Classical Conservative - Since Mar 20, 2007
Wow, you didn't even make it a whole month before ooozing out of the closet.
MEOOOW!!!.
Posted on 04/08/2007 1:11:57 PM PDT by Princip. Conservative
SACRAMENTO- Supporters will renew their efforts this week to legalize gay marriages in California, but there seems to be little doubt that the outcome will be a rerun—another veto by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Assemblyman Mark Leno, the San Francisco Democrat who introduced the gay marriage bill that Schwarzenegger vetoed in 2005, said he is confident lawmakers will send the measure to the Republican governor again this year.
"We're hopeful that he will understand why it's important that he end the second-class treatment of countless California families and children," Leno said.
The bill is scheduled to be considered Tuesday by the Assembly Judiciary Committee. A spokeswoman for Schwarzenegger, Sabrina Lockhart, said the governor's position hasn't changed.
In his veto message in 2005, Schwarzenegger said the Leno bill violated Proposition 22, the anti-gay marriage initiative approved by California voters in 2000, and that any attempt to legalize same-sex weddings also should go on the ballot.
Schwarzenegger repeated that stand in comments to high school students attending a YMCA conference in February.
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He said his bill doesn't need voter approval because it would amend a different section of law than Proposition 22, which was put on the ballot to prevent California from recognizing gay marriages performed elsewhere.
Leno said his bill deals with marriages performed in California and would define them as civil contracts between two persons.
Given Schwarzenegger's position, the issue probably will be decided by the state Supreme Court, which agreed in December to rule whether California's ban on gay marriages violates equal protection requirements. A decision in that case isn't likely before late this year.
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I voted for Arnold and this is one of the reasons I did so.
“”We’re hopeful that he will understand why it’s important that he end the second-class treatment of countless California families and children,” Leno said.”
Try us. Just how many second class gay families with children are there? Should be easy enough to figure out since unless there is a donor or adoption, there will be no child.
Let’s go to the public records and see.
So, if the homosexual activists can't have a traditional marriage, they want to make it so no one can. Dogs in the manger.
I wonder what Susan Kennedy is whispering in his ear on this one?
There has been as much of the gay agenda (doemstic partner,civil union, etc) advanced under the GUb’s admin than any previous ones. If anything, a campaign of gradual incrementalism so I wouldn’t bet all my Easter eggs iin what he will do the rest of his term.
Keep in mind, he isn’t running for office, well unless he runs for the Senate and if he does, this would be a real feather in his hat were he to sign and run, at least in California as it is today.. funny how a very small percentage of the electorate has can have such effects under the guise of civil rights much less human rights...
Thanks for posting, the above is jmo.
>>Gay families deserve the same right as straight ones.
No they don’t. They are a perversion of Natural Law.
I don’t want my health insurance premiums being used for their procreation.
>>Perhaps, I should just become a libertarian.
Good Idea.
Heck, why have any standards at all. The first stupidity was comparing “gay” with “interracial”. Homosexuality is a mental disorder. When science was science it was classified as such. When agenda science arose it was taken out of the manual the same way Silent Spring got rid of DDT and Global Warming became consensus.
From a moral perspective, it is immoral. Conservatism is marred by your viewpoint, so be free to go to the libertarians. “Gay” is a behavior-not an identity. Any person is free to marry as long as it is a man and a woman. So, there goes the silly, and I do mean silly, civil rights stretch.
Other than that, have a nice day.
MEOOOW!!!.
But...but...there’s no difference between Arnold and the Dems. So many Freepers tell me so.
“But...but...there’s no difference between Arnold and the Dems. So many Freepers tell me so.”
LOL. I know. It’s sad really.
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“I support gay marriage and find Arnold’s behavior to be stereotypical. You can’t stop two adults from entering into a contract. It also doesn’t help that interracial marriage had to go through the same difficult process. Well, I suppose the excuse “well, this is different” will be applied. Gay families deserve the same right as straight ones. It’s a shame that conservatism is marred, once again, by utter stupidity in terms of civil rights. I am sick and tired of having to adumbrate my views on the issue just because the majority of conservatives become parodies of themselves. Perhaps, I should just become a libertarian.”
