Posted on 03/19/2007 6:05:05 AM PDT by areafiftyone
March 19, 2007 6:00 AM
America Needs Rudy
The cases of Libby and Diallou.
By Barbara Lerner
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I don’t think Rudy Giuliani’s high poll numbers are a fluke or solely a result of his stellar performance in New York on 9/11. I don’t think they’ll drop and stay down when more conservatives learn more about his past marriages or his position on abortion, despite the importance of those issues. I think many Bush supporters, former Bush supporters, and others are drawn to Rudy by a powerful intuitive feeling that he has something America needs badly, something they can’t quite articulate yet, but feel strongly about. I think this feeling has its seedbed in a growing sense of unease and disappointment, not with George Bush as a man, or with his positions, but with his performance as a chief executive, and a gut-level sense that Rudy is a strong executive in precisely the ways in which Bush has, too often, proved to be a dishearteningly weak one. It is a sense that Rudy’s kind of executive leadership is what a nation at war needs most at the moment, and will continue to need most in the tough years many of us see ahead.
I think this popular intuition is on target, and the best way to see why is to take a close look at two actual situations call them two crises of legitimacy, one for Bush and one for Giuliani and the very different ways in which each man responded to them: the ongoing Libby case in Washington and the 1999 Diallou case in New York. Obvious surface differences notwithstanding, the two cases are strikingly similar. In each, powerful forces bitterly opposed to the chief executive’s most critical and defining policies Bush’s offensive against Islamofascist terror abroad, Giuliani’s offensive against rampant crime at home seized on what appeared to be a terrible crime committed by men implementing those policies. In each case, the opponents claimed that such crimes were the natural, inevitable result of fundamentally misbegotten policies, insisting that if the chief executive was to retain any legitimacy at all, he must loudly condemn them and take aggressive action to unmask and punish the perpetrators. In each case, a hostile press echoed and amplified the charges relentlessly, pounding away at the outrageous nature of the crimes and the need for immediate executive action to repudiate them.
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I acknowledge that Giuliani is tough, and would've responded to the media far better than Bush has.
But that does not excuse his liberal positions, nor does that mean there aren't better candidates out there.
We need a President Giuliani to go out there and do the things that may be unpopular, but it is in our best interest. The other guys seems to be poll watchers when it comes to making decesions. A President Giuliani would be able to communicate with the American people the importance of being on the offensive in the war on terror. That is something seriously lacking from George W. Bush.
Ping.
I can't wait for the debates.
Then the GOP base will seperate the wheat from the chaff.
You forgot the Barf alert. America needs Rudy to go back home and work on his makeup.
I've been wanting another hole in my head too! We'd be lucky it he was even a RINO.
That is exactly the point: Rudy will not stand around excusing his point of view on anything and he will not back down if he knows he is right. Some of the other candidates may be all very fine; they do not seem, however, to be able to gain much of a foothold, either because they do not have enough supporters or because they do not have the right stuff to be president. And being an arch-conservative does not, unfortunately, give you the right stuff automatically.
Just change the title of the article:
"America needs the end of Conservatism!"
How can we ever win again with it, anyway?
What a joke.
Well - it ain't gonna happen.
Or you could change the title to:
"America needs a liberal President" (BARF)
If he "wins" the WOT, but takes us into more socialism, higher taxes and more government...what makes him better than, say, Hillery? She has promised to do all that if elected.
Of all the bluster about "deployment", dates certain, cutting and running....blah blah blah...the WOT WILL continue....and it will have to be addressed by whoever's in the White House....for the terrorists will come "here" if we are not "there".
The only difference that I can see is that if Rudy's President, the terrorists will never get "here", but the socialization of America will continue full speed.
There has got to be a better presidential choice out there....but maybe not....we just may be doomed to live in the "Socalist States of America".
I will say, however, that if the choice comes down to "Dumbo" or Hillery vs. Rudy, I will not "stay home"....I will sadly troop down to my local polling place and vote for Rudy...
I can easily explain my approval of Guiliani.....
He threw Arafat out of Lincoln Center.
