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Rochester City School District Newsletter Supports Ebonics
WHAM TV 13 ^ | 3-15-07 | Rachel Barnhart

Posted on 03/15/2007 5:40:33 PM PDT by Ouderkirk

(Rochester, N.Y.) – It’s called Black English Vernacular – or more commonly – Ebonics.

In a newsletter to staff, Rochester City School District officials say it is okay for students and teachers to speak Ebonics in class.

The newsletter is called Diversity Dialogue. It suggests teachers use BEV to communicate with students. It says teachers can:

• “Switch into BEV in specific situations or informal discussion.”

• "Translate common phrases in Standard English into BEV.”

• “Read and retell stories in both BEV and Standard English.”

“We need to embrace the diversity they bring into our schools,” said the district’s Chief of Diversity and Leadership, Michele Hancock.

Hancock and Tyra Webb-Johnson, Director of Coaching and Leadership wrote the newsletter. They are both former elementary school principals.

“We want (teachers) to have a better understanding of what BEV is so they can incorporate it into their teaching. That way, they're not alienating the students who are speaking the vernacular and degrading them,” Webb-Johnson said.

Ebonics was debated nationally in 1996 when the Oakland, California school district proposed using it in the curriculum.

Ebonics is defined as a speech pattern used by some African Americans that does not follow standard grammar.

“No matter how you speak, you do need to learn the standard form so you can embrace the larger audience of people,” Hancock said. