Posted on 05/05/2007 9:15:30 PM PDT by george76
Former Rep. Bob Schaffer (R-Colo.) said Saturday at a Lincoln Day Dinner that he would run for U.S. Senate in 2008...
Speaking at a small dinner in Teller County, Schaffer told a crowd of about 100 ...
“He announced that we were the first to know that he is a candidate,” said County Commissioner and former county Republican Party Chairman Bob Campbell. Campbell added that Schaffer said a formal announcement and release would be coming at a later date.
Current Teller County Republican Party Chairman Mark Sievers also confirmed Schaffer’s announcement: “He did say that. He was unequivocal.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Have you see this ?
What has happened to Colorado?
What do you mean? Bob Schaffer is a soild cosnervative. He'll make a fine Senator for Colorado.
Lots of illegals can vote in safe cities like Denver, Boulder...
and lots of city democrats from other states fleeing their messes are also invading Colorado with their ‘stuck on stupid’ ideas...
The big problems are tied to the politics of the Republican party. When the GOP nominates candidates like Pete Coors, Greg Walcher, Bob Beauprez and Scott Tipton, Republicans can expect to lose elections. Colorado has always been a independent minded, conservative leaning state. Candidates have to appeal to a broad range of people. But individuality is still a big aspect for Coloradans.
The Mexicans will take over Federal this weekend. I wonder how many are legal ? I do not have the number, but getting a driver’s license, etc. does not seem to be hard.
Our last governor was terrible. The others you mention were no better.
McInnis and Campbell have been sitting on their hands...
Hopefully, we can start to turn it around somewhat.
What`s the difference between Colorado and California? California has a beach
TABOR is still in place and tax rates will not be going up anytime soon. Colorado remains one of the lowest tax states in the nation. California is one of the highest taxed states.
Your original question was as clear as mud. The topic of the thread and the brief article has to do with Bob Schaffer's run for the Senate. Not what's with Colorado. If your interested the second paragraph of my post at #6, I mention what the problems are.
That is one ignorant statemnt. LOL I've lived in Colorado for over 30 years. Colorado is nothing like California. You pinhead.
Bill Owens was Governor of Colorado for eight years. He wasn't perfect, but he did a good job for the people. Some folks didn't like his support for allowing the state to keep surpluses for five years, but it was the best decision. Otherwise tax rates would have gone up and TABOR would be have died a hard death. Right now, TABOR is alive. Don't listen to the Colorado Libertarians/libertarians who spout off on FR.
TABOR wasn`t changed in `06? Guess I`m wrong. The head of the Republicans Party in Col.was on Hugh Hewitt a few weeks ago and said that property taxes were going up, but, the guy`s probably a pinhead like me. How do you like your new Democrat Legislature and your new Rat Governor?
Hey...
Noo Yawk...
“You pinhead.”
Dat’s what I’m tawkin’ ‘bout. ;o)
You don’t need to insult people.
Your arguments stand alone.
I met Owens before he was governor and he came across well. He followed up by mail, answered questions promptly, sent information, etc.
The few times I met him while he was governor, he was trying to do too much...lots of national tv as if he was running for President ( even many sport shows ). I know that the governor job has tons of pressure, but Owens seemed more overwhelmed and less organized than others.
He did great his first years with T-Rex...but then seemed to fade at the end. Maybe his personal problems were overwhelming ?
My disappointment is less on his misses with TABOR than he did not appear to be a good party leader. We can not blame him for all of our misses, but for some at least.
I wish that he could have run for a third term. If he was not term limited, he would have won. Also he could have been our US Senator, had he wanted the job in 2006.
IMHO.
Doesn't Ward Churchill count? He's a son of a beach.
TABOR is still intact. In 2005, the people voted to allow the state to keep any budget surpluses for five years, in order to rebuild the states infrastructure which has been hurting since 2000. Better then having tax rate increases and seeing TABOR go down in flames.
The Democrats held onto the state legislature and Bill Ritter is the new Dem governor. Facts of life. The GOP ran bad candidtaes and lost.
I live in the most conservative county in the state and one of the most conservative in the nation. El Paso County Colorado, home to Colorado Springs. Great life down here.
You’re to much of a coward to post where you live, but I take it you are in some part of the Socialist Republic of Kalifornia. Am I right?
Get this through your thick skull. Colorado is no California. And anyone who takes that RINO loving Hugh Hewitt seriously, needs to have their head examined.
Owens had been talked about as a serious contender for president in ‘08. I am guessing that got derailed after he and his wife were divorced. Plus I know he disappointed some conservatives on a few issues. Too bad he couldn’t have been considered presidential material for this coming election since we need as many good candidates as we can get.
Just having some fun with the old boy. ;^)
You may be having some fun,
but your message is diluted...
