Posted on 03/29/2007 1:51:17 AM PDT by darkness78
As we know, opinion against the war in Iraq, and against President Bush, now stands at between 60 and 70 percent in America. If you’re a right-wing authoritarian follower, how do you continue to prop up the necessary belief that you represent a silent majority of downtrodden patriots, and that someday a real rain will come and wash the scum off the streets?...
I still support America ,Because I know that I can make a poll say anything I want it to.We really do not know how many Americans do or do not support the war on terror and all its aspects,to include Iraq,because we do not have an HONEST poll.When we do, then we will know,not before then.
Do you post there or just read it?
They can't stand anyone opposing them. While the GOE was in DC, we were in Fayetteville giving them grief:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1807750/posts
We were successful because one of them wrote this to the Raleigh newsrag:
http://www.newsobserver.com/580/story/555366.html
Somehow my little 1500 watt system overpowered their 5000 watt system.
Most Americans oppose defeat and support victory.
Most Americans dislike war, and want to avoid it, when possible.
There is nothing contradictory in these statements. I hold these positions myself, in fact.
I think the point the dems and idiot bloggers miss--is that a high percentage of people "against the war," are against the way it was/is being waged--not the fact we're fighting.
If the PC shackles were removed and we fought a war as a war, there would be much more support.
They miss it and are invested in defeat.
What is in our best interest now, which seems to be lost on the Democrats and Chuck Hagel, is to do what is necessary now to insure a stable Iraq security and leave when the job is done. If our leaders showed unity on this we could even be done and out by their make-believe date of Sept 2008.
Nooo way I'm endorsing a pullout. I was just replying to a fellow who seems to have embraced defeat pretty early in the morning.
I want to see a poll that asks:
Do you want to surrender Iraq to the terrorists?
Yes
No
There is a lesson here about supporting our troops. You do not support our vets by calling them chickens.
The vets were followed by the families of our troops in Iraq. One of the mothers was crying as she talked about how this war had destroyed her son. And how he died. As she paused to regain her composure, the heckles from those across the street came loud and clear.
That one mother being Cindy! This is precious. He thinks all of the Vets screaming at him were not very respectful of the Troops in Iraq because they disrespected him and his buddies who were providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
Six Vets and perhaps one or two more of their buddies that is. And one was smoking a cigarette. Now that was disrespectful.
Note the significance of that date and how it coincides with the next election cycle. The drafters of this legislation apparently are more concerned about their upcoming elections and sucking more money out of the economy to fund those elections.
These creatures of the left know that the American public is largely ignorant and fickle. If the war effort in Iraq appeared to be winning and successful that supposed 70% would turn around over night. Fickle people like winners! For most, the war is like an athletic contest; you go with the winner. That's why the left is so invested in our defeat there.
I was the one with the megaphone in Fayetteville, guilty as charged! The problem is that the libs don't like a taste of their own medicine.
"If the lefties would just let us fully drill for oil in Alaska and off the coast of the US, we could pull out completely with little pain."
You are wrong, we are not in Iraq for oil, but to promote freedom and democracy!
"A big US base in your back yard tends to dissuade your enemies."
...and these stupid liberals who think that it attracts them!
That would be the logical strategic long term position. And all those American lives must be worth something. Their sacrifices definitely need to be honored. In the end however this will always be the Middle East. One big cluster puck. On a side note, it will always be a great place for new recruits to see some live action, no doubt. Personally I always thought we were there to stay in some fashion or form. I suspect most of our representatives realize this also. Our economy right now would crash and burn if the Middle Eastern Oil spigot was turned off. If our leaders had saved up some type of surplus of cash for us, we might be able to weather that storm. A depression with our debt load spells certain doom for the feds.
Yes Freedom and Democracy are great ideals and they will bring long term stability to the region. Concerning oil, if we prematurely pull out of Iraq like the Democrats want, the power vacuum will almost definitely suck Saudi Arabia, Iran, the Kurds, Turkey and Syria into conflict over the infrastructure, resources and population of Iraq. This will destabilize world oil markets and could very easily lead to massive reductions in oil production rates. So oil becomes the number 1 issue if the Democrats get their way.
Here's a sample from my files:
JEEZ: "Hamsher replied to Althouse's post about civility in public discourse by calling her an idiot and portraying her as a baboon." Because of this position, Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake, a blogger prominent at the recent YearlyKos meeting, started calling Sen. Lieberman Rape Gurney Joe. Here is a humorous take on the leftist mind. Quite weird, when you really deconstruct it.
It's like seventh grade, in some parts of the blogosphere. Related item here.
