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EXCLUSIVE: DOJ Official Ignored White House Guidance
ABCNews.com ^ | March 26, 2007 | JAN CRAWFORD GREENBURG

Posted on 03/27/2007 10:51:33 AM PDT by Enchante

Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty, ignored White House Counsel Harriet Miers and senior lawyers in the Justice Department when he told the committee last month of specific reasons why the administration fired seven U.S. attorneys -- and appeared to acknowledge for the first time that politics was behind one dismissal. McNulty's testimony directly conflicted with the approach Miers advised, according to an unreleased internal White House e-mail described to ABC News. According to that e-mail, sources said, Miers said the administration should take the firm position that it would not comment on personnel issues.

Until McNulty's testimony, administration officials had consistently refused to publicly say why specific attorneys were dismissed and insisted that the White House had complete authority to replace them. That was Attorney General Alberto Gonzales' approach when he testified before the committee in January.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: doj; fitzgeralding; gonzales; miers; schumer; usattorney; whitehouse
Source of the pseudo-scandal over DOJ firings of the 8 US Attorneys now revealed: Deputy AG McNulty believed that his "friendship" with the loathsome Charles Schumer allowed the DOJ to ignore WH guidance that personnel matters should not be discussed. Schumer was allowed to push into this matter further than probably any Judiciary Committee has ever been allowed to go before, then created the DBM firestorm. There should be many lessons to this affair, one of which you never trust scumbags like Schumer to show decency...... whether McNulty was right that DOJ simply could not get away with refusing to discuss this with the committee, I don't know.... but he sure played right into Schumer's slimy hands.
1 posted on 03/27/2007 10:51:34 AM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante


McNulty seems like just the kind of weakling that has crippled this administration in so many areas. Of course, the "new tone" coming from the top has been pushed far beyond anything that can be justified, given the savage, vicious derangement of the 'Rats and DBM.


2 posted on 03/27/2007 10:53:19 AM PDT by Enchante (Nifong, Fitzfong, Earlefong, Hillaryfong, Schumfong, Waxfong.... I see a pattern here?!?)
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To: Enchante

Has anyone figured out what crime was committed here?


3 posted on 03/27/2007 10:54:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Enchante
and appeared to acknowledge for the first time that politics was behind one dismissal.

Gee, and when Clinton did it in '93, there were NO politics involved; such a manufactured scandel.

4 posted on 03/27/2007 10:58:55 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: AppyPappy

"Has anyone figured out what crime was committed here?"

Opposition to liberalism. The Left is in the process of criminalizing opposition to itself.

They succeeded in Scooter Libby's case.


5 posted on 03/27/2007 11:04:00 AM PDT by Mugwump (Better Living Through Sarcasm)
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To: Turbo Pig

In '93 Clinton received letters of resignation from all the US attorneys as is traditional at the beginning of a new administration. It happens at the beginning of every new president's term. Just FYI...


6 posted on 03/27/2007 11:13:05 AM PDT by factpolice
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To: AppyPappy

Son, you need to get your head right. Clearly you need more Two Minutes of Hate therapy.


7 posted on 03/27/2007 11:13:08 AM PDT by Humidston (Thompson/Watts 2008!!)
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To: Enchante
"...according to an unreleased internal White House e-mail described to ABC News."

That's the whole story right there.

8 posted on 03/27/2007 11:18:15 AM PDT by telebob
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To: Enchante

Trent Lott was correct on the Sunday shows when he "skewered" Sen. Feinstein on this point:

They were give the jobs for "political reasons". Why can't they be fired for "political reasons"???


9 posted on 03/27/2007 11:32:26 AM PDT by zavvone
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To: Enchante

I heard a Q & A between one of the whiners (former US attorneys) and some interviewer today. Didn't pay enough attention to get names. When the whiner complained that politics was behind their firing the interviewer ask "how do you think you got the job in the first place?" Sort of sums up the whole phony turmoil.


10 posted on 03/27/2007 11:52:19 AM PDT by FreePaul
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To: Enchante

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803579/posts?page=17#17



"In the wake of McNulty's Feb. 6 appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Gonzales was furious with how the deputy attorney general characterized the departure of Little Rock U.S. Attorney Bud Cummins It was explained as a move to insert Tim Griffin, a former White House political aide, into the slot.

