WHY VOTE RON PAUL? Conservative Issues which are MORE IMPORTANT than Iraq

Ron Paul now 3rd Place on Free Republic ^ | May 4, 2007 | Orthodox Presbyterian

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

WHY VOTE RON PAUL?
Conservative Issues which are MORE IMPORTANT than Iraq:

With the recent surge of support enjoyed by United States Congressman Ron Paul in response to the first GOP Primary Debate (in terms of Viewer Reaction to the Debates, Ron Paul is now ranked Third Place on the Free Republic Poll, Third Place on the Drudge Report Poll, and First Place on the MSNBC Poll), it behooves all Conservatives to examine the Candidacy of Ron Paul and ask: as the former Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas, is Ron Paul the Right candidate to carry forward the Reagan Legacy in the new millennium?

Of course, it goes without saying that Ron Paul is the most Fiscally Conservative Candidate in the race; that he is the greatest defender of the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and indeed the entire Bill of Rights; and that he is a strong defender of the Right to Life and of US National Sovereignty -- none of that is in dispute. And it goes without saying that a "humble" foreign policy of Non-Interventionism is the traditional Conservative and Republican foreign policy, as opposed to the Liberal Interventionist policy of Nation-Building – which Conservatives have traditionally opposed.

However, given the recent ascendancy of Nation-Building "Neo-Conservatives" in the Republican ranks -- so-called "conservatives" who proclaim that Nation-Building in Iraq is utterly integral to the War on Terror and, indeed, outranks EVERY other issue in importance:

There is nothing more important than the WOT. All else takes the back seat.
67 posted on 05/03/2007 11:30:12 PM PDT by jrooney

We must ask ourselves -- is Iraq truly more important than ANY other Issue? Let us assume for a moment that Iraq IS a central front in the "War on Terror". And let us assume that being occupied by 140,000 foreign troops does NOT cause any Iraqi to consider joining the Jihadists when his wife or son or brother gets killed in an unfortunate spate of "collateral damage". And let us assume that trying to Police an Islamic Civil War while attempting to successfully engage in long-distance "Nation-Building" at the same time somehow IS even remotely Constitutional. Yes, let's assume ALL that!

The Question, then, is this: Are there any Issues which should be MORE important to Conservatives than Nation-Building in Iraq?

And the Answer... is a resounding YES.

• ABORTION: More Unborn Children in America die EVERY DAY from Abortion than all American Citizens who lost their lives in the 9/11 Attacks. source

  ABORTION is therefore FAR MORE IMPORTANT than spending Hundreds of Billions of Dollars trying to referee an Islamic Civil War in Iraq – and Ron Paul is RIGHT on Abortion. Ron Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act of 2005, recognizing the Personhood of every unborn baby and removing Abortion from the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.

• ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION: More American Citizens are Murdered EVERY YEAR by Illegal Immigrants than all American Citizens who lost their lives in the 9/11 Attacks. source

  ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is therefore MORE IMPORTANT than spending Hundreds of Billions of Dollars trying to referee an Islamic Civil War in Iraq – and Ron Paul is RIGHT on Illegal Immigration. Ron Paul voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. “Amnesty for lawbreakers is not the answer, and it’s time to rethink birthright citizenship,” Paul added. ("Paul Votes for Stronger Border Security")

• GUN CONTROL: In the 20th Century, nuclear weapons were used to kill a few hundred thousand people, whereas "gun control" was used by governments to pave the way for killing over 100,000,000 people. source

  Opposing GUN CONTROL is therefore MORE IMPORTANT than spending Hundreds of Billions of Dollars trying to referee an Islamic Civil War in Iraq – and Ron Paul is RIGHT on the Second Amendment. Ron Paul is one of only five Congressmen to have an A+ Rating from the Gun Owners of America.

• COMMUNISM: According to the MW Hodges Economic Report (endorsed by Nobel Laureate Economist Dr. Milton Friedman), the total Government Share of the US Economy (defined as total Government Spending at all levels PLUS the total cost of Regulatory Compliance) under Presidents Bill Clinton and George Bush has now significantly exceeded the Private Share of the US Economy. No wonder our workers can't compete with "Chinese Slave Labor" – even though we're much more Productive than they are, our Government is now actually more Communistic than that of the Red Chinese!
  
