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Group: ‘Where’s the beef?’ in border enforcement
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^ | Jonathan Clark

Posted on 05/06/2007 10:46:31 AM PDT by SandRat

HEREFORD — The local civilian anti-illegal immigration group American Border Patrol has expanded its operations to a 100-acre ranch here that fronts both Mexico and the San Pedro River. The group says it will use the property as a base to continue demonstrating how inexpensive technology can help secure the border.

During a Friday night fund-raising barbecue for Republican presidential candidate Tom Tancredo, ABP founder Glenn Spencer showed off the ranch’s six-camera surveillance system to a crowd of approximately 150 people.

As Spencer displayed a split screen projection of the views from four of the cameras, Mike King, ABP’s technical director, alerted him to a view into Mexico that showed a vehicle rumbling along a dirt road.

“That’s probably a load vehicle headed for the San Pedro River,” Spencer told the audience.

He estimated there were as many as 50 illegal border-crossers within a two-mile radius of the ranch at that moment.

Unlike the U.S. Border Patrol, which maintains camera towers about 1/2 mile from the international boundary, the ABP has surveillance cameras positioned right next to the border, Spencer said.

Furthermore, he added, while Border Patrol cameras communicate via costly microwave systems, ABP uses a relatively inexpensive “canopy” wireless Ethernet connection.

“It’s similar to what you would have at your home,” Spencer explained, “where the range might be 1,000 feet. Here, we have the same capability, but it goes out 12 miles.”

The cameras will be monitored at a command center RV at the ranch, where volunteers control their movements using a hand-held, video-game-like controller.

Spencer hopes ABP members will eventually use the Internet to man the cameras from anywhere in the country.

Meanwhile, the American Border Patrol also will continue monitoring the border via cameras mounted on inexpensive unmanned aerial vehicles flown at altitudes of 500 feet.

“The government’s UAVs cost $7 million,” Spencer said. “We built ours for $50,000.”

The ABP has dubbed its program “Operation BEEF,” which stands for Border Enforcement Evaluation First.

“We’re calling it operation BEEF because the government is saying they’re going to beef up the border,” Spencer explained. “So we’re asking, ‘Where’s the beef?’ ”

“We document what goes on at the border,” he continued. “Our plan is to place on the Web each month a complete report of what the border situation was for each Border Patrol station from San Diego to El Paso.”

Tancredo, a Republican U.S. representative from Colorado who has made tough border enforcement the focal point of his campaign, praised Spencer for his work.

“He has done more than perhaps anyone else to show what is possible, and to show that what we have in this country is worth protecting,” Tancredo told the audience.

“How many other countries in the world can you think of that have people who are willing to do this kind of thing?”

Spencer founded American Border Patrol after moving to Arizona from California in August 2002.

HERALD/REVIEW reporter Jonathan Clark can be reached at 515-4693 or by e-mail at jonathan.clark@bisbeereview.net.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abp; aliens; glennspencer; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; smugglers

1 posted on 05/06/2007 10:46:35 AM PDT by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; Borax Queen; idratherbepainting; AZHSer; Sabertooth; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; ...

BORDER PING


2 posted on 05/06/2007 10:47:07 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

So what?

What happens when they get to the river and then cross?


3 posted on 05/06/2007 10:54:49 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 Positive carbon emitter)
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To: SandRat
Hmmm let see. The US House Republicans fought tooth and nail for a strict border enforcement bill and the American people FIRED them.
4 posted on 05/06/2007 10:55:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: SandRat

>>Furthermore, he added, while Border Patrol cameras communicate via costly microwave systems, ABP uses a relatively inexpensive “canopy” wireless Ethernet connection.

“It’s similar to what you would have at your home,” Spencer explained, “where the range might be 1,000 feet. Here, we have the same capability, but it goes out 12 miles.” <<

Canopy is Motorola’s brand name for its commercial grade wireless internet products.

It is better than home grade and much cheaper than microwave. My concern is that it pretty blockable. I would think human/drug trafficers could send a kid out with a suitcase sized device and take the system down while staying on the Mexican side of the border.


5 posted on 05/06/2007 10:56:43 AM PDT by gondramB (God only has ten rules, uncle Hank, and he has a much bigger house.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Hmmm let see. The US House Republicans fought tooth and nail for a strict border enforcement bill and the American people FIRED them.

Hmmmm, let's see, you are lying. Neither the house or the senate fought for border control. They gave lip service. They also failed on a number of other conservative ideals and principles. That is the real reason they lost in 2006, everyone but you seems to know that. The majority of the people in this country want illegal immigration stopped or at least slowed down to a crawl and they want deportation of ALL illegals.

You can lie and spin all you want but facts are facts. If they(republicans) fail to live up to conservative ideals they will be voted out, just as they were in 2006.

6 posted on 05/06/2007 11:02:12 AM PDT by calex59
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To: bert

If they get past the coyote hijackers on this side, don’t step in the quick-sand in the San Pedro, get past the BP and the County Sheriff, then they stand around Home Depot looking for day labor.