In an e-mail, Justice's deputy communications director, Brian Roehrkasse, wrote to Sampson and another aide: "The attorney general is extremely upset with the stories on US attys this morning. He also thought some of the DAG's statements were inaccurate. . . . I think from a straight news perspective we just want the stories to die."

Roehrkasse said in a statement last night: "The Attorney General was upset because he believed Bud Cummins' removal involved performance considerations and it was that aspect of [McNulty's] testimony the Attorney General was questioning."



McNulty is another Clinton holdover, was appointed by Clinton in 1995. From September of 2001 to March of 2006 he was US Attorney for the Eastern Region, based in Virginia.

Boy, they sure can pick 'em. Comey was Deputy AG when he named Fitzgerald to Plamegate, another non-scandal "scandal" that blew up from no crime committed, now McNulty, a Schumer friend has created a "scandal" where was none. How many moles this administration has? I understand if those are "civil servants" that cannot be fired at will, but why have the political appointees who would work against you?

"Kinder and gentler" didn't help Bush-41, hopefully they are rethinking "new tone" and "uniter not a divider" "policy".


11 posted on 03/27/2007 12:08:58 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: factpolice

Welcome to FR?

Thanks goodness you've arrived. As some believe that errors of omission can be as misleading or harmful as a bald-faced lie, shouldn't you have mentioned that X42 accepted ALL of the tendered resignations but Bush did not? Just curious ... ;-)


12 posted on 03/27/2007 12:31:04 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: Enchante
Schumer was allowed to push into this matter further than probably any Judiciary Committee has ever been allowed to go before, then created the DBM firestorm. There should be many lessons to this affair, one of which you never trust scumbags like Schumer to show decency......

Schumer was also the one who pushed Plamegate "investigation", so the MO is not exactly new for him.

13 posted on 03/27/2007 1:02:58 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Enchante
Deputy AG McNulty believed that his "friendship" with the loathsome Charles Schumer...

This guy thinks that Schumer actually has friends? What a dope! Being 'friends' with Schumer would be like petting a rattle snake.

14 posted on 03/27/2007 1:07:20 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: CutePuppy
How many moles this administration has? I understand if those are "civil servants" that cannot be fired at will, but why have the political appointees who would work against you?

Hell, the moles date all the way back to Carter and LBJ, not just Clinton. Conservatives tend to take a public service job for a few years and then return to the real world out of frustration with bureaucracy. Lefties take those jobs and stay forever because they can't survive in the real world.

15 posted on 03/27/2007 1:12:24 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: CutePuppy
McNulty is another Clinton holdover, was appointed by Clinton in 1995. From September of 2001 to March of 2006 he was US Attorney for the Eastern Region, based in Virginia.

Hardly. He was one of the prosecutors in Clinton's impeachment trial. Here's more:
(btw, there were only TWO "Clinton holdovers"--Warner and Mueller. The rest were removed by Bush shortly after taking office.)

Paul J. McNulty was sworn in as Deputy Attorney General of the United States on March 17, 2006. Prior to his confirmation by the Senate, Mr. McNulty had served as Acting Deputy Attorney General since November 1, 2005.

Mr. McNulty has spent nearly his entire career in public service, with more than two decades of experience in federal and state government. From September 14, 2001, to March 17, 2006, Mr. McNulty served as the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. Under Mr. McNulty's leadership, the U.S. Attorney's Office in Eastern Virginia grew more than 20 percent, and he made the prosecution of terrorism, gun violence, drug trafficking, and corporate fraud his top priorities and successfully prosecuted many of our nation's highest profile cases in the War on Terror. He also launched initiatives against gangs, cybercrime and procurement fraud.

Before becoming U.S. Attorney, Mr. McNulty directed President Bush's transition team for the Department of Justice and then served as Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General. In the prior Bush Administration, Mr. McNulty was the Justice Department's director of policy and its chief spokesman.

Mr. McNulty has over 12 years of experience in the United States Congress. He was Chief Counsel and Director of Legislative Operations for the Majority Leader of the U.S. House of Representatives. He was also Chief Counsel to the House Subcommittee on Crime where he served for eight years. During those years he was a principal draftsman of many anti-terrorism, drug control, firearms and anti-fraud statutes.

