their cups.

Kind of like the ‘Rush Limbaugh Response’ :)


39 posted on 05/10/2007 5:57:28 AM PDT by Dasaji (The U.S.A. is the Land of Opportunity and you've got 50 states to do it in!)
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To: Muzzle_em
"I’d like to see them dole out a few thought provoking, anti-Muslim cups and see how well that goes over."

Yeah, gotta love the fact that Christians are so evil. Makes for a good time poking fun at them and their "anti-Mohammed" religion...

/s

40 posted on 05/10/2007 5:58:10 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly (Grassroots Conservatism at its finest...VOTE DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: Gopher Broke

Hee...I wonder if they’ll put John 3:16 on a cup of their swill....hee.


41 posted on 05/10/2007 5:58:17 AM PDT by Carl LaFong ( Enough Is Too Much !)
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To: Gopher Broke
Heaven is totally overrated. It seems boring. Clouds, listening to people play the harp. It should be somewhere you can’t wait to go, like a luxury hotel. Maybe blue skies and soft music were enough to keep people in line in the 17th century, but Heaven has to step it up a bit. They’re basically getting by because they only have to be better than Hell. — Joel Stein, columnist for the Los Angeles Times.

***

Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him!!

1Cr 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him!!

***

One of my favorite verses. Tell who ever will listen the good news!
We cannot even begin to imagine how wonderful it will be!

42 posted on 05/10/2007 6:00:40 AM PDT by Esther Ruth
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To: Gopher Broke

I went to a Starbucks once and said ‘never again’. Nothing but snooty career gals and guys in suits in a line with their briefcases and haughty faces. I love a good latte now and then and but I only frequent the places where the help is friendly and there isn’t a long line of coffee snobs.


43 posted on 05/10/2007 6:01:56 AM PDT by MTMS
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To: Sudetenland

Of course Starbuck is overrated. Perhaps the boycott should extend to United Airlines because they are proud to serve Starbucks coffee on their flights. I wish that Starbucks had the nerve to criticize Allah instead.

I buy green coffee beans and roast, grind, and brew my own coffee for a lot less $$$ than Starbucks charges. But there are those who are in the habit of stopping by every day for their coffee. It is good coffee, although more like a French roast in taste. I suspect that they overroast their beans to get a more uniform taste. It would be too easy for me to boycott because I do not go there anyway, maybe once every ten years.


44 posted on 05/10/2007 6:04:35 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Gopher Broke

A Godless nation is a doomed nation.


45 posted on 05/10/2007 6:05:21 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party is the Party of Sociopaths and Morons (S&M).)
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To: Gopher Broke
Dear Starbucks, Here's a few ideas that could improve your business. First, please have a line just for people who want a normal cup of coffee so I don't have to wait for coffee lala lati crowd to make up their minds just what they want to have, then watch your employees take for ever to make it. Second, Cup sizes need to be in English, small, medium, large and extra large. I can't stand it when I speak English and your employees correct me with a foreign interpretation. Third, I don't know what you use to spray on your coffee beans, but it gums up my grinder and makes a mess. Your coffee is good, but buying your beans to make it at home is not worth the time it takes to clean up my coffee grinder. Forth, Please let me know when your anti-Mohammad coffee mugs will be available. I will need a travel mug and a set of ceramic ones for home and work. Fifth, Please keep your current hours of operation at your Clayon, NC store. I like being able to get a cup of coffee to go at 5:45 am on my way to work when I forget to make my own coffee. The local hippie coffee shop is all upset about your store moving into the area, but the hippies don't open up until 8:00 am. The day is half over by then? Sixth, God is very upset with your new anti-God coffee mugs. It's very stupid to mess with the guy who's in charge of everything.
46 posted on 05/10/2007 6:09:45 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Gopher Broke

Anyone who would pay $8.79 for a cup of coffee and a sweet roll will go for anything.


47 posted on 05/10/2007 6:11:14 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Stark_GOP
Hey Tricia, you’re a fool..per se.

OTOH, we haven't seen all the quotes, just the ones that angered some Christians.

48 posted on 05/10/2007 6:13:49 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Sudetenland

Don’t confuse ‘em with facts.


49 posted on 05/10/2007 6:14:19 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Knute
I currently favor a Citgo station

I'd take Starbucks over Citgo and Hugo Chavez any day.



 

50 posted on 05/10/2007 6:15:06 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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