  Rolling Back COMMUNISM is therefore MORE IMPORTANT than spending Hundreds of Billions of Dollars trying to referee an Islamic Civil War in Iraq – and Ron Paul is RIGHT on Limited Government. Ron Paul is ranked by Human Events as the biggest Tax Cutter in all of Congress. Paul Named #1 Tax Cutter in Congress: “(Paul) is a co-sponsor… of a constitutional amendment to repeal the 16th amendment and end income, gift, and estate taxes. Regularly pushes for tax cuts. Sponsor of bills to allow tax credits for private school tuition, to permit tax deduction of college tuition, and to stop all taxation of Social Security benefits. Opposes all unconstitutional spending programs.”

ABORTION. ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. GUN CONTROL. Rolling back Domestic COMMUNISM. Taken individually, any ONE of these issues should be MORE IMPORTANT to True Conservatives than the War in Iraq. Taken as a group -- they are, together, FAR more important than the War in Iraq.

Rudy Giuliani is 100% Wrong on all of these issues -- and Ron Paul is 100% Right.

And that is why a Vote for Ron Paul is a Vote for True, Reagan-Republican Conservatism.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for Pro-Life social conservatives.

• Ron Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act of 2005, recognizing the Personhood of every unborn baby and removing Abortion from the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.
• Ron Paul is rated ZERO percent by the National Abortion Rights Action League.
• Ron Paul is an original co-sponsor of the Marriage Protection Act.
• Ron Paul voted to ban Homosexual adoption in Washington DC.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for Tax-Cutting fiscal conservatives.

• Ron Paul is ranked by Human Events as the biggest Tax Cutter in all of Congress. Paul Named #1 Tax Cutter in Congress: “(Paul) is a co-sponsor… of a constitutional amendment to repeal the 16th amendment and end income, gift, and estate taxes. Regularly pushes for tax cuts. Sponsor of bills to allow tax credits for private school tuition, to permit tax deduction of college tuition, and to stop all taxation of Social Security benefits. Opposes all unconstitutional spending programs.”
• Ron Paul has ranked in the 99th percentile of the National Taxpayer Union ratings every year he has been in Congress -- thus standing head and shoulders above his big government Republican rivals like gun-grabber John McCain, transvestite Rudy Giuliani, "Amnesty Sam" Brownback, Mike "Bill Clinton embodies the American Dream" Huckabee, and Pork-Barrel King Duncan Hunter.

RON PAUL is the ONLY 100% Anti-Terrorist candidate.

• The ruling government of Iraq is dominated by the psychopathic gang of murderers known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Islamic Al Dawa Party, who are the very same Islamic Terrorist Parties which bombed the US & French Embassies in Kuwait, and murdered 241 United States Marines in Beirut in 1983. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, of the Al Dawa Party, was the Bureau Chief of the Al Dawa Party's terrorist "Jihad Office" in Damascus in the 1980s and was thus heavily responsible for Al Dawa operations in Beirut, while parliament member Jamal Jafaar Mohammed of his ruling coalition is one of the "Kuwait 17", still under a Kuwaiti death sentence (in absentia) for his direct involvement in the vicious attack on the US Embassy in Kuwait! Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate calling for an immediate END to all Military and Financial support for the criminal Islamic Terrorist thug-regime of Iraq.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for National Defense and Foreign Affairs.

• Ron Paul voted for the National Missile Defense Act. (source)
• Ron Paul is one of only two co-sponsors of H. Res. 123, for the establishment of a Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to "conduct a full investigation of all unresolved matters relating to any United States personnel unaccounted for from the Vietnam era, the Korean conflict, World War II, Cold War Missions, or Gulf War, including MIA's and POW's." (POW-MIA InterNetwork)
• Ron Paul supports a strengthened Coast Guard and increased port security, and increased benefits for veterans.
• Ron Paul advocates United States withdrawal from the United Nations and withdrawal from the World Trade Organization. Says Ron Paul: "We don’t need CAFTA or any other international agreement to reap the economic benefits promised by CAFTA supporters, we only need to change our own harmful economic and tax policies. Let the rest of the world hurt their citizens with tariffs; if we simply reduce tariffs and taxes at home, we will attract capital and see our economy flourish." (source).
• "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." --U.S. President Ronald Reagan

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate for the Bill of Rights.

• "Congress Unanimously Supports Paul Amendment to Protect Civil Liberties"
• Ron Paul is one of only five Congressmen to have an A+ Rating from the Gun Owners of America.
• Ron Paul Denounces National ID Card.

