Posted on 04/16/2007 11:42:27 PM PDT by ribosomal soup
So people here on student visas can get guns legally or were these weapons and the guy already criminal before he went nuts and killed all those people?
He would fall under the provision of the Second Amendment where it states, “The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.”
“The People” includes citizens as well as non citizens.
Just seems you could never do a great background check on someone from another country.
The Bill of Rights and the Constitution applies to all persons in the country except where the word “citizen” is used which is only in the Constitution.
As for background checks, I am not all that sure I want people in DC Democrat or Republican deciding what may cause any of us to fail a background check.
Oh hell, it doesn’t matter. He was just some fella from a crappy country tryin’ to better his life, doin’ a job an American wouldn’t do, takin’ up a place at college that an American didn’t want.
As a matter of fact I believe I heard Whorealdo half-assedly blame us by saying (I’m paraphrasin’)that he was just a poor bloke from a foreign country that was just never made comfortable in our culture. We didn’t do enough to make him feel at home. Nobody held his hand and sung kumbaya........
I don’t know the law, but I would question at least a little having guests to our country being given the rights to buy deadly weapons that require licenses.
True, had he not come in contact with the evil SUV, none of this would have probably happened.
end student visas........at least for a couple of years
let um wait , let um sweat .
We need to send a message
“He would fall under the provision of the Second Amendment where it states, “The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.”
“The People” includes citizens as well as non citizens.”
Wrong. The ‘people’ initially meant white people. Not till the fourteenth amendment did it evenly apply beyond that status. But even to this day, we afford people particular rights in this country ie to say they don’t all have them.
And when those non-citizens (e.g the terrorists) at Guatanamo cuba want a form of Constitutional representation....they’re not afforded those rights (we all have), because they technically don’t have them.
“Whorealdo”
LOL. He really said something like that!? He needs to shut-up. People need to adapt to America...not the other way around.
The 14th cleared things up by extending protections to all persons.
And now even when an illegal alien is arrested he is read his Miranda Rights and is afforded all the protections of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Manchurian Candidate?
were supposed to be European-descended, property-owning men.
Yeah pretty much. Like I said, I was paraphrasing but that was the gist.
I’m just amazed that this mass murder wasn’t the result of yet another crazed white Christian. The media keeps telling me these are the most dangerous and diabolical people on Earth. /s
The people spoken of in the Constituiotn are citizens of the US only. Foreigners were only given rights piecemeal by Congress and the SCOTUS, but are never considered as the people of the US. That's liberal and UN mumbo jumbo.
Only a VISA that gave immigrant status would allow the person to possess a gun. A student VISA is NG unless the person was here to hunt, or had permission from the Justice Dept. Foreign students, vacationers and temp workers should not be allowed to possess weapons.
end student visas........at least for a couple of years
If nothing else tighten the restriction on Chinese students. In case it’s been forgotten:
On 1 NOV 1991, a Chinese physics student killed 5 and wounded another at the U of Iowa. His motive was he didn’t recieve an award. The winner was one of those killed.
O’reilly will have a field day with this.
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