Noo Yawk...;o)
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Last I heard, Owens and his wife are back together. I believe it was a seperation, not a divorce.
But your point is accurate : his personal problems likely helped to end any 2008 Presidential run.
>>>>>My disappointment is less on his misses with TABOR than he did not appear to be a good party leader.
I'll agree with you there. The entire state GOP was asleep at the wheel starting in 2004. Hopefully they'll get better candidates to run in 2008 and 2010. Bob Schaffer is a good conservative. We need more like him running for office. My new Congressman, Doug Lamborn so far has been just as conservative as Joel Hefley was. Maybe even more. So far so good.
The State Democratic Party is weak. Problem. The state GOP party is even weaker!
I disagree. When dealing with pinheads, you've got to be assertive and if necessary, aggressive.
If McInnis, Campbell, Allard... help work this we have a decent chance.
If we attack each other and run a weak campaign...it will be ugly.
We should be able to take back our state Senate...it will be interesting to watch our new party leader.
Okie dokie.
If you "feel" that need...
then, you are a male harpie.
I say that as one who, very respectfully, AGREES with your politics.
Owen’s infidelity cost him.
I think we’re on the same page.
If the Colorado GOP finds better candidates, they’ll win some elections. The Democrats have offered up candidates like Bill Ritter and the Salazar brothers. They’re beatable.
There is no such thing as a male harpie. And to suggest I'm anything like Howlin, Peach, Old Friend and the rest, is creating falsehoods beyond the pale. I'm not gonna allow anyone to obfuscate the facts and the truth about my state. I will always defend Colorado from the lies and innuendo of pinheads.
In general, I'd agree with you. However, Walcher is a different story. I was somewhat skeptical after some of his actions at DNR, especially the direction of DOW. Administration is not the same as representation, however. During his congressional campaign he had a meet and greet in the park across the street from my store and I got to spend about a half hour, one on one. I questioned him on foreign policy, military, trade issues, property rights, you name it. Suffice it to say he would fall to the right of most FReepers. The biggest concern, and I spoke to his campaign manager about it, was his association with the NW Colorado kleptocrat gang. I figure it cost him 5 points in the election in this neighborhood. You're not suggesting he was too conservative, are you?
Now, if the pubbies hadn't rolled over on redistricting that added just enough easterners to the third district (the headwaters issue) maybe the Western Slope would have some representation in DC. BTW, the new is wearing off John Salazar. Most folks out here expect honesty, because a man's word is his bond. Anyone that can hammer his 'say one thing in Colorado, do something else in DC' behavior home in the next election should be in good shape.
It’s exceedly wonderful of you to defend Colorado, or anything else for that matter.
There aren’t many people here that I agree with more than you.
My suggestion is that there is no reason to behave like “those” people.
“There is no such thing as a male harpie.”
Sinkspur? Pukin Dog?
I’m just saying that there is no reason to “name call”.
That is all.
Please define your terms and cite your source.
If Owens had run for a 3rd term, he’d have finished the job of reducing the state GOP to a permanent minority status. Grossly incompetent RINO. I can’t believe we thought the guy was Presidential material.
>>>>>BTW, the new is wearing off John Salazar.
That's good to hear. The downside to the state GOP, basically mirrors the downside to the national GOP. Its a lack of leadership at the top. From Bush right on down the political chain of command. If the people get sick of no results, that will help the GOP`s chances.
Goldwater wasn’t running to win in ‘64. He knew full well after the assassination that no Republican was going to win that fall, so he just “let ‘er rip.”
As for Beauprez, there was almost no Republican that would’ve won succeeding the RINO Owens (Conservatives succeeding RINOs in the Governor’s office almost never happen, Democrats almost always succeed them, better than 90% of the time), so there was little he could’ve done. Much like Dan Lungren in ‘98 in California trying to follow RINO Pete Wilson. Beauprez needs to try to get his old House seat back from Ed Pearljam. Ditto McInnis against John Salazar.
I see you're still pushing your asinine BULLoney. We've been here before, you and I. Owens is no RINO. LOL
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. Just because you can’t handle the facts and the truth, don’t jump down my throat. Colorado remains another example of RINO Gubernatorial mismanagement under Owens, and you’ve got Ritter now to run things down even further after being handed the office to him on a silver platter.
Fact #1, in 1998, the GOP held 4 out of 5 statewide offices.
Today: We hold 2 out of 5 (and just barely, at that).
Fact #2, in 1998, the GOP held both Senate seats and 4 out of 6 Congressional seats.
Today: We hold 1 Senate seat (tenuously) and barely a paltry 3 out of 7 House seats. The first time the GOP has held a minority of seats there since 1980, and the most number of rodent-held seats since 1964.
Fact #3, in 1998, we held both bodies of the legislature for well over 2-3 decades, often by wide margins. One of the most premier GOP legislative majorities in the nation where we were in the minority most everywhere else.