He does the right thing, no matter how many ACLU types are biting his ankles.
If I were defending Rudy, I wouldn't probably use an example of a case where his police force gunned down an unarmed man.
BTW, the book "Blink" by Malcolm Gladwell has a chapter on the Diallo incident which explains how otherwise good police officers can make tragic mistakes, and what you can do to prevent it.
I don't know if it's because of Malcolm, but a lot of police forces are adopting his policies regarding high-speed chases and training to prevent such tragedies from happening again.
Joe Lieberman supports the War on Terror. Doesn't mean he's not a liberal.
Same thing for Rudy.
As a managing partner of this lobbying firm, Rudy cannot dodge this one no matter how many times he cries in his Merlot over "political attacks".
If the shoe fits, on Rudy it'd be a high heel...
Giuliani was in Florida raising money at a New York Yankees spring training game. After the fundraiser, the former New York mayor watched the game from a front row seat directly behind Yankees manager Joe Torre. He discussed Chavez during the game, saying he is one of the reasons why the United States needs to develop alternative fuels and become energy independent.
"As the president I would make that my number one priority, the way Eisenhower and Kennedy made getting to the moon the number one priority of the American government. It has to consume a tremendous amount of our attention," Giuliani said
So, developing alternative energy is priority number one? What does making it the number one priority of the "American government" mean? What's Rudy's position on drilling in ANWR? How about nuclear energy?
Don't forget History and minor inconvenience of a record. Rudy CUT Taxes in NYC by a higher % than Bush.
As far as 9/11 goes Giuliani may have been the public face of the cleanup but he was far from being the sole person responsible for what happend in New York after 9/11. After 9/11 Giuliani became wealthy from speaking engagements and business deals that opened up for him after 9/11. I'm not too impressed with the past of Giuliani Capital Advisors either which made major money "handling" bankrupt companies.
Rudy has had two dead marriages, profited off those that died on 9/11 and off of dead companies. I'm not going to make the same mistake I made with George W. Bush and presume things about Giuliani that have no basis in fact. At this point I'm not too keen on "Rudy" because he seems to be integrity umpaired.
Told that Saudi Sheik to stuff his $20M.
Track Record of Cutting Taxes. (Did a higher % in NYC than Bush did for the country.
Wouldnt meet with Al Sharpton.
The list goes on.
Yeah ...like getting rid of the second amendment, and allowing amnesty for illegal aliens. What this country needs is a president who believes in more rights for homosexuals whether it's the will of the people or not.
In other words... you're using very liberal logic (if it isn't too much of a stretch to call that kind of thinking "logic".)
This is absurd. There is no proof that he can withstand global pressure to continue this fight any more than Bush.
And if you don't know what that means sorry.
We know what that means. He's just on the wrong team.
"If I were defending Rudy, I wouldn't probably use an example of a case where his police force gunned down an unarmed man. "
Agreed. While this article tries to paint it in a favorable light, others do not.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0011,noel,13270,1.html
I know I chose a source unfavorable to Rudy, but so what. We can't rely solely on Deroy Murdock pimpin' articles. The article above describes portrays this incident as cops out of control with no oversight.
Oh, I agree; we need a more hard-nosed candidate than Bush.
But I'm not going to compromise for a liberal like Giuliani just because he's hard-nosed.
And by the way, your tagline needs correcting. It should read "My 80% enemy is NOT my 20% ally."
And he is articulate. This is essential for a POTUS. Bush has suffered greatly due to his inability to articulate his positions in a cogent, convincing manner. That may seem like a superficial problem, but it's not. By the way, McCain is also very articulate, as is Romney and probably Fred Thompson too. I am so tired of cringing when Bush speaks, waiting for the inevitable verbal gaffe. It doesn't make him a bad person, but it has harmed him as a leader.
Why would someone who doesn't agree with the majority of his views vote for him simply because he'll force them through?
Your point sounds more like a solid reason to find another candidate.
So does Hillary. What's your point?
"We need a President Giuliani to go out there and do the things that may be unpopular, but it is in our best interest. "
Like grabbing our guns?
