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Blaming Charlton Heston (EUROPEAN PRESS REACTIONS)
Drudge ^ | April 17, 2007

Posted on 04/17/2007 7:27:54 AM PDT by woofie

With a view to Monday's deadly shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, European newspapers are blaming the lack of gun control measures in the United States and implying that Charlton Heston is indirectly responsible for the scope of the killings.

Across the continent on Tuesday, European media rubber-neck at Monday's massacre in the United States. Most seem to agree about one thing: The shooting at Virginia Tech is the result of America's woeful lack of serious gun control laws. In the strongest editorialized image of the day, German cable news broadcaster NTV flashed an image of the former head of the National Rifle Association, the US gun lobby: In other words, blame rifle-wielding Charlton Heston for the 33 dead.

Papers reserve their sharpest criticism for the 2004 expiration of a 10-year ban on semi-automatic weapons under the then Republican-controlled Congress. Others comment on the pro-gun lobbying activities of Heston's NRA. Some papers also draw analogies between school shootings and Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers.

British daily The Independent writes:

"The passionate feelings of the gun lobby may be traced to the Second Amendment of the US Constitution, enshrining 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms'. Although the provision stems from the times when 'well regulated militias' were deemed necessary to protect against a British attempt to regain the lost colonies, it is the default position of any argument against greater gun control here."

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: heston; press

1 posted on 04/17/2007 7:27:55 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

In America, "buying a machine gun is often easier than getting a driver's license."

Note: this article is from Der Spiegal Online and is also on Drudge

2 posted on 04/17/2007 7:30:59 AM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie
SAME ON THEM!

Heston is a good man. How dare they show their stupidly with such outlandish nonsense. Heston is not able to defend himself but hopefully others will - with FACTS, not FEELINGS. States with carry laws have a LOWER CRIME RATE and in part THANKS to HESTON. FEELINGS are NOT FACTS.

3 posted on 04/17/2007 7:31:14 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: woofie
SHAME ON THEM!

Heston is a good man. How dare they show their stupidly with such outlandish nonsense. Heston is not able to defend himself but hopefully others will - with FACTS, not FEELINGS. States with carry laws have a LOWER CRIME RATE and in part THANKS to HESTON. FEELINGS are NOT FACTS.

4 posted on 04/17/2007 7:31:22 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: woofie
10-year ban on semi-automatic weapons

I must have missed that ban.
5 posted on 04/17/2007 7:32:10 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: woofie

Headline error

Blaming Charlton Heston (EUROPEAN PRESS REACTIONS)

Blaming Charlton Heston (EURARABIA PRESS REACTIONS)


6 posted on 04/17/2007 7:33:13 AM PDT by JayAr36 (No Party, just a Conservative.)
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To: woofie
Thank Drudge for giving morons equal time. Maybe Imus was fired because he knew the shooting was planned and NRA wanted to get rid of him before he tipped anyone off.
7 posted on 04/17/2007 7:33:57 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: woofie
the provision stems from the times when 'well regulated militias' were deemed necessary to protect against a British attempt to regain the lost colonies

That's not exactly right.

8 posted on 04/17/2007 7:34:02 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: woofie

Prejudice. Analysis before the disclosure of facts is worthless.


9 posted on 04/17/2007 7:34:40 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: woofie

It’s the media’s fault. These guys do it for the publicity and notareity. We’ve always had guns in this country. The problem of shooting sprees is a relatively new one, that has pretty much tracked the growth of the instantaneous media.


10 posted on 04/17/2007 7:35:01 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: woofie

They blame Americans for the bombings in the middle east as well.

To some, it is always our fault.


11 posted on 04/17/2007 7:36:01 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: woofie
Well, actually, if they had listened to Charlton Heston, then one of the other students would have taken out the perp and the death toll would have been far, far less.
The very REASON that the victims were in a position of being trapped is because the school listened to these quacks.
12 posted on 04/17/2007 7:38:19 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: woofie
Dear Germany,

Don't come crying to us when the weapons-touting Muslims take over your precious country and immediately begin beheading your unarmed dhimmi citizens.