Indeed: " Cursing at Kos. Firedoglake says 'Sore Loserman.' Isn't it strange to see Democrats cursing him with the very wordplay that drove them up the wall in 2000?" The anti-LGF lefty smear machine is kicking into gear again. Firedoglake says I’m a racist, and all my readers are racists, and by extension all “conservatives” are racists too. “Racist,” in this case, being defined as “critical of Islam.” And they’ve found someone who has no life to cherry pick through 2,634,139+ comments to prove it. link: 164 commentsAnother Day, Another Smear
| Firedoglake My Left Nutmeg MyDD All lefty blogs. The gal who runs firedoglake (forget her name at the moment) is a real moonbat dem from Hollywood. ... |
| To take just one example, here's Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake:. We sent a very loud, long message to the Democratic party about what we're willing to fight ... www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1593383/posts?page=8 - 47k - |
More proof of why we're a republic.
Awww, I think someone got their feelings hurt when the silent majority became silent no more....
WE'RE HERE
YOU'RE QUEER
GET USED TO IT!!
The left will have to decide what to do. Most likely their response will be violent -- violent in the form of provoking others (minorities, ILLEGAL aliens) to attack.
No you don't KNOW that. You can say it, you can imagine it, arguably, if you make obscene concoctions of odd polls here and there such a summation of answers to weasel worded polls has been even been reported by MSM and major polling organizations. However none of that makes it so.
They don't like anybody to question them, doing so will irritate psuedo-intellectual snobs. Just remember, rain is bedlam.
No you don't KNOW that. You can say it, you can imagine it, arguably, if you make obscene concoctions of odd polls here and there such a summation of answers to weasel worded polls has been even been reported by MSM and major polling organizations. However none of that makes it so.
I think the 70% figure is accurate - but the mistake the Left makes is in thinking that 70% opposition to the Iraq war translates to 70% support for their policies. People are unhappy with Bush, but aren't leaping to support his enemies, either.
Nominal, non-activist conservatives who are unhappy with the Administration don't become liberals, they simply tune out.
Hmmmm
Yes spitting on veterans and attempting bodily harm to aged infirm Vietnam Veterans is soooooooo much more supportive,
Calling veterans "baby killers" is soooooo patriotic.
Carrying spray paint to the Vietnam Memorial Wall is sooooo disciplined and sincere. Why carry a big old American flag when you can show your love of colors by applying a childlike spattering of graffetti on a national monument? And the can is so much easier to carry... just pop it in your pocket.
Sooooooo there......
DC Chapter ping to more good pics at above referenced link.
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I joined with some other veterans Saturday to protest the occupation of Iraq. We veterans led the march to a public park in Fayetteville. Across the street were people protesting our protest.
When the Iraq veterans were taking turns at the microphone explaining why they could no longer support the war, those across the street were using their bullhorns to call them chickens. There were about six vets, and although the taunts were incessant, each vet was disciplined and sincere.
There is a lesson here about supporting our troops. You do not support our vets by calling them chickens.
The vets were followed by the families of our troops in Iraq. One of the mothers was crying as she talked about how this war had destroyed her son. And how he died. As she paused to regain her composure, the heckles from those across the street came loud and clear.
And this is how they support our troops, by a callous disregard for the sacrifice of service? They have every right to protest our protest, but they chose the wrong time and showed disrespect to our servicemen and women and their families.
Wally Myers
Raleigh
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I sure would like to see the DD-214's [discharge papers] of those "veterans".
I'm getting sick to DEATH of all these so-called "patriots" with little to NO legitimacy claiming their "rights" have been trampled.
Only the LEFT is allowed "freedom of expression" these days.
I took a look at the link you posted.
Har-de-har.
They did a BETTER job of ADVERTISING the GOE than one could have ASKED for...!!!
That whole MESS is a study in futility.
Bravo! Good for you and THANK YOU!!!
If you were also the one smoking a (gasp) cigarette, I will get right down there and take you out to dinner.....in the smoking section!
You mean the Commies were photographing us????? WOW!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
That is all a poll (spit) is...an opinion.
Polls (spit) are conducted to SHAPE public opinion, not GAGE it. Those that are swayed by the constant drip of these polls (spit) are their target audience.
A small cigar actually and I only had a one day dispensation from my wife to smoke.
Yep - the Leftists are trying to pull a con job.
Ha! Up is down, black is white, they are right we are wrong.....it all makes sense. ;*)
;*)
I want to see a poll that asks:
&&&&&
I want a poll that has a requirement of being qualified to participate.
Instead of asking if someone is/has voted, it should ask "Can you tell me where Iraq is?" or "Can you tell me where Guantanemo Bay is?" Anyone who cannot answer correctly, should not be considered to have a valid opinion.
Scared em'. Scared em' to death. Good. Scare them much more and more often.
Of COURSE they didn't like it!!
It runs counter to the Socialist/Democrat approved propoganda campaign!
I can point to over 300 Anti-War propoganda posts on my financial boards, made in just THE LAST THREE HOURS...
The layout and photos are so nice, it is possible to think that a GOE plant did the posting to mess with the minds of that websites viewers.
LOL!
Typical lefty, they see a "conspiracy" in anything and everything except themselves where it really is.
And if I did a poll questioning "How many people are against of root canals", I'd probably get even more.
Just because you are against "war", or even "this war", doesn't mean that you are in favor of surrender.
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