Posted on 04/27/2007 5:00:16 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Did you get the feeling last night that Brian Williams shunned Mike Gravel after he gave his Howard Beale type answers thus embarrassing everybody there? Actually I enjoyed Gravel because he let it ALL hang out. He actually is the voice of the loony left even exceeding Dennis Kookcinich. However, the shunning of him by Williams was unfair. It is not up to Williams nor MSNBC to decide that he can't answer as many questions as the other candidates. Even Gravel angrily referred to this shunning by proclaiming how he was being treated like a potted plant.
As final proof of MSNBC inappropriately writing off Mike Gravel, check their own WEBSITE. All of candidates' websites are listed there EXCEPT for that of Mike Gravel. Sorry, MSNBC, but it is not up to you to decide who is a viable candidate or not. It will be interesting to see if Gravel will be invited back to future MSNBC candidate debates but I won't be holding my breath on this.
He’s a moonbat
Most famous “potted plant” incident award goes to Brendan Sullivan who represented Ollie North during the Iran-Contra hearings.
The best exchange was a spat between Carvile and Huff over Hillary. Carville accused her of attacking Hillary with every commetn she made. Huffington replied that she was "proud to have a female in the senate..I just don't think that she should be the nominee for President."
BTW..who won on DU and KOS?
Humor aside, I think this is a scary situation. A news organization decides to toss a candidate out of contention because they are uncomfortable with him. If they can do it to Gravel, they can do it to conservative candidates in the future. Of course, they already try to undermine conservative candidates by other means.
DU and KOS only has losers...
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LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
What were MSNBCs minimum requirements to be invited? Usually the candidates must reach a certain percentage in polls and/or donations.
I don’t know their requirements but once invited it is not up to them to refuse to ask him questions on the podium. He by far was asked the fewest questions after his first answer. Gravel should have protested by just leaving the podium and sitting in the audience since he wasn’t really being allowed to participate.
We need to print up signs for the next debate if Mike Gravel isn’t invited. The signs would say: “FREE THE POTTED PLANT!!!”
I will continue my boycott of MSNBC.
I hope to see those signs at the site of the next debate if Mike Gravel is NOT invited.
If Chuck Hagel decides to throw his hat in the ring, we’ll have the opposite situation as MSNBC will only advertise his website.
Maybe Chuck Hagel will run as a third party candidate with Mike Gravel as his Veep aka Bride of Chucky.
Who cares about Gravel or Kucinich for that matter? There were only four real candidates [Hillary, Obama, Edwards, and Richardson] who have any shot at all for the nomination. And that number is really just two, Hillary and Obama. This is really just a coronation for Hillary. The MSM has manufactured and hyped the Obama candidacy, the token blck candidate, to create some interest. The rest of them are just auditioning for VP.
Trust me, Mike Gravel is NOT auditioning for VP. The point is, no matter how lousy his chances, it is NOT up to MSNBC to decide who should be the viable candidates.
I find your concern for Gravel to be curious. Yes, it is entertaining to listen to his disjointed,"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore" Howard Beale, ranting and raving, but he is not a serious candidate by anyone's measure. He just takes up air time. I would put Kucinich in the same category.

A movement of one. It is time to pot the plant.
Right now it is sitting at 503 votes nationwide.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Karl Marx has a line in his short book The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon to the effect that everything in history happens twice, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce (which he claims to be taken from Hegel, but it isn't). The 'Rats are still reliving the glory years of the defeat in Vietnam and the hounding of Nixon from office, so they want to repeat that with Iraq and GWB.
Mike Gravel should make the Potted Plant his symbol. At all campaign appearances he should place a large potted plant on stage with him to demonstrate how MSNBC has shunned him. So far, little attention has been paid to him. However, with the Potted Plant shtick, I think he could get some great publicity from this.
You should sign on as his campaign advisor.