Mr. McNulty has played a significant role in shaping criminal justice policy in the Commonwealth of Virginia. He served then Governor George Allen as a primary architect of the "Parole Abolition and Sentencing Reform" initiative in 1994, and he served on the board of the Department of Criminal Justice Services and the Advisory Committee of the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

Mr. McNulty grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He married his college sweetheart 25 years ago, and they have four children.


16 posted on 03/27/2007 6:13:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Tunehead54; factpolice
X42 accepted ALL of the tendered resignations but Bush did not?

All but 2 U.S. Attorneys were removed by Bush. What is the "bald-face lie" you refer to?

17 posted on 03/27/2007 6:15:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
From September of 2001 to March of 2006 he was US Attorney for the Eastern Region, based in Virginia.

From September 14, 2001, to March 17, 2006, Mr. McNulty served as the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia.

That part coincides. I was wrong on 1995, mixed up the reference material with someone else's name, thanks for correcting.

From http://www.gcc.edu/Biography_-_Paul_McNulty.php :

From 1995 to 1999, he served with the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, first as Chief Counsel to the Subcommittee on Crime and then as Director of Communications and Chief Counsel to the Committee. As Director of Communications, he directed house Republican media relations for the Clinton impeachment process.

Why was he freelancing, does he have an axe to grind, or hoping for advancement if AG resigned? Or is every "realist" going back to Bush-41 administration (Scowcroft, Powell, etc., "ambassador" Joseph Wilson being a "very" special case) trying to stab W in the back, for fun and potential profit?

18 posted on 03/27/2007 6:54:16 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
Beware of all the anonymous sources in the thread article. Alberto Gonzales had already testified before the same committee that they were removed due to "performance." He's the one that got Schumer motivated to keep digging!
"Some people should view it as a sign of good management. What we do is make an evaluation about the performance of individuals, and I have a responsibility to the people in your districts that we have the best possible people in these positions. And that's the reason why changes sometimes have to be made. Although there are a number of reasons why changes get made and why people leave on their own, I think I would never, ever make a change in the United States attorney position for political reasons, or if it would in any way jeopardize an ongoing serious investigation. I just would not do it."

19 posted on 03/27/2007 7:16:58 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Beware of all the anonymous sources in the thread article.

That's always a given :-) , but I don't think that Schumer ever needs to be motivated.

I was actually going by an earlier thread :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1803579/posts - Fitzgerald Ranked During Leak Case , granted it's from WaPo, but the "quotes" there, as opposed to commentary and opinion, seem real. I am not AG fan, but neither I am willing to slam him in this non-case where no matter what DoJ does, Dems will "exercise oversight responsibilities", and turn every political disagreement into a crisis and "investigation", as they have done with Reagan and Bush-41.

I don't think that "we fired these eight just because we could, and there were no performance issues" defense would help any with this political witch-hunt that Dems are hoping to turn into a criminal one à la Plamegate by Fitzgeralding someone during hearings, and they would have hearings due to "seriousness of the charges". Somebody from DoJ or some US Attorneys would bring up "pressure" etc. etc. We'd have the same political circus, only without any "cause" defense. That's where I differ with Charles Krauthammer (a very rare occasion, indeed) : http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1805398/posts?page=11#11 - Unnecessary Scandal

20 posted on 03/27/2007 8:48:06 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

I've been slowly reading through those 3000+ emails, which includes the transcript of the SJC hearing at which McNulty testified, as well as the statement of Moschella to a House committee (he also mentioned "performance." This "anonymous" source is spinning on behalf of a handful of players, IMO, and not providing the full story.

BTW, Specter's questions to McNulty were just about as hard hitting as Shumer's.


21 posted on 03/27/2007 9:02:15 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Glad someone is doing the work of actually getting to the "source", not second-hand accounts through al-media.

Most likely outside of emails, but any truth to so-called "friendship" between McNulty and Schumer? I understand that in DC a "friendship" has a different meaning than in normal life, but was there something that could give him an idea that Schumer could be pacified, or is the entire line about this completely made up?

Re Specter, not surprising... He and Hagel and some other "Republicans" "are dead to me".


