Posted on 05/07/2007 1:01:56 AM PDT by highlander_UW
Carbon credits may reduce only guilt So far, offsets 'yield few if any environmental benefits' ......... How clean is your carbon credit?
Carbon credits are advertised as a way for polluters to offset the greenhouse gases they produce. ....... Worse, reports of fraud and abuse are piling up. Most recently, an investigation by The Financial Times found that companies and individuals "rushing to go green have been spending millions on 'carbon credit' projects that yield few if any environmental benefits."
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...
I can't believe anyone who's seriously "green" buys into this scheme. Only charlatans like Al Gore--"Do as I say, not as I do"--could go for this snake oil.
Algore is selling the snake oil...he owns stock in the company he buys his credits from. He just moves money from one pocket to the other, and liberals are too dense to grasp it.
In MD they have a place called Olney. They almost have guilt. Almost Olney only guilt. Good thing I'm around, or it would be only Olney.
The article says, "only charlitans like Al Gore...". Ah, so he is responsible! Maybe he will give me a discount on only offsets.
yeah, I know it's stupid. So is global warming. It's also 0420 and I'm fried from no sleep. I've only been awake, and I'm feeling guilty...
I think you’ve mislpaced an “only”.
Not just carbon credits, the whole environmental movement is about assuaging guilt. When you are guilty you wouldn’t mind paying higher taxes knowing your money is being put to ‘good use’.
For example, every person would be alloted x number of pounds of Carbon emissions, that must be presented every time you fill up your car. If you have any credits left over, you can sell them to someone else.
Then you have something tangible to barter.
This will be the 21st century's equivalent to the Catholic Church's Indulgences racket of centuries past. These scammers are trying to frenzy the market like the Dutch tulip bulb mania, and then walk away with the billions in ill gotten capital scot free. Evil evil people who are destroying the lives of billions and killing millions of third world people to follow their scheme to it's logical conclusion, complete collapse of the carbon trading market, and discrediting of anything and everything "global warming" related in the slightest.
Algore - Ignorant, stupid, or liar?
Ignorant means that someone does not know something. This could mean they did not have access to the truth. It’s not realisic to think that Algore has not had access to the truth. There is a great deal of information about the truth of “carbon credits” available.
Stupid means that someone does not have a reasoning ability. This can happen when someone is blinded by idealogy.
A liar is someone who says things they know are not true.
Algore - Ignorant, stupid, or liar?
LOL!! How about “Being stuck in a private jet/50 room mansion/SUV procession owned by a hypocritical liberal schmuck who demands that the little people reduce emissions to combat Global Warming.”
Basically Al...
I have to use less energy,so that you can use more?
I have to eat less, so that you can eat more?
I have to earn less, so that you can earn more?
I have to speak less, so that you can pontificate more?
I have to reason less, so that you can lie more?
I have to ..........
Hmmmm.....wonder why American’s beginnng to see the picture.
"THE POLAR ICE CAPS ARE MELTING! THE POLAR ICE CAPS ARE MELTING! WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? IT`S GLOBAL WARMING!"
"The earths atmosphere is only made up of 0.0383% CO2 which you can literally call 'zero point zero'. On top of that, 2/3rds of the earth is covered with water of which contains algae and other life forms that suck up CO2. Add on top of that all the plant life that that covers almost all of the land on earth that sucks up CO2. So as you see, all this talk by me saying that man made CO2 emissions will destroy the earth is complete and utter bullsh*t."
Algore - Ignorant, stupid, or liar?
Stupid - all the way to the bank.
The Kyoto accord was just another name for Carbon Credits. It was an International scam that the world almost fell for a scam that would ahve ruined us had George Bush not realised it for what it was.
IMHO, I’ve always assumed that “carbon credits” are code for how an AL Gore presidency intends to deal with the consequences of pulling out of Iraq.......
In actuality, its worse than that.
He is the chairman of the board of a company that (as an employee benefit) purchases carbon credits for the board members (maybe all employees, I’m not sure).
Therefore, he owns stock in a company, that buys carbon credits for him.
I call this a distinction because if he bought the credits from himself, then 100% of the money would (theoretically) go into a company, then distributed in the pockets of all shareholders. This is the reverse of that. $$ comes from 100% of the shareholders (or investors), and benefits him.
Only libs misunderstand economics as magic thinking that can take a worthless gas and trade it like stock.
I’m planting a couple of trees and sprucing up the yard this year. Can I pick up a standard Carbon Credit Form at my local Home Depot....I’ll be sure to include the receipt and any bar codes necessary to get my “credit”.
The hubby’s looking at coveted John Deere lawn mower (gas guzzler model) and the credit would go a long way to fulfill his dreams. He even promises to sell the grass cuttings to help develop green fuel to fill up the Hummer.
