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Ancient Retrovirus Is Resurrected
ScienceDaily ^ | 3/1/07

Posted on 04/10/2007 12:26:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 04/10/2007 12:26:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

How long before this science thread will be hidden in General Chat?


2 posted on 04/10/2007 12:42:59 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/5/1979.)
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To: LibWhacker; tx_eggman

Now here’s a brilliant idea... let’s take a retrovirus that all of humanity existing today is here because of a mutation that keeps the virus from working....

and rework it to once again be active.


3 posted on 04/10/2007 12:46:09 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

You took the words right out of my mouth:

“By studying these extremely old viruses, we can tap into what happened in our ancestors millions and millions of years ago.”

Or maybe we can tap into what happened TO our ancestors millions and millions of years ago.

And pestilence was unleashed upon the world, not through a pale rider on a horse, but with the sound of breaking glass in a laboratory somewhere in New Jersey, and a single word:
“Oops!”


4 posted on 04/10/2007 12:50:19 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13
tap into what happened TO our ancestors

Not to OUR ancestors... OUR ancestors had the mutation that kept it from working ;)
5 posted on 04/10/2007 12:53:29 PM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: Vicomte13

> “Oops!”

Same image that occurred to me when they set about resurrecting the 1918 superflu a couple years ago.

[shiver]


6 posted on 04/10/2007 12:53:45 PM PDT by socrates_shoe
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To: SpinnerWebb

“Not to OUR ancestors... OUR ancestors had the mutation that kept it from working ;)”

Not necessarily.
There were probably lots of orphans, who are our ancestors, left behind who managed to muttate, while their parents and grandparents, also our ancestors, bought the farm.

Except that there weren’t any farms back then.


7 posted on 04/10/2007 12:55:55 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: socrates_shoe

Hey, I’ve got a good idea!

Reactivate these old retros, be sure to program and test the antidote and make a bunch of it, inoculate yourself with the antidote, and go break a vial somewhere like, oh, maybe Baghdad.

Sure, it’s MEAN to kill 6 billion people just to get all their toys, but hey, you’ve gotta break some eggs to make an omelette, right?


8 posted on 04/10/2007 12:58:05 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: LibWhacker

This sounds like a script from a bad sci-fi movie.......


9 posted on 04/10/2007 1:03:10 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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"Except that there weren’t any farms back then."

Gosh I hate it when a single posts causes me to slow down from wreaking havoc all over Free Republic.

I had to read your here at least 4 times in order to "get' what you are saying.

There were plenty of farms back then. They just were not being managed well.

The Hunter Gatherers had no chance against the farmers, because they simply could not maintain their own support system while always being "on the road" so to speak.

The farms were few and far between for a while, but as we all know, they were more efficient, and more importantly something did not come from nothing!

Now you can read my post a few times in order to figure out just what I am saying.

10 posted on 04/10/2007 1:11:08 PM PDT by Radix (You might find my other Tag Lines for sale on E-Bay.)
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To: Red Badger

The Andromeda strain.


11 posted on 04/10/2007 1:11:29 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: sbMKE

I’ll volunteer for the Alcoholic part.........


12 posted on 04/10/2007 1:12:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: Radix

I got it at once.

Except if you go back and look at the original article, they’re resurrecting retro-viruses from 100,000 years ago and more. The agricultural revolution was 8000 years ago, maybe 10,000 years tops.

I seriously doubt there were any farms anywhere outside of anthills 100,000 years ago.

If men did figure out agriculture that long ago, relative to everyone else figuring it out, I figure we would either all be speaking one language under one government, or have already reached Alpha Centauri by now.


13 posted on 04/10/2007 1:27:47 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: LibWhacker

Ok, which part of this is a good idea?


14 posted on 04/10/2007 1:39:09 PM PDT by Killborn (Age of servitude. A government of the traitors, by the liars, for the sheep.)
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To: sbMKE; Red Badger

She gets to live in Marty's Postapocalyptic World Fallout Shelter.

She doesn't.

15 posted on 04/10/2007 1:40:17 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: LibWhacker

Ping for later read. I have to go to #1 Son’s gymnastics meet.


16 posted on 04/10/2007 1:42:18 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Red Badger
"This sounds like a script from a bad sci-fi movie......."

Heh ...

A line by Vincent Price, the mad scientist in the movie, "The Tingler" ...

"It's a new, experimental drug called lysergic acid diathylamide"

Rent the movie ... it's there.

17 posted on 04/10/2007 2:08:49 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: sbMKE
More like Jurassic Park.

These guys sucked a partial virus out of human DNA and repaired the damage.

The Jurassic Park guys sucked partial dinosaur DNA out of a mosquito and repaired the damage.

18 posted on 04/10/2007 2:30:28 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: LibWhacker
HERV sequences in human and primate DNA are no doubt the most powerful proof of evolution. Mapping which HERV sequences are common between the species results in a species evolution map corresponding to those made by traditional fossil studies.

Since we know that HERV sequences inherited via DNA are the result of a specific infection in a specific individual that against all odds was trasmitted to offspring, all these HERV sequences common between various species are hard proof of human evolution.

19 posted on 04/10/2007 2:31:11 PM PDT by narby
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To: SpinnerWebb

We are immune to all these old viruses and have incorporated them into our DNA code so really they are part of us and cannot infect us again.


20 posted on 04/10/2007 2:33:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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