Today: We hold neither body and slipped even further away from majority status.
Don’t get me started on policy. The Owens legacy: losses on every front. Like I said, denial just ain’t a river in Egypt. Stop shilling for Owens, because you’re embarrassing yourself.
Oh, and BTW, “Mr. Conservative ‘Republican’”, your Colorado Springs seemed to veer rodent last November when it bounced a Black Republican State Senator in a heavily GOP seat by a shocking loss of over 20%. Care to explain why Ed Jones isn’t still in office ?
Aside from your laughing, the only other people laughing are the rodents, all the way into office on the backs of RINO incompetence. It’s a real hoot.
The truth doesn't bother me. If you review my posts on this thread, I consistently said that the GOP was asleep at the wheel in 2004, 2005 and 2006!
My bone of contention with you is over your ongoing rhetoric, in calling Bill Owens a RINO. That is absurdity of the highest order. But typical for a malcontent and disciple of kooky Rick Stanley.
Ed Jones campaign sucked and he was another bad candidate. Period. John Morse had a huge cash cow in the numerous out of state Democratic Party backed, 527 groups that sponsored his campaign and the endless attack ads. I'm sure the El Paso County GOP will work at taking Morse down and if history is any indicator, Morse won't be around long.
And who was Captain of the ship from 1998 to 2006 ? RINO Bill Owens. A Governor lives or dies by the performance of his party, and he failed on an epic scale.
"My bone of contention with you is over your ongoing rhetoric, in calling Bill Owens a RINO. That is absurdity of the highest order."
No, the truth is not an absurdity, except to those that can't handle it. There are different kinds of RINOs. RINOs in policy (i.e. Giuliani) and RINOs in sandbagging their party (i.e. Janklow of SD, Sundquist in TN, et al). Owens has the badge of the latter, and he also turned into the former while in office.
"But typical for a malcontent and disciple of kooky Rick Stanley."
I never heard of Stanley until you brought him up in the previous round. I have little use for Libertarians, and as a standard-bearer for that party, he has no vested interest in the Republican party. Most Libertarians have the nasty habit of depriving the GOP of wins in close contests, so as far as I'm concerned, they're merely helping the rodents. Just like Owens did. Like I said, you name-call other FReepers because they point that Owens was a disaster. You only make yourself look foolish for doing so.
"Ed Jones campaign sucked and he was another bad candidate. Period. John Morse had a huge cash cow in the numerous out of state Democratic Party backed, 527 groups that sponsored his campaign and the endless attack ads. I'm sure the El Paso County GOP will work at taking Morse down and if history is any indicator, Morse won't be around long."
Yeah, that's the same thing that was said when the rodents took the GOP by surprise in winning the legislature... a few cycles ago. Lo and behold, they're still there, and the state party keeps shrinking like testicles in icewater. That's another thing I disliked about Owens, he showed zilch respect to what Black GOP officeholders we had in the state. He left Vikki Buckley to twist in the wind in '98, screwed Joe Rogers, and did he lift a finger to help Jones ? Jones may have ran a sucky campaign, but in a historically GOP district for him to lose by 20% shows that Owens's leadership didn't help for crap. That's just one more seat we'll have to win back against an incumbent, an often damn hard task.
Should've run Bill Armstrong for Governor back in '98, then today we'd have had both the Senate seats, the legislature, 4 or 5 of the House seats, and a brand-spanking-new GOP Governor (probably Schaffer himself) to succeed him. Too late now.
Thanks for the ping. The last I heard was Bob saying he had not made up his mind yet. IF Bob Schafer runs, this would be a great race. He is a solid conservative who can articulate his positions and he will be able to sell himself to CO voters better than our past candidates.
Colorado politics ping!
It is interesting that he would announce in Teller County. He may have thought that it would not get reported from there ?
Apparently, there will be a formal announcement soon.
Frances and Bill Owens are still married.
No need to mention those two in the same breath.
Sinkspur was proven to be a 24K fraud. Not so with Pukin.
Have you heard Bob speak? He’s really good and passionate in his delivery. When I have heard him he seems to draw audiences in with his logic and knowledge. He will show well in debates and he will attract voters to him, more than just the base.
Sorry, I did not know. Glad the Owenses are still together.
Regarding the Senate race, I hope Schaeffer can win. It is imperative to hold the seats we currently have and perhaps gain a couple more. Though I am not too optimistic about NH and OR. Of course if Gordon Smith lost it would not be that great of a loss. Still I guess we must hold our nose and hope even the moderates win just to we can make Reid the *minority* leader again.
Yada yada yada..... RINO RINO RINO..... Owens Owens Owens
Same old s**t from you. LOL
Come back when you can have a discussion like a grown-up, otherwise don’t waste my time with your crap again.
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