RON PAUL is the RIGHT Candidate on Illegal Immigration.

• Ron Paul voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006. “Amnesty for lawbreakers is not the answer, and it’s time to rethink birthright citizenship,” Paul added. ("Paul Votes for Stronger Border Security")
• Ron Paul is a co-sponsor of HR 487, which "expresses the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a NAFTA superhighway or enter into any plans to create a North American Union between Canada, the U.S., and Mexico."
• "We need to allocate far more resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase." – Ron Paul (source)

RON PAUL is the ONLY socially-conservative Candidate defending the independence of the Christian Church against Federal "Faith-Based Socialism".

• "Government funding of religious organizations will transform them into adjuncts of the federal welfare state, more concerned about obeying federal rules and regulations than fulfilling the obligations of their faith." – Ron Paul (source). Every other so-called "social conservative" candidate actually FAVORS this underhanded Orwellian Federal assault on the Freedom of the Christian Church.

"I got to know President Reagan in 1976 when, as a freshman congressman, I was one of only four members of that body to endorse then-Governor Reagan’s primary challenge to President Gerald Ford. I had the privilege of serving as the leader of President Reagan’s Texas delegation at the Republican convention of 1976, where Ronald Reagan almost defeated an incumbent president for his party’s nomination. I was one of the millions attracted to Ronald Reagan by his strong support for limited government and the free-market. I felt affinity for a politician who based his conservative philosophy on '...a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom.' I wish more of today’s conservative leaders based their philosophy on a desire for less government and more freedom." – Ron Paul, Remembering Ronald Reagan

In 2008, I'm voting for the REAGAN REPUBLICAN. I'm voting for former Vietnam Combat Flight Surgeon, and Leader of Ronald Reagan's Electoral Delegation from Texas: In 2008, I'm Voting for RON PAUL!

"The greatest champion of conservative principles we have seen in Congress in the past quarter century."
(David T. Pyne, Esq., Vice President of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies)

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Post-Debate Analysis, courtesy of OP.

[Verax]

[bert]

He is probably unelectable.

[SolidWood]

There is no more important issue than the War on Terror (including Iraq). Paul is dead wrong on this. Period.
Everyone calling (rightfully) the Democrats in Congress traitors, should hold Paul to the same standard. He is a defeatist and voted for our SURRENDER.
Where is the difference to cowards like Hagel?

He is not the second Reagan you want to sell us.
Nice attempt though.

[raybbr]

There is no more important issue than the War on Terror (including Iraq). Paul is dead wrong on this. Period.

That's a very myopic view. While I consider the war on terror important clearly there are other pressing issues that Bush has simply ignored. We need a president that can put his focus on all issues not just one.

[jennyjenny]

Right on!

[Just mythoughts]

Nation building???? Seems to me what Iraq today is terrorist hunting ground central, and who we are fighting are those sent in from the area neighbors, say like Iran and Syria.

Mr. Paul seems to not be aware that the enemy of this planet meaning US prefers to use living breathing children as their choice method of slaughter in their uncivilized quest to wipe US out. To ignore this does call into question what ‘sanctity of life’ really means.

I heard nothing out of Mr. Paul in how he would prevent that uncivilized warfare from becoming as common on my local nightly news as the drive-by’s, and gang-bangers have already made so many of our inner cities.

[billybudd]

Ron Paul: the Ralph Nader of the Right.

[Chi-townChief]

I voted for Paul for prez in ‘88 but I won’t make that mistake again. He blew it by lining up with the rats against the War on Terror and probably would domestically as well, given half a chance.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

There is no more important issue than the War on Terror (including Iraq). Paul is dead wrong on this. Period. Everyone calling (rightfully) the Democrats in Congress traitors, should hold Paul to the same standard. He is a defeatist and voted for our SURRENDER. Where is the difference to cowards like Hagel? He is not the second Reagan you want to sell us. Nice attempt though.

You are dead, DEAD wrong.

Abortion ALONE is FAR more important than the War in Iraq. More Unborn Children in America die EVERY DAY from Abortion than all American Citizens who lost their lives in the 9/11 Attacks.

True Conservatives care about Unborn Children. Perhaps you're not a True Conservative at all -- just a Liberal Interventionist Nation-Builder.

And, on the numbers, Illegal Immigration, Gun Control, and Domestic Communism are FAR more important also. Abortion is just the tip of the iceberg.

