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Windows XP to be phased out by year's end despite customer demand
APC Magazine ^ | 12 April 2007 | Angus Kidman

Posted on 04/12/2007 8:20:09 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: DreamsofPolycarp

You read my mind. Holy sh_t. We agree on something.


61 posted on 04/12/2007 9:21:03 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: ShadowAce

I am forced to use Windows because the finance industry has standardized on it. At home, though, my family is standardized on Macs, and everyone is happy.


62 posted on 04/12/2007 9:22:35 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ShadowAce

This is the Susan B. Anthony dollar coin approach to software. The only way to get people to use the dollar coin is to remove the paper dollar.

MS will decide which is better for you.


63 posted on 04/12/2007 9:22:41 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: cowtowney
MS will decide which is better for you.

heh--They won't decide for me.

64 posted on 04/12/2007 9:23:56 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

MS sells buggy software. The software has no guarantee. If it doesn’t work or if it destroys your system, your files and costs you money, you have no recourse.
Time for a consumer revolt.
However, seeing how sheepish the American public has become, I don’t expect any revolt.


65 posted on 04/12/2007 9:25:13 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: John Will

Right now, not much. I anticipate moving to 0.0 some time later this year, at the rate I’m going. I need to train-up for the things that go “boom.”


66 posted on 04/12/2007 9:26:17 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ShadowAce

This does it for me. During this winter, I am going to trash the MS junk and go to Mac everything.

I have never had a Mac, but I have sure lost respect for MS, so it’s time for a change.


67 posted on 04/12/2007 9:30:33 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: All

Ms bad yadda yadda yadda.

The fact is they did the same thing with the switch from 95 to 98 to XP at some point they stop selling the previous product.

Why would anyone sell program 1.0 when they have 2.0 out?

Keep in mind Microsoft is still a monopoly which is not regulated like a monopoly.

While you may have moderate Geeks who are able to use an emulator to run windows based programs with matchbook, a paperclip, and a slightly modified linux OS it is useless to those of us who rely on off the shelf product to run business applications for our business and staff.

MS will rule the market until it is regulated out of existence or those kids in the garage finally come up with something new.


68 posted on 04/12/2007 9:33:52 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ShadowAce
Computer makers have been told they'll no longer be able to get Windows XP OEM by the end of this year, despite consumer resistance to Vista and its compatibility problems.

I hope M$ is ready for the loss of market share that they are about to experience. Everyone I know (windows engineers included, well, except 1 dork) hates the new Vista.

69 posted on 04/12/2007 9:34:06 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: stompk
I switched my business to Mac four years ago. I have 6 of them now. Powerbooks, G5’s...They are incredible. They always work. Everything works. All the time. I even dropped one of the powerbooks about 8 feet onto a concrete floor (by accident) It works like it did new four years ago. I have a new client that provided a brand new PC for my work with them. Fully loaded 2000 dollar unit. It is like going back in time. It does a new bad thing every day. This client spends 1500 a month just to keep a Windows repair man on call. He comes into their office so much they’ve given him his own desk. In all my years of using Macs I’ve never had to pay a dime to resolve problems or crashes. The difference between the two is like the difference in walking and riding on a jet.
70 posted on 04/12/2007 9:40:34 AM PDT by Boat Rocker
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To: cowtowney
MS will decide which is better for you.

I have the Windows XP PRO disks and a burner .... screw M$ Vista.

71 posted on 04/12/2007 9:43:26 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: stompk

Vista is so disgustingly similar to all the complaints about “*nix” that I’m ready to go through the hassles merely out of protest.

Basically, drivers are hard to find, everything is still in public beta, when/if I do find a driver Vista attempts to stop the install at every new file (took 35 minutes of clicking to install some 20 meg audio drivers that don’t pop and hiss), and nVIDIA blames its performance issues on “Vista limitations” & I believe them.

Every minor action requires 1-3 confirmations and non-Windows automatically downloaded updates are completely disabled even if you attempt to initiate on an admin account.

Vista is basically XP with a barbed wire fence. Its supposed to keep your computer secure, but even with an admin account I feel like I’m on the wrong side of the fence. Clicking redundancy also seems like a very very poor security model. Its only a matter of time before malware/virii learn to access the admin account and bypass these redundant “security checks.” The main problem I have always had with Windows is regardless of how you try to set your settings, Windows thinks it knows what is best and truly limits your options and forces you into a certain set of behavior. In Vista, this aspect is wildly out of control, even a main selling point.

I’m no computer rookie either, what I really miss is DOS. I’m no expert either, so I’m not sure why DOS couldn’t have been updated to support more advanced video and networking protocols. I had a server on MSDOS 6.0 and it worked just fine (for the speeds available back then! lol) and I could play the early 3D games online.

And since then Windows has been dumbing down the product to the point where Vista will treat you like a computer illiterate/mildly retarded 5 year old.


72 posted on 04/12/2007 9:47:17 AM PDT by AntiFed
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To: AntiFed
Ubuntu and MEPIS work well. Knoppix is a good live CD if you just want to take it for a spin. Another good trial method is to download the free VMWare server and download your distro of choice as a virtual machine from VMTN.
73 posted on 04/12/2007 9:49:41 AM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Señor Zorro

Mac (os9.2/osx) and PC (xp) user here.

I agree that OSX sucks.

As far as Vista goes, two words, encrypted bus. NEVER will I use vista.


74 posted on 04/12/2007 9:51:47 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (The Right Brothers Rock)
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To: longtermmemmory
Why would anyone sell program 1.0 when they have 2.0 out?

Because your users need (especially in large environments) need enough time with version 2.0 to plan and implement their migration to that newer version. In fact with most software companies tend to skip a version for that very reason.

e.g. My last shop did not go to RHEL4 from RHEL3, they waited for RHEL5. If they did not do this they would constantly be updating their OS's to new versions not improving their infrastructure.

75 posted on 04/12/2007 9:51:49 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: AntiFed
Anyone know a good Linux build they can recommend to a Linux newbie?

I use RedHat on my various systems, but I've checked out Ubuntu and Kubuntu, among others. I recently downloaded the Kubuntu ISO, and tested it in VMware for my wife. It seems to work pretty good, and is really easy to install. One really cool feature is that you can boot it up on the CD/DVD and see if it detects all of your hardware before you even install anything.



76 posted on 04/12/2007 9:52:33 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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To: antiRepublicrat
OS X? As of Leopard it will be a completely 64-bit BSD variant (performance-sensitive libraries already are 64-bit).

I have ZERO customers using Apple hardware. Even inside a company of over 42,000 employees, the use of Apple hardware for end users is rare. I haven't seen any Apple hardware on company premises since 1992.

77 posted on 04/12/2007 9:53:57 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: N3WBI3

ack, not software companies but companies that have a large software infrastructure.


78 posted on 04/12/2007 9:54:28 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("Help me out here guys: What do you do with someone who wont put up or shut up?" - N3WBI3)
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To: 1rudeboy

I actually have been playing EVE Online for about the past month, and it runs fine on my four-year-old machine, an Athlon XP 2500 with 1 GB of RAM and a Geforce 6600GT video card. Any reasonably powerful modern laptop with a decent video setup should be able to run it well. It’s an older game and still looks good, but doesn’t seem all that graphically demanding.

}:-)4


79 posted on 04/12/2007 9:59:02 AM PDT by Moose4 (What's the difference between Mike Nifong and toast? Right about now, nothing.)
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To: dfwgator
Vista, the best thing that’s ever happened to Linux.

"Vista...The Greatest MacIntosh Software Ever Written"

80 posted on 04/12/2007 10:01:08 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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