Conservatism may mean different things to different people. However, most of us firmly believe that homosexuality has no place in being countenanced by the government. We believe that there is no constitutional right for homosexuals to get married.
Promoting the homosexualization of society is not something given platform here on FR. Take your postings for support of homosexual sexual activity premised rights and privileges elsewhere. Just because someone chooses to engage in certain intrinisically disordered sexual activities does not grant them civil rights (you promote looney tunes only promoted on DU type liberal forums) LOL
Exactly how did you become a Classical Conserative?
Most conservatives on this forum could easily explain the difference between an interracial marriage and a homosexual one.
Maybe you should become a liberatarian, since you so glibbly equate the two.
Bye.
sniff,sniff.............
She will dance upon the still-smoking carcass of the enemy...
Cis boom bah
SNIFF ZOOM Z O T !
Love that ol Baptist chuch : )
LOL!
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Yep, Arnold is sooooooooooo much better than Davis, cuz we all remember when Davis signed that bill mandating gay marriage throughout California, right?
Oh... wait. That didn't happen. Turns out Doofus has the exact SAME position as Arnuld on "gay marriage", that is technically "against" allowing gay marriage, but he's fine and dandy with gay couples have "civil unions" and "domestic partnership benefits.
Sorry guys, try again. Perhaps you can all enlighten us on WHAT issue Arnold is "better" than Davis.
Any time now.
**crickets**
**crickets**
**crickets**
**snickers**
**giggling**
**tittering**
**UNCONTROLLED LAFFTER**
**BELLOWING GUFFAWS!!
(wretching in disgust)
That's another "homer" Billy Boy!!!
“Sorry guys, try again. Perhaps you can all enlighten us on WHAT issue Arnold is “better” than Davis.
Any time now.”
Your argument is really actually quite weak. Davis may have ‘opposed’ gay marriage initially, but he changed his position. If memory serves me correctly, he initially vetoed the domestic partnership law, but then changed his mind later and signed various measures which allowed the same thing.
Considering that most prominent Democrats in California now support gay marriage (Angelides was a rabid supporter of gay marriage) and considering that Davis flip-flopped on domestic partnerships, it’s highly likely that Davis would have flip-flopped and come out in support of full-blown gay marriage, in spite of his earlier (weak) reservations. Either way, the issue is moot, since the alternative in 2006 was Arnold or Angelides - and it’s clear that we got the more conservative of the two. I would be much quicker to trust a GOP governor like Arnold on this issue than Gray Davis.
Another way in which Arnold bested Davis is on the illegal alien driver’s licenses. Anyone who thinks that Arnold is somehow worse t
Come on, BillyBoy, just look at the record! He promoted and signed legislation in the State's most historic land grab, the 25 MILLION acre Sierra Nevada Conservancy. He promoted unconstitutional borrowing to allow the state to support continued deficit spending and provide even more resources for the liberal education lobby. He has grown the size of government faster than Davis could have dreamed of. He promoted borrowing and subsidies for everything from embryonic stem-cell research to hydrogen highways. The latest $40 BILLION in bonds will keep the union workers happy for a half-decade! He promoted and signed into law the most stringent global warming legislation imaginable that will prove to squash big business and energize environmental activists to continue the greening of California. He has signed more gay-friendly legislation than any Governor in the history of California (or probably the nation). . . .
How could any Democrat have done any better in advancing the liberal agenda? ;-)
“Leno said his bill deals with marriages performed in California and would define them as civil contracts between two persons. “
Then Leno is the most illiterate legislator in California. The local office supply store (ie Office Depot for 24.95) has cohabitation forms available. These are legally recognized civil contract enforcable in a court. This is legal right now.
Leno is just prancing around for the homosexual lobby’s efforts to redefine marriage to be based on how orgasmicly conclusive a couple’s recreational sex is.
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