[GrandEagle]

I could easily vote Ron Paul.
I doubt if he will make it far in the primaries just because he doesn't present himself very well.
IF he ever made it to the nomination, I believe he could easily defeat the Dems.

[elizabetty]

Probably?

He is a lunatic.

[true_blue_texican]

You win the Understatement of the Year Award!!!
Congratulations!

[true_blue_texican]

Ron Paul: the Ralph Nader of the Right.

That is exactly what I was thinking!!!

[elizabetty]

You do know that most people who vote on MSNBC polls are rabid leftists, right?

Spend a moment looking at the results of their other polls.

[OCCASparky]

Probably? Try DEFINITELY. He’ll never make it past South Carolina, if that far. He’s a Pat Paulsen candidate.

[cripplecreek]

I like some of Ron Paul’s positions on constitutional issues but people who are getting excited about poll numbers pumped up by moonbats really need to get a grip.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I voted for Paul for prez in ‘88 but I won’t make that mistake again. He blew it by lining up with the rats against the War on Terror and probably would domestically as well, given half a chance.

There are many, MANY issues which are and should be more important to True Conservatives than the Nation-Building Adventure in Iraq.

Abortion alone kills more Unborn Children EVERY DAY than the total of all Americans killed on 9/11.

We need a President who cares about True Conservative issues, not some New York Liberal whose ONLY claim to "Conservatism" is his support for Liberal Interventionist Nation-Building 7,000 miles away.

[Flintlock]

Iffen we lose to the Muzzies..............
NOTHING else will be worth a tinker’s damn.

[mathluv]

If we don’t win the WOT, nothing else will matter.

[Egon]

Ron Paul is right on the majority of his positions— with the notable exception of foreign policy. On that, he is fatally wrong.

That said, if he gets the nomination, I will vote for him.

If Guliani gets the nomination, I will not be casting a vote for President.

In the meantime, I’ll be putting my time and energy toward the other candidate the agrees with the vast majority of Paul’s positions, and is correct on foreign policy: Fred Thompson.

[11th_VA]

He is probably unelectable.

After listening to C-SPAN this morning, I don't think so. ALOT of leftists agree with him on doing away with NAFTA - Something none of the Democratic candidates even talk about. He will get a sizable crossover vote.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Iffen we lose to the Muzzies.............. NOTHING else will be worth a tinker’s damn.

Iffen we're not over there... the Sunnis and Shi'ites will be more concerned with killing eachother (Heck, they're awfully enthusiastic for killing eachother now).

[mathluv]

And if the Islamists win the WOT, there will be no abortions - too many people will be beheaded instead.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

In the meantime, I’ll be putting my time and energy toward the other candidate the agrees with the vast majority of Paul’s positions, and is correct on foreign policy: Fred Thompson.

I've always liked Fred in the movies.

Lemme know if he runs, it'll be interesting.

But, fact is -- right now, he ain't.

[noname07718]

I hear the term RINO often enough. What do you call a Republican who wants to join the surrender monkeys (Democrat)? I know that this last sentence may get me a reprimand, but I’m still for Rudy.

[petercooper]

bttt

[Egon]

Iffen we're not over there... the Sunnis and Shi'ites will be more concerned with killing eachother (Heck, they're awfully enthusiastic for killing eachother now).

And there is the fatal flaw to your argument. That is simply not true. They'll be over here, or in other Western countries. History has proved that out.

[Egon]

But, fact is -- right now, he ain't.

Sure he is. He's just not spending money. He's running the smart way.

[noname07718]

Abortion is not threatening me and my family nor does it threaten my way of life. If we lose the WOT we lose our way of life. It is that simple.

[ArkansasBushfan]

If Ron Paul is the Republican candidate for President I will not vote.

[Jeremydmccann]

Ron Paul clearly stood out last night as the only candidate, the only candidate in decades I might ad, who actually believs in America, her sovereignty and her Constitution. What a disgrace listening to all the other candidates and their un-constitutional plans. I don’t understand how anyone can vote for someone who promises to lack total fidelity to the constitution even before taking office. By the Grace of God, Paul will be the next President of the US and change this pro-sodomite, pro-abort, unconstitutional government around. Thereby changing peoples minds, hearts, souls and placing the country back under the protection of Christ.

[newnhdad]

My wife kept asking who was that angry guy Ron Paul?, I told her “nobody really, just ignore him”..

[oakcon]

Oh wait - we were PROBABLY over there when 9/11 happened right?

