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Castro hits out at US biofuel use
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| Thursday, March 29, 2007
Posted on 03/29/2007 2:57:04 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu
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To: P-40
Too bad he ruined the soil by overfarming or Cuba could develop a cash crop in ethanol.
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posted on
03/29/2007 5:56:51 AM PDT
by
ClaireSolt
(Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Tell it to the Brazilians, Fidel. They use more Biofuel than we could ever hope to.
Let me get this right. Half of the world's population is going to starve starting tomorrow morning if I fill up with E-85? Bwahahahaha!
Them damn narcotics have made Fidel null and void.
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posted on
03/29/2007 6:01:35 AM PDT
by
CholeraJoe
(Hajjis HATE the waterboard! It can turn a clam into a canary so fast Harry Potter would be jealous.)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
It's a tough one to consider. I'll wait until Dan Rather goes down there and explains it all to me. Harry Belafonte will do in a pinch.
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posted on
03/29/2007 6:03:46 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: CholeraJoe
I have been driving on E-85 for largely personal reasons. From now on, I can wallow in the smugness of knowing it breaks Fidel's heart as well.
To: CholeraJoe
Tell it to the Brazilians, Fidel. They use more Biofuel than we could ever hope to. The US produces more ethanol now than Brazil does and still imports ethanol from Brazil. Brazil may have a higher percentage of biofuel use, but the US uses more gallons.
U.S., Brazil plan ethanol partnership
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posted on
03/29/2007 7:14:10 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: thackney
The US produces more ethanol now than Brazil Does that include or exclude ethanol produced for human consumption? Lotsa "corn squeezins" coming out of the stills at McCormick and Jack Daniels.
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posted on
03/29/2007 7:19:52 AM PDT
by
CholeraJoe
(Hajjis HATE the waterboard! It can turn a clam into a canary so fast Harry Potter would be jealous.)
To: FormerACLUmember
i sure hope that fidel thanked nancy pelosi for the donation
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posted on
03/29/2007 7:40:59 AM PDT
by
mt tom
(high in the sierras looking down into the garden spot of the world)
To: CholeraJoe
Just fuel (denatured) ethanol.
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posted on
03/29/2007 8:20:18 AM PDT
by
thackney
(life is fragile, handle with prayer)
To: FormerACLUmember
ROTFLMAO!! I'll have to admit, I never thought of that 'angle'.
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posted on
03/29/2007 10:51:13 AM PDT
by
dc-zoo
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Castro has a point.
Using food for fuel is dumb. Make the world dependent upon us for food and then use food as a weapon. (The Middle East does this with oil, we should do this with food.)
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Does the United States, or Canada, have some sort of "duty" to feed the rest of the world with our successful, productive farmlands? It was to the advantage of our farmers to sell surplusses of grain to Red China and the USSR back in the old days, but if they can find better paying markets for it, why wouldn't they take advantage of it? It's not our fault that various socialist countries around the world are consistenly unable to feed themselves (ie "40 years of bad harvests").
The funny thing is, I agree with him - turning valuable foodstuff into fuel is not viable in the long run, IMO, and is mostly only profitable to farmers due to subsidies.
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posted on
03/29/2007 11:03:56 AM PDT
by
-YYZ-
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Well, gosh. Now I'm torn.
On the one hand, I think using food crops to produce fuel is stupid. On the other hand, anything Castro is against, I am for.
What a pickle ...
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posted on
03/29/2007 2:52:47 PM PDT
by
Kellis91789
(Liberals aren't atheists. They worship government -- including human sacrifices.)
To: dc-zoo
Cuba is making aggressive measures to develop a sugar cane to ethanol program. The fact is easily determined (took me 15 seconds on Google) and utterly ignored in the shabby, lazy BBC and US lamestream media. Don't want to make their demi-god Fidel look like the mega-liar he is.
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Using corn as a feedstock for ethanol is not the most efficient usage of surplus farmland.
But until some better fuel technologies and farming techniques come along, it is a good start.
And I really don't give a rip about Fidel's point of view. I grew up in Miami, and have a lot of Cuban friends. Screw him.
To: surely_you_jest
I have to laugh at this crap. Lets take a look at some plain provable facts again.
At one time a barrel of oil was worth 2-3 bushels of grain. the ratio of the price of grain to oil has plummeted in the last 30 years. But then something happened. There came about discussion about using American grown corn as the basis for the alcohol that goes in to ethanol. The price of corn has doubled in the last year and is still on the rise. The ratio of corn to oil is changing in a direction that is more favorable for us and is still headed up. If this program goes into production it will do two things. It will drop our level of oil imports and it will make food more expensive for those countries that are oil rich bu food poor. Our farmers will be bringing more money back into our country. The shift is not huge at this point in time but it is definable by looking at the numbers.
Those folks that can't feed their own people are as hooked on cheap grain from the US as we used to be on their cheap oil. Right now, Castro has neither oil or food in excess. He has to import both. Sorry old man but that is the way socialism crumbles.
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Holy cow, I agree with El Presdiente.
To: Brilliant
Cost of corn tortillas going up socialism going down.
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Fidel is pissed because his buddy Hugo is not getting any money from biofuels.
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posted on
03/29/2007 6:46:49 PM PDT
by
reg45
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The United States has no more responsibility to provide the world with cheap grain than Saudi Arabia does to supply us with cheap oil.
We do not own the world anything. All of our foreign aid has been a one way street for the last 60 years. We have been feeding nations that are now lining up to take cheap shots at us at every opportunity. If they do not want to deal with us in a civil way then maybe then need reminded just where all this money is coming from. I think we need to take a one year break from giving foreign aid to most of these countries. I will bet it will greatly enhance their memory.
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Well now I know where Rosie gets her whacko ideas.
As for hunger, I don't think hunger has been caused by low food production in over a century. Famine in the 20th century was typically caused by politics. Just ask the Ukrainians.
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posted on
04/04/2007 5:56:30 AM PDT
by
magellan
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