Shocking, just SHOCKING I tell you!
Liberals are idiots.
From Wiki:
On July 25, 1997, before the Kyoto Protocol was finalized (although it had been fully negotiated, and a penultimate draft was finished), the U.S. Senate unanimously passed by a 95–0 vote the Byrd-Hagel Resolution (S. Res. 98), which stated the sense of the Senate was that the United States should not be a signatory to any protocol that did not include binding targets and timetables for developing as well as industrialized nations or "would result in serious harm to the economy of the United States". On November 12, 1998, Vice President Al Gore symbolically signed the protocol. Both Gore and Senator Joseph Lieberman indicated that the protocol would not be acted upon in the Senate until there was participation by the developing nations. The Clinton Administration never submitted the protocol to the Senate for ratification.
Future historians may look at such inanities as “Carbon credits” and regard our era as one where insanity was the order of the day.
The reason the ‘really green’ folks buy into this is simple. It sets the precedent for ‘carbon credits’ on a mandatory world wide scale.
Essentially, the goal is to set a cap on carbon emissions world wide. This cap would then be allocated on a per capita basis. Ultimately, this would lead to a massive transfer of wealth between the developed and undeveloped world and a leveling of living standards at a much lower level than that we currently enjoy in the developed world.
Each year the cap would decrease until we all live in the utopian ‘green world’.
Carbon credits.... can I use these at ANY mall? I love shopping.
I think conservatives should get behind this idea and become the primary carbon offset providers. I can’t think of a better way to redistribute the wealth of some of these econuts that have more money than sense.
http://www.wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html
Don’t these inconvenient truths just keep getting in the way?
YES
My dogs have substantially reduced their intestinal emissions since I adopted more effective methods to keep then out of the used kitty litter. Because if this, I’m prepared to sell dog gas carbon credits to anyone who wants to buy them from me at $100 dollars apiece.
This is a picture of a white cedar tree growing on my property which I will KILL unless you buy the carbon offsets from me!
So this isn't just about some anonymous carbon credits anymore, this has just become personal!
Just look at this magnificent, mature white cedar! This year it's trunk's girth will exceed 8 inches, meaning... THE TIMBER COMPANY WANTS IT!
Sooooooooooo..... this is kind of all up to you.
This wonderful tree can spend the next decade scrubbing the enviro-toxins out of the air because YOU saved it, or it can wind up as plywood by July!
I'm serious. I've done this before. Don't call the police or FBI.
You know what amazes me, is the types of people who buy into this global warming hoax. From NYC Mayors, Senators, Professors all these people who are so-called highly educated. Yet none of them have taken the time to look how ridiculous the evidence is. They all take some wackos word for it. And for this they are willing to destroy entire economies.
Al Gore has literally convinced them that CO2 is like cyanide gas, that it`s some kind of “poison”. It`s just absolutely, utterly, mind boggling, incredible that anybody takes this bonafide psychopath seriously on anything! I swear, if Al Gore declared tomorrow that all the water in the sea is getting flushed down a giant toilet bowl, half the world would believe him!
Yeah, I really get some weird looks when I tell some people that I took out about 8 very large trees because they were blocking the sun from my solar panels. :>)
Oops. Try this. http://www.wecnmagazine.com/2007issues/may/may07.html
Carbon credit opportunity reached my email this morning. Got a feeling this thing is 100% bogus. Maxibogosity.
Like paying for a tree that was going to be planted anyways? D'oh!
Do you believe a five day forecast?
If that doesn't speak a million words on the global warming sham.
We know that “carbon credits” are a joke. The real purpose of hyping them is to prepare us for taxes on carbon emissions.
Don’t expect the left (dems, media) to admit that they are a joke.
A little refinement per request. This pic just has too much potential with Al's Global Scamming show.
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Just doing something on Ebay to allow someone to pay for my landscaping and my solar panels to absolve themselves from their CO2 sins.
Also, did you see the Yosemite special on Discovery Channel. Its really incredible but they had to do the Global Warming schtick. Its almost a requirement to do any show about nature.
If you can’t talk your way out of the beating, you’ll settle for picking the club?
LOL! Rob normally shows more enthusiasm for goofy stuff.
LMAO! EXCELLENT!
Exhaled air contains as much as 4% carbon dioxide. Don’t tell anyone this or we will have to stop breathing.
First step is to show that there is a "genuine" desire to do the "right" thing and purchase Carbon Offsets. The second step is to show that Carbon Offsets are meaningless unless they are issued and regulated by the Government. Third Step is the issuance of Carbon Credits to individuals and businesses, and require that the appropriate amount of Carbon Credits be exchanged for any Carbon fuel purchase.
Predicting the course of events will allow us to stop it before it goes too far.
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