I've been a Bush supporter since 1999, but I've been disappointed in his leadership the last year or so...and I'm looking forward to a leader like Rudy winning the presidency in 2008. Someone who's not afraid to tell the liberals and MSM to STFU!
I've been a Bush supporter since 1999, but I've been disappointed in his leadership the last year or so...and I'm looking forward to a leader like Rudy winning the presidency in 2008. Someone who's not afraid to tell the liberals and MSM to STFU!
Was that when his wife was performing on stage in "Vagina Monologues" then?
Rudy was horn doggin around before that.
Protests multiplied, and his poll numbers took a 20-point hit, but Giuliani stood his ground, defending his men and the policies they risked their lives to carry out with passion and conviction. The result was that although his popularity suffered temporarily, the policies and programs he put in place to restore his city to its former greatness remained fully in effect, and all the eagles and potential eagles in his police force, and in all the other city agencies answerable to him, were strengthened in their commitment to work for the positive changes he championed.
I remember this like it was yesterday. It was on the CT news every night and even the locals hammered Rudy.
And much as I appreciate the president's desire to change the tone in Washington, it clearly hasn't worked and all things considered, I like Rudy's style much, much better. One is able to defend one's policies without getting into the gutter with the Democrats, and Rudy does it well.
This is NOT a Deroy Murdock article. Check out the author first.
I remember too. He's not like Bloomberg who immediately ran in front of the tv cameras recently saying the recent shooting seemed like excessive force to me.
Trust me he is not toucking the 2nd amendment and he will not give amnesty like Ronald Reagan did in the 80's. He has learned from that.
Rudy does not believe in more rights for Homosexuals. THe fact is he is against gay marriage and supports domestic partnerships only so that they could have the same rights that you and I enjoy. No matter what your opinion on homosexuals, they deserve to be treated equally. I am sure that our current president feels the same.
He is only gonna grab the criminals guns.
Isn't that what you want???
Or are drive bys ok with you???
I think the better comparison is that Rudy would back our troops the way he backed the "troops" on the streets of NYC against the Sharptons and MSM attacks.
Like I said...if it comes to a choice between dumbo or hillery vs. Rudy...I will go with Rudy.....hoping for the best, and knowing for a fact that there would have been a better choice for conservatives.
Rudy is striking a chord with those of us who were Bush supporters and are stunned at his inabilities to fight both islamofascists and democrats.
Got a couple hundred THOUSAND people off welfare and to work!
Rudy has, throughout his entire career, worked diligently to oppose the second amendment. He has sued gun companies for damages when people used their products for illegal acts. He has enforced a no tolerance policy where old men are forced to do jail time for firearms possession after shooting criminals attacking them in their own home, in clear defense of their lives. Trust you? I don't think so.
And for your information gay people already had all the same rights as you and I. Domestic partnership is not about them having the same rights, it's about them having additional rights. They could already marry anyone they wanted to, and that marriage was subject to the same definitional restrictions as it was for everyone else. But now... now they have a special category of rights just for them. It's a new right...one that doesn't apply to the rest of us, unless of course there is now such a thing as heterosexual domestic partnership where we can get the government benefits of marriage without the massive legal liability.
Look Brett, I know your heart is in the right place or you wouldn't be here, so I don't want to be too nasty. But you seriously need to read up a little here. And "trust me" is not what anyone will call "reasoned debate".
As for Rudy being "tough", he's just a cream puff suburbanite from Lawn Guyland who would be nothing without a posse of Orange County Cowboys surrounding him.
To paraphrase an old feminazi saying, America needs Rudy like a fish needs a bicycle. Eurostatist "Lawr and Or-dah" positions and thumbing one's nose at Arabs for the Jewish vote are no substitute for competant management (as opposed to obsessive micromanagement on one or two issues; Daley and Bloomberg are actually better on these), a knowledge of constitutional principles, a set of personal ethics (Rudy is a textbook example of situational ethics), and being part of the AMERICAN tradition of liberty and rugged individualism (New York was and is a Eurosocialist city, Rudy is just a Chirac to Cuomo's Mitterand).
There y'all go again.
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