Posted on 03/16/2007 12:38:16 PM PDT by Pyro7480
last sentence, "Government should NOT"...
Another case of a man with feet of clay (either without the courage of his convictions, or without convictions). Should the church excommunicate?
You said "allowing" the morning after pill doesn't make one CINO. Did you mean to say "mandating" the morning after pill doesn't make one CINO? I hope not.
It is one thing for us to live amongst others who don't share St. Ambrose's teaching that we are to treat as human that which has the potential to be human. This we can do. It is another thing for us to be "mandated" by the government that, as a condition of operating a hospital, we have to provide this which to us is anathema. This we must resist. Operating hospitals is an exercise of liberty. It is a God-given right. We accept that the government, in the exercise of its police powers, may lisence and regulate hospitals in matters such as the public health. We accept that there may be some tension between this power and liberty. But we must also insist that the government recognize a limitation on its police power.
What I just said is unobjectionable. At some point, Christians must and will resist tyrrany. Those who try to push us into the cesspool of secular humanism will eventually find the point at which they push too far.
I like your style!
God bless!
Minucius Felix
"There are some [pagan] women who, by drinking medical preparations, extinguish the source of the future man in their very bowels and thus commit a parricide before they bring forth. And these things assuredly come down from the teaching of your [false] gods. . . . To us [Christians] it is not lawful either to see or hear of homicide" (Octavius 30 [A.D. 226]).
Hippolytus
"Women who were reputed to be believers began to take drugs to render themselves sterile, and to bind themselves tightly so as to expel what was being conceived, since they would not, on account of relatives and excess wealth, want to have a child by a slave or by any insignificant person. See, then, into what great impiety that lawless one has proceeded, by teaching adultery and murder at the same time!" (Refutation of All Heresies [A.D. 228]).
> They are dictating that they have to pay someone to tell
> someone how to kill a baby.
So long as they are specifying that medically sound, true, information about an available procedure be made available to the patient, AND so long as they don't restrict the organization from adding its own, moral, opinion of such procedure, it doesn't seem like that much of a problem.
Is a good act that only happened because of ignorance really good? I don't think Augustine would have agreed.
> Government has no right to tell a private institution to
> provide information that would cause it to consider its
> own conscience betrayed by the act itself.
I'm no big fan of government action in most cases. No situation is so dire or urgent that the government can't make it worse is an axiom in my political universe.
But... it seems the Catholic authorities in Colorado don't agree that this law is particularly troubling:
"We are pleased to see the inclusion of a moral/religious exemption to health care professionals who do not wish to provide information concerning emergency contraception, and the specification which states hospitals shall not be required to provide emergency contraception to a pregnant woman," officials at Centura Health, which represents seven Catholic hospitals in the state, said in a statement Thursday.
The Colorado Catholic Conference referred to Feb. 1 statements issued by the state's three bishops, including Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput, which said that while the bill couldn't be considered "good" legislation, it still allowed Catholic medical facilities "to cooperate without violating their Catholic character."
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/government/article/0,2777,DRMN_23906_5421658,00.html
...judgment begins with the household of God...
He's a real Catholic, isn't he?
If he can just forget about the Pope and Church teachings.
Darn that Pope, I am a Demon rat.
It never occurred to me to look for Fr. Corapi on Youtube! Thank you for sharing that. I love that man!
'Catholic' IS supposed to mean something.
Exactly. And if the Supreme Court decides against the Church, then every Catholic hospital should shut their doors and let all the other hospitals pick up the slack.
Excommunication is not appropriate when political issues are involved. But the bishop ought to take to the pulpit and explain IN DETAIL how this policy is incompatible with Catholic teachings.
It's been lot's of fun in CO since the Rats took over, the legislation coming down is horrific. Lots of anti life, anti 2nd, pro immigrant, pro universal health care, blah blah blah.
Yuck !
"Excommunication is not appropriate when political issues are involved. But the bishop ought to take to the pulpit and explain IN DETAIL how this policy is incompatible with Catholic teachings."
I, respectfully, disagree this ceased to become political when this governor mandated that a private hospital ignore it's core values and belief system.
Catholics generally are in need of catechesis. The bishop might take this occasion to spell out in detail what the teachings of the Church is. They are unlikely to get it from their priests.
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