22 posted on 03/27/2007 10:40:19 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy
Schumer will not stop until all of the white house is in prison.
23 posted on 03/27/2007 10:43:02 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Rino's need not apply)
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To: CutePuppy
Not friendship... but "good relationship."

Schumer didn't specify who needed to testify--he just gave subject/questions to DOJ. Some suggested McNulty (DAG), but he didn't want to testify and recommended Moschella. After a few more emails, Sampson pushed for McNulty and I guess he finally acquiesced. Sampson's final email:

"We need to nail this down. I continue to think DAG ought to do it and really knock this down. Plus, he has a good relationship with Schumer. I know no one wants to do this hearing, but I think it needs to be done at a senior political level. I really think that Paul would be best. If he just will not do it, I don't know who else could do it. Maybe we can chat tomorrow."

Although I haven't made any general conclusions yet, my general impression is that McNulty was not a bad guy, nor did his testimony cave to Schumer. I think the above article is totally off base--conveniently published with help from someone who wants to point fingers somewhere (to save their tail). That's just a guess.

24 posted on 03/27/2007 11:16:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for update. My problem with all this is that Schumer just wants another scalp, and after that another scalp and another... all the while having talking points about "no confidence" and "corruption" in Justice Dept and AG - which would also have a detrimental effect on judicial appointments and nominations.

Since there is nothing there, if DoJ people just decided on a strategy and talk from the same page, there would be no need to for anyone to "save their tail". When it gets to pointing fingers, none will be left unscathed and everyone will suffer... most of all, us.

I hope they will get their act together, and not deviate from script. Dems know their plays by heart, they've been using the same MO for decades.


25 posted on 03/27/2007 11:56:23 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: factpolice
In '93 Clinton received letters of resignation from all the US attorneys as is traditional at the beginning of a new administration. It happens at the beginning of every new president's term.

I realize that. They serve at the convenience of the President. Saying that the situations are different, is simply an attempt to hide the fact that ALL removals of US attorneys by a president are done for political reasons. The only differences between now and then are:

1) Pres. Bush gave these attorneys a chance to work towards the goals he set forth as wanting met. In fact, IIRC, he kept them on, despite recommendations to release them at the beginning of his 2nd term.
2) The Dems are turning this into a manufactured scandal, in order to isolate the president from support. Those are the real facts that should be policed through this whole thing.

26 posted on 03/28/2007 8:22:32 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: calcowgirl; factpolice
Cowgirl:

I apologize for the delay in my response but I was awaiting factpolice's response. Factpolice signed up that day and to date has made only that single post, blandly suggesting that x42 did nothing unusual. That was the error of omission.

Personally, I viewed my response as a drive-by preemptive zot. ;-)

In fact, Reno's immediate firing of all 93 Us attorneys (after "consultations" with the Whitehouse)was unprecedented and many surmised that it was designed to cut off active investigations and prevent investigations of his Whitewater problems, fund-raising "irregularities", etc from the start.

As you are aware while political appointees may customarily submit their resignations to a new administration - they are generally replaced over a series of months as the new administration appoints and then has confirmed their selections.

I was not aware of the standard practice of submitting resignations to new administrations - I only recalled the brouhaha when Reno/Clinton fired all 93. I did run across this interesting blast from the past - note also how Linda Tripp was fired on the last full day of his administration for not "voluntarily" resigning:

Bill Clinton Saying Goodbye to the White House and the Independent Counsel


Unfortunately, a program lockup will force me to reset so here's some other unformatted links that outline x42's departure from "tradition".

FNC's Hume Chastises Media for Failing to Point Out How Clinton Fired Every Attorney
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800773/posts

Justice denied (Clinton fired 93 US attorneys)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1801515/posts

FNC's Hume Chastises Media for Failing to Point Out How Clinton Fired Every Attorney
http://newsbusters.org/node/11398

WHITE HOUSE AND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT - BEGIN U.S. ATTORNEY TRANSITION
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2001/March/107a.htm

Nets Didn't Care About Clinton Firing 93 U.S. Attorneys, Lead With Replacement of 8
http://newsbusters.org/node/11399

27 posted on 03/30/2007 12:21:18 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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