13 posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:16 AM PDT by kromike
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To: woofie
Isn't it interesting that the high crime rates in Eurabia stem directly from the gun control laws they have enacted. Banning guns means law-abiding good citizens cannot defend themselves from law-breaking bad guys, who thumb their noses at "gun bans." A good guy with a gun could stop a bad guy BEFORE 32 innocent victims were slaughtered. Do they really not understand that?
14 posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:40 AM PDT by shezza (God bless our heroes)
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To: woofie

Oh for God’s sake, they need to leave Chuck alone.

They are being overrun by Muslims, and speak from a pathetic, dhimmi position.


15 posted on 04/17/2007 7:40:05 AM PDT by indylindy (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: woofie
(1) The stupid ban on semiautomatic so-called "assault" rifles has no bearing on either the 9mm pistol or the .22 pistol the murderer apparently used.

(2) The stupid ban on carrying concealed weapons on campus has a direct bearing on the mass murder: VA Tech forbade its students and employees to defend themselves.

(3) When Europeans can guarantee that they are no longer in the business of liquidating entire races of people when the mood strikes their leaders, then they can discuss why a foreign citizen murdered Americans on that campus.

16 posted on 04/17/2007 7:42:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: woofie

If the Jewish/Israeli professor (the holocaust survivor who blocked the door to save his students) had a Concealed Carry Permit (and could have taken his weapon into the so-called “gun free zone”) the body count would have been three: the first two victims, and the shooter.

Discuss.


17 posted on 04/17/2007 7:42:58 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: woofie
The shooting at Virginia Tech is the result of America's woeful lack of serious gun control laws.

Nazis loved gun control... Registration -- the Nazi Paradigm

18 posted on 04/17/2007 7:43:34 AM PDT by syriacus (Congress should debrief Pelosi as they would any US diplomat who met with a foreign leader.)
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To: woofie
In America, "buying a machine gun is often easier than getting a driver's license."

I have never had to wait four months for my driver's license.

I have never had to submit, in duplicate, an ATF FORM 4 to the NFA Branch to get my driver's license

I have never had to submit, in duplicate, FBI Fingerprint cards to get my driver's license,

I have never had to submit, in duplicate, passport photos of myself to get my driver's license,

I have never had to submit to a $200 or %5.00 tax every time I bought, traded, sold, transfered a car to get my driver's license,

I have never had to wait four months for a background check to get a driver's license,

I have never had to set an appointment with my Chief Law Enforcement to get his "approval" to get my driver's license,

I have never had to buy a multi-thousand dollar security system and monitoring to get my driver's license,

I only wish that buying a machine gun was a easy as getting a driver's license.

19 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:24 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: woofie

To paraphrase esteemed freeper “dead”

America suffers from a terrible lack of fatal soccer riots. Thus, we have no choice but to occassionally pick up a weapon and blow off steam.

That, and, unlike Germany, there has been no official, government-run, genocide program in recent generations in America. That leaves a terrible lack of unguided anger that could have been put to use in offiicial channels.


20 posted on 04/17/2007 7:45:51 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: shezza
A good guy with a gun could stop a bad guy BEFORE 32 innocent victims were slaughtered.

Even the mere fear that someone might be armed could stop murderers.

21 posted on 04/17/2007 7:45:57 AM PDT by syriacus (Congress should debrief Pelosi as they would any US diplomat who met with a foreign leader.)
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To: woofie

europeans need to concentrate on running their own continent, their own european union, and keep their opinions on our stuff to themselves. Nobody here cares what they think about anything, particularly stuff that takes place in the US. I find it particularly offensive that they should state opinions on Charleton Heston. They are completely irrelevant and likely to remain so. Every time they get their tails in cracks, they have to be bailed out - for which they have not the grace to be grateful; they are overtaken by moslems by their own doing and have no clue how to remedy this, and on and on. I hope at least one of them is reading this and can remember it long enough to tell another of his kind. GEEZ!


22 posted on 04/17/2007 7:48:09 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: woofie
F**k Europe! They don’t have the moral authority, or any other kind of justification to lecture us. Its precisely because of our Freedoms, specifically the right to own and bear arms, that has kept us the Free-est nation in the history of this planet. Anyone who can’t grasp that fact, needs to move to Europe.
23 posted on 04/17/2007 7:48:58 AM PDT by Msgt USMC (Lead, follow, or get the heck outta the way!)
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To: GrandEagle

Roll on, GrandEagle. 100% right, and I have been saying that to anyone who would listen ever since I first heard about this - and before this, too, but particularly now. Thank you for your post.


24 posted on 04/17/2007 7:50:23 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: edcoil
I don’t own a gun and probably never will but to be lectured from a continent that gave us two world wars and the Holocaust I take umbrage. These sanctimonious bastards for decades sat smugly dissing us as our arms build up kept their pathetic existence safe from the advancement of the Soviet Union. It will be our development of star wars technology that will help protect them from incoming war heads. They diss us about the middle east strife yet they are the very ones who colonized the area and created countries that didn’t exist Lebanon, Iraq, and yes even Israel. Yes the Euroweenies have quit a history of using us to protect them rebuild them but no history of gratefulness. They are weak godless and immoral and can go to hell.
25 posted on 04/17/2007 7:51:31 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: Msgt USMC

God, you have a way with words! Excellent!


26 posted on 04/17/2007 7:51:43 AM PDT by twonie (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT '08. THERE - A COMMITMENT OUT LOUD.)
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To: syriacus
France could use a few vacation control laws, to make sure thousands of elderly folks aren't killed by the summer heat while the children they raised are enjoying themselves at a distance.
27 posted on 04/17/2007 7:53:16 AM PDT by syriacus (Congress should debrief Pelosi as they would any US diplomat who met with a foreign leader.)
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To: All
Here is a quote from the below FR thread.

"I think the reason it happens in America is there's access to weapons -- you can go into a supermarket and get powerful automatic weapons," Keith Ashcroft, a psychologist, told the Press Association.

Shock, Sympathy And Denunciation Of U.S. Gun Laws (British Asks, What Price the Right to Bear Arms?)

28 posted on 04/17/2007 7:55:17 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Many people are being held as slaves by the democrats through government assistance.)
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To: mimaw

Amen. The Euros can fight their next war without us.


29 posted on 04/17/2007 7:55:47 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: woofie

The last people on earth that should be piously lecturing us about violence are the Germans.


30 posted on 04/17/2007 7:56:12 AM PDT by razorbak
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To: woofie
Although the provision stems from the times when 'well regulated militias' were deemed necessary to protect against a British attempt to regain the lost colonies...

That's not true at all. If these Euroweenie journalists had bothered to read the writings of the founding fathers, particularly Jefferson and Madison, then they would see that the 2nd Amendment is designed to keep the American populace armed in the event that the government should ever become a dictatorship, giving the people the means with which to protect democracy, as well as their individual persons and their families.

31 posted on 04/17/2007 7:57:14 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: woofie
Lie #1:
for the 2004 expiration of a 10-year ban on semi-automatic weapons
The Klintoon crime bill did not ban semi-automatic weapons. Only those that had a randomly selected appearance.

Lie #2:
Despite the opposition of every police force in the land,...
Only those like the FOP who got a substantial payment for their "endorsement".

Lie #3:
allowed a law to expire that prohibited the sale of semi-automatic and military weapons.
Most military weapons are usually either automatic or select fire. It is illegal for civilians to purchase or own a weapon that fires more than one round per pull of the trigger that was manufactured since around 1988-89
This bill, signed into law by Bush Sr., caused the price of those weapons mfg'd before the law to skyrocket. They are the most heavily regulated weapons around. Just try and make a purchase of a class 3 firearm.

Lie #4:
While most states have issued laws designed to control the sale of arms, the NRA ensures they remain inefficient or are not applied.
Simply untrue - a flat out fabrication

Lie #5:
There, buying a machine gun is often easier than getting a driver's license.
Simply not true - see lie #3.