I am now recommending that Mike Gravel make the Potted Plant his symbol of protest of his mistreatment by MSNBC. At all campaign appearances, he should place a potted plant on stage with him.

You said, “The MSM has manufactured and hyped the Obama candidacy, the token blck candidate, to create some interest. You mean after they manufactured and hyped the Hillary candidacyy for years, before?
Gravel is sure going to get paved over once the voting begins.
You must be wrong.....MSNBC is so much more fair and balanced than the horrible FOX! /s
They do it to placate their various fringe constituencies, which are becoming less fringe and more mainstream.
Karl Marx has a line in his short book The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon to the effect that everything in history happens twice, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce (which he claims to be taken from Hegel, but it isn't). The 'Rats are still reliving the glory years of the defeat in Vietnam and the hounding of Nixon from office, so they want to repeat that with Iraq and GWB.
They are using the same template. They have already done terrible damage with the passage of the bill announcing to the enemy that we will be withdrawing on a date certain and the war is lost. The enemy, the Iraqi government and people, and the countries in the region are watching closely. And to use the words of that "great patriot" JF**King Kerry, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? Congress has sent a devastating message to our troops in the field, i.e., your sacrifice has been in vain, you are a defeated military, and any future death/injury prior to our total withdrawal will be worthless and unnecessary.
Both sides are now playing chicken with the funding bill and the Dems hold the upper hand. Bush will not get a clean funding bill. The WH and Congress will have to make face-saving compromises on both sides so each can claim victory. However, the damage is done.
I never even knew of his existence until the debate last night. It was actually refreshing seeing liberal democrat that was at least honest with us about who he was and what he stood for. lol
Vilsack has thrown his “considerable” support to Hillary.
Vilsack wears the Bear and Hillary wears the Stare.
Ah yes!
I recall well the Network flik, and Howard’s speech...
http://tinyurl.com/2ty9ob
http://tinyurl.com/2ty9ob
Obama is the Howard Dean of 2008. It will only take a few primary results for Hillary to squash him.
There is always the chance that Vilsack could end up as Hillary’s VP choice—the more obvious picks have negative baggage (Richardson) or would outshine her (Obama), plus she may decide she needs a non-Hispanic white male on the ticket, and Vilsack would probably help carry Iowa and perhaps Wisconsin and Minnesota, all of which have been won by narrow margins in recent elections.
Gravel is the comic relief. The court jester for the Queen [Hillary] and her court.
By January 2008 the Democrat primary voters may think of Obama as a blend of Marion Barry and Simon Legree, thanks to behind-the-scene work from the Hillary camp which everyone will blame on the nasty Republicans.
Possibly. The only reason to pick Obama would be to increase black turnout. Hillary already has the black vote locked up. Richardson has some baggage, but he has some national recognition, is Hispanic [the largest and fastest growing minority], and foreign policy experience. He adds “gravitas” to the ticket. I can’t stomach Richardson for his recent touring of the USS Pueblo so as not to offend his North Korean hosts. He is also an insufferable windbag.
That and the fact that this guy has a non-existent resume to be President of the United States. There is no there there.
The DUmmies probably love this guy. DUFU fodder?
No, Mike isn’t a legitimate candidate. MSNBC has no duty to cater to candidates who have no chance at even minor success.
That’s storybook man.
“Hes a moonbat”
Now THAT’S an understatement. LOL. I lived in Alaska from 74 to 04. He was in politics in Alaska and D.C from 63 to 81. I was young and generally uninterested in politics, however, I do seem to recall a idea he had to spend pipeline money covering Anchorage with a dome. I wish I could find a record of this as I am sure it is not my imagination or aging memory. He was considered a moonbat even by Alaska standards, which are pretty tolerant of somewhat nutty behavior. You have to be WAY out there to have Alaskans say “Hey, wait a minute...”. While I am generally in favor of anyone running for office, when it comes to debates someone polling 1 or two percent is just taking up valuable time & space. And crazy Mike certainly falls into that area.
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