/extreme sarc

[Moonmad27]

I’ll vote for whoever is finally nominated by the GOP. I’m not about to help Hillary be president the way I helped her husband win by my protest vote for Perot.

[raybbr]

If we don’t win the WOT, nothing else will matter.

And, if we don't start to focus on domestic issues that are eating us alive the WOT won't matter.

[LonePalm]

No! No! No!

Social issues are NOT more important than the war on terror and Iraq is the central front in the war on terror.

Failing to understand this is an automatic disqualifier for POTUS.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[SolidWood]

You are dead, DEAD wrong.

Ya think? At least since 9/11 I'd say I'm spot on.

Abortion ALONE is FAR more important than the War in Iraq. More Unborn Children in America die EVERY DAY from Abortion than all American Citizens who lost their lives in the 9/11 Attacks.

I don't have to vote for Paul to get a pro-life candidate. There are conservative alternatives that are pro-life and pro-Victory. I want both. I have no interest in terrorists obtaining nukes or other WMDs or attacking and killing our citizens. I also have no interest of Middle Eastern madmen threatening our vital interests.

True Conservatives care about Unborn Children. Perhaps you're not a True Conservative at all -- just a Liberal Interventionist Nation-Builder.

Drop the name-calling. I am pro-life and share every social conservative view. I also support strong foreign policy and interventionalism and the stuff one calls "neoconservatism" with the difference that I wasn't a liberal before. These issues are not mutually exclusive.

And, on the numbers, Illegal Immigration, Gun Control, and Domestic Communism are FAR more important also. Abortion is just the tip of the iceberg.

There is a candidate named Duncan Hunter. He is right on all the issues you mentioned. And he is pro-Victory. No need for defeatist cowards like Ron Paul.

[Neville72]

Ron Paul= the Republicans’ David Koresh

[saveliberty]

Exactly, mathluv.

Ron Paul has been around a long time. He’s run a national campaign under the libertarian ticket. I know because I’d gone to hear him at Faneuil Hall.

This is not ‘88. This is a fight to defend western civilization. He is free to advocate a position of giving up the will to have liberty and life, but it’s a hard sell to the rest of us.

There are two basic sets of libertarians- one is neo isolationist, as Ron Paul is, and the other is pro defense, as Glenn Reynolds is. LOL I like Glenn and his blog very much, but I couldn’t ever vote for him.

Cheers,

sl

[LegendHasIt]

I too voted for Ron Paul in 1988... even volunteered to work on his campaign.

Today, I wouldn’t vote for him for anything higher than City Council or County Commissioner.

It is the lefty, anti-war crowd that are loading the polls for your guy.

He may be a good Constitutionalist, but he is neither a Conservative, nor a realist.

[noname07718]

One of the most sensible completion of the first line in the argument/debate. We need a cleaning of our domestic house while we fight the WOT. A two front war.

[saveliberty]

Thank you, Lone Palm

Cheers,

sl

[rod1]

Yep. As a conservative and native Texan working out of state, I view Paul and Murtha as two peas in in the same pod. Its hard to worry much about Paul’s other positions when he would be allowing the Sharia Muzzies to chop all our heads off. Maybe he and Murtha can form an appeasement ticket.

[Egon]

I’ll vote for whoever is finally nominated by the GOP. I’m not about to help Hillary be president the way I helped her husband win by my protest vote for Perot.

I too made that mistake, although mine wasn't so much a protest vote as the belief that we needed someone with some plain-talking business sense in charge.

However, I simply cannot vote for someone who is pro-abortion, pro-illegal immigration, and anti-self-defense. Just can't do it.

Even if I could, it basically continues the Republican slide. Short-term, it keeps Hillary out of the White House. Long term, it puts more Leftist Republicans in office.

[Verax]

#12

he doesn't present himself very well

That's your opinion, but you're in the extreme minority with it.

He was highly favored in the MSNBC poll after tonight's debate...after being a virtual UNKNOWN going into it. Not the kind of response generated by someone who "doesn't present himself well."

[jveritas]

He is 100% unelectable. If the democrats run the wost candidates in history, he or she will beat Ron Paul. The guy is a lunatic and a defeatist.

Anyway, we should not worry about this because Ron Paul will be ranking among the last three in the Republican primaries.

[LonePalm]

You're welcome. Have a bumper sticker.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[WhiteGuy]

Thanks for the ping,

Bump for real American Values