Posted on 04/27/2007 5:41:02 PM PDT by jdm
Two dangerous Libyan terror suspects will be freed to walk Britain's streets after the Home Office's attempts to deport them were thrown out by senior judges yesterday.John Reid is trying to send the men home to using a controversial "memorandum of understanding" - by which Colonel Gadaffi's government promised not to torture or kill them on their return.
The aim was to overcome objections to their removal to Libya on human rights grounds.
But yesterday the Special Immigration Appeals Commission [SIAC] in London ruled that the Libyan government could not be trusted and blocked the deportation order, despite a mass of evidence of the threat they pose to national security.
The move struck a damaging and embarrassing blow to the Government's entire counter-terrorist strategy and means other Libyan terror suspects currently in detention in the UK may also have to be released.
One of the suspects, identified only as "DD", set up an extremist Islamic website which praised martyrdom and is related to convicted and dead terrorists.
He was caught with a streetmap on which footpaths underneath the approach flight path to Birmingham International Airport had been highlighted.
Judges concluded that he is a "real and direct threat to the national security of the UK" and a "global jihadist with links to the Taliban and al Qaeda."
The other man, known as AS, was described as a "senior member" in a terrorist group thought to have planned attacks in Europe and as "a clear danger to national security."
Despite the threat they pose, SIAC yesterday upheld their appeals against deportation.
Both men are expected to be freed on bail next week - overruling Home Office objections - with strict conditions including 12 curfews at their home addresses.
The court's chairman Mr Justice Ouseley ruled that their human rights could be breached if they were sent home to Libya, even though it was "not a probable risk", and that they could be denied a fair trial.
He said the only monitoring arrangements relied on an organisation run by Col Gadaffi's own son ensuring that the men were not mistreated.
The Home Office has signed Memoranda of Understanding (MOUs) with Libya, Jordan and Lebanon - and reached a similar deal with Algeria - in the hope of deporting foreign terror suspects to countries with questionable human rights records where there is not enough evidence to prosecute them in Britain.
Human rights campaigners claim the deals are not worth the paper they are printed on. Some two dozen suspects are currently held awaiting removal, including Abu Qatada who faces deportation to Jordan.
But a string of legal appeals mean none have so far been sent home and yesterday's ruling raises grave questions over the entire strategy.
The Home Office voiced its disappointment and announced plans to appeal last night, although SIAC judges described their chances of success as "scant."
Civil rights campaigners urged ministers to reconsider the whole principle of MOU deals with Islamic states.
Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said: "The Government should concentrate on eradicating the practice of torture, not extracting incredible paper promises."
Amnesty International UK director Kate Allen said: "Britain should not be trying to cut deals with torturers. If people are suspected of committing a crime, they should be charged and put on trial."
Scary stuff... and they're now free men.
Things are about to spin out of control.
We have nations full of sympathisers/wussies who want to give away their own lives and the lives of their countrymen for what?....
Sanddabs who can make them feel less guilty about their success?
I am ready to throw in the towel, this PC world is not based in reality any longer..we are all dressed “in the Emperor’s New Clothes!
Does the “Special Immigration Appeals Commission” have authority in matters of national security in Britain? This seems a bit too much authority without accountability in national security matters, imo.
Does the EU have anything to do with immigration appeals in member countries? Isolation is seeming pretty attractive lately.
If I were a EU member state, I would be very, very uneasy about granting extensive legislative and executive powers over member states to an "EU."
Whatever happened to “preventive detention”?
The PC left has eviserated internal security and the Brits are becoming craven cowards and appeasers. Churchill is spinning in his grave.
>The PC left has eviserated internal security and the Brits are becoming craven cowards and appeasers Churchill is spinning in his grave.<
The Brit schools have probably not taught any Churchillian writings, or world history of the early to mid 20th centrury in their schools. Same as in America. Dumbing down makes the takeover that much easier.
If the Eu has legislative, executive, and judicial power and authority, it would be a country in and of itself, with all the member countries as States.
That would be a neat trick - a bloodless conquest by... ?
Difficult to argue with that conclusion.
This type of stuff would be happening here if the Dems had their way with the terrorists at Club Gitmo.
It's sad that an attack on our own leadership (the Dems) could be seen as a defense of the nation against an enemy within.
Would make for a good movie, in any case.
...by french and germans...what hitler and napoleon failed to do.
All the more reason to secure Iraq and the rest of the Middle East on the side of sanity, freedom, and democracy.
It seems the Germans are heading the way of France too.
An all out american civil war in this day and age would be the end of america. The world would not stand by as spectators. The world would be licking their chops in glee contemplating which pieces to grab for themselves. China, Russia, the EU, and Mexico would be top contenders.
ping
Germany is new turkey.
Considerations of how to keep one from taking place, and considerations of how to contain it if it does take place, and how to prepare for the outcome. What are the possible outcomes - like those you mentioned - in terms of increasing or decreasing probabilities.
It seems to me that all it would take is one well-placed sniper bullet from either a lunatic liberal or a frustrated conservative to spark it off.
Or I could just be a prime candidate for the tin-foil hat brigade.
What they didn’t count on was the american military. The american military quickly purged itself of lefties and UN sympathizers and then went underground. Unknown to the world, the pentagon and NASA had been working on space warfare...and had perfected it. All the world's orbiting communication and military satellites were immediately taken over or destroyed. Soon after, the entire worlds missile silos and much of air traffic ceased to exist. US military assets were now able to hide in remote areas. It became a chess match on the oceans...an underground US military vs the world. Families of the US military had to be evacuated from america and went into hiding on the oceans. They quit calling themselves “US military” and started calling themselves “rogue eagles”. They existed by piracy and a technological advantage coming from controlling the only operating satellite communications and truly massive air superiority. Their longterm goal was to neutralize the UN and liberate america. They slowly began recruiting rogue eagle sympathizers from all over the world.
When the UN began to lose ground, they hatched a truely evil plan to trap the rogue eagles and exterminate them. They planned an all out assault on israel to lure the rogue eagles to israel's defense. They let it be known to the rogue eagles that their intent was to kill every jewish human being. The muslims were shrieking in orgasmic delight.
Then I woke up.

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