7 posted on 05/06/2007 11:08:25 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
I wonder if it would be cheaper than “The Wall” if we erected small towers every two miles along the border and put a military sniper with night vision in each one with order to wound anyone coming across from the South. I wonder how long it would take for the flow to stop.
8 posted on 05/06/2007 11:38:23 AM PDT by econjack
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To: SandRat

Is there anywhere on the web that has close to the REAL number of illegal immigrants in America?


9 posted on 05/06/2007 11:55:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: SandRat

Pics of Glen Spencer’s Tancredo Fundraiser

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1829044/posts


10 posted on 05/06/2007 11:56:31 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

11 posted on 05/06/2007 11:57:43 AM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: econjack

Actually, it is much simpler than that. Start enforcing the law here. Hire illegals, go to jail. In 6 months they will all be gone. Probably only need to bust several hundred employers and folks would get the message pretty quick.


12 posted on 05/06/2007 12:03:06 PM PDT by wastoute
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To: bert
So what?

What happens when they get to the river and then cross?

When they notify the White House that there are illegals on our side of the border elPresidente Jorge Boosh sends the limos down to pick them up so they can hurry and get in before the amnesty. LOL!

13 posted on 05/06/2007 12:03:08 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Ladycalif

?


14 posted on 05/06/2007 12:06:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: MNJohnnie
Hmmm let see. The US House Republicans fought tooth and nail for a strict border enforcement bill and the American people FIRED them.

Oh my gosh! You're still here. I hoped thought you had been banned with the other trouble makers. LOL! I see you're still distorting the truth! Who and what bill are you talking about?

15 posted on 05/06/2007 12:07:33 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Not that I’ve found yet.


16 posted on 05/06/2007 12:12:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

bump for Freedom from invasion


17 posted on 05/06/2007 12:15:59 PM PDT by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: NRA2BFree; MNJohnnie
Is MNJohnnie really Dane?
18 posted on 05/06/2007 12:17:16 PM PDT by calvo
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To: MNJohnnie
The US House Republicans fought tooth and nail for a strict border enforcement bill and the American people FIRED them.

Members of Tancredo's immigration caucus lost seats at a much lower rate than non-members.

19 posted on 05/06/2007 12:19:38 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: calvo; MNJohnnie
Is MNJohnnie really Dane?

Good question! I really don't know. I do know that there were a bunch of pro illegal immigration folks who showed up on all the immigration threads and harassed other FReepers until a lot of good FReepers got banned because of them. They were all conservatives too, and now the pro illegal immigration gang all got banned over Rudy. They could only hide their liberalism for just so long, until it reared it's ugly head again, and they got the boot. I think they're all gone except MNJohnnie. I guess we could ask him. Johnnie, are you Dane? LOL!

20 posted on 05/06/2007 12:44:09 PM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: dirtboy

Rove called Rep Hayworth a racist right before the election.
That helped to eliminate one more conservative.


21 posted on 05/06/2007 12:46:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Rove called Rep Hayworth a racist right before the election. That helped to eliminate one more conservative.

Is that for real....? Did he really call Hayworth a racist? Where did Karl say that...?

22 posted on 05/06/2007 12:51:40 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

At a HOR social gathering in the White House. It was all over the media for several days. I’m surprised you missed it.

Rove(louldly) “ Well, you really just don’t like the brown people, do you”


23 posted on 05/06/2007 12:56:53 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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ABP Ping!

Border surveillance on the cheap...


24 posted on 05/06/2007 3:14:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (Ask me about Troop Support...)
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To: dirtboy

Those election results were normal for a second term presidential election, but people really come out of the woodwork to explain how they really meant something this time. Well they did The party in the White House generally loses seats in the House and Senate. That’s about it...


25 posted on 05/06/2007 3:21:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: MNJohnnie; SandRat; All
The US House Republicans fought tooth and nail for a strict border enforcement bill and the American people FIRED them.

There's that broken record again! Keep tellin' yourself that Johnnie, you're the only one left who believes it. You've been shown otherwise dozens of times. Doesn't it get tiresome having to repeat lies like that over and over?

11.5% of all Republican seats in Congress were lost as Democrats took back control of Congress

But only 6.7% of the Members of Tancredo’s Immigration Reform Caucus lost their seats.AND- one of them was Hayworth who voted against HR 4437!

# 9.6% with an A grade lost

# 25.0% with an F grade lost

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/electionanalysis.html

26 posted on 05/06/2007 3:37:17 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: HiJinx

I guess they will now be able to accurately count how many are getting through now.


27 posted on 05/06/2007 3:59:29 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: DoughtyOne

Great to see you around, D1!


28 posted on 05/06/2007 6:40:59 PM PDT by dirtboy (JimRob's 12th Commandment: Thou shall not trash actual pubbies on FR to pimp false pubbies)
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To: dirtboy

Thanks. It’s good to see you also.


29 posted on 05/07/2007 7:54:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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