I see our European cousins are a bit detached from the truth. Most of these are not a difference of opinion - they are simply a deliberate fabrication of a lie.

These are just the one I caught - I'm sure more are there.
32 posted on 04/17/2007 7:58:28 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Msgt USMC

I’m not one who is known for using such language, but I’ll be darn if I can think of a better way to put it. - Well Said my FRiend, well said.


33 posted on 04/17/2007 8:13:36 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: woofie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818225/posts


34 posted on 04/17/2007 9:06:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Msgt USMC

Well said ...thanks ~P~


35 posted on 04/17/2007 9:17:42 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: woofie

I heard the best analagy of all time on the radio today about more gun control laws.

They said “The drug laws have kept drugs off the street so well haven’t they?”


36 posted on 04/17/2007 9:20:00 AM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Opening day the eternal hope of spring and the irrational belief in the impossible.)
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To: dleecomeback07

I’ve heard many times in the European press we can buy guns at the grocery store.

Never saw them.


37 posted on 04/17/2007 9:20:46 AM PDT by dleecomeback07 (Opening day the eternal hope of spring and the irrational belief in the impossible.)
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To: woofie

No worries, by 6PM the Eurotrash and the Democrats will find a way to blame President Bush, Karl Rove, or Dick Cheney.

DeLay is a long shot, but you can’t discount that come to think of it.


38 posted on 04/17/2007 9:21:07 AM PDT by Badeye (Think the GOP will listen to the 'base' in 08?)
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To: nmh
Charles Heston marched in Selma with Dr. King BEFORE it was PC to do so.

A fact I doubt the main stream media is aware of.

39 posted on 04/17/2007 9:21:31 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

They certainly won’t admit it now even if they were aware of it. They have a selective admiration society.

BTW, has Sharpton or ole Jessie aplogized to the Duke LaCross players for the hell they put them through?


40 posted on 04/17/2007 9:32:06 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: woofie
Its America's fault for trusting a free people with their own personal security - instead of the state. How come Europe's history is blood-soaked while America's isn't? We've managed to have an orderly society without ever giving up a single one of our rights. And we will allow our guns to be be pried only off our cold, dead hands.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

41 posted on 04/17/2007 9:37:17 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“If the Jewish/Israeli professor (the holocaust survivor who blocked the door to save his students) had a Concealed Carry Permit (and could have taken his weapon into the so-called “gun free zone”) the body count would have been three: the first two victims, and the shooter.

Discuss.”

****

Good point. However, I remember watching Auschwitz survivor Elie Wiesel on PBS several years ago. He said he believed in gun control. That statement surprised me, considering what he saw and experienced at the death camp.


42 posted on 04/17/2007 9:45:12 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: woofie

We are Americans. The right to keep and bear arms is a RIGHT not a privilege. We own guns because we can.
If some liberal Euro-weenie wants to whine, too damn bad.


43 posted on 04/17/2007 9:46:01 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: woofie

Get your stinking paws off of me, you d@mn dirty euro-weenie!!!


44 posted on 04/17/2007 2:28:02 PM PDT by Greystoke
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To: GrandEagle
Thank you for documenting the EuroLies.

I watched BBC News tonight, and it made me ill.

The reporters gave platitudes about sympathy, but peppered their comments with contempt for America. Instead of comfort, they chided America for a "Wild West" culture and insulted our Freedom.

I lived in Europe for four years, and there is much about it I enjoyed. But Europe's biggest problem is this:

- it is a continent that has contempt for God.

A culture that has thrown out God has no concept of what Good is, or what Evil is capable of.

45 posted on 04/17/2007 6:26:53 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
A culture that has thrown out God has no concept of what Good is, or what Evil is capable of.
This is exactly the problem. Without God's word, we have no definition of what is good and what is evil.

Cordially,
GE
46 posted on 04/17/2007 7:13:27 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: woofie

These Euro-peon worms are intellectual maggots compared to Heston. Let them go back to studying the Koran like good little Dhimmis.


47 posted on 04/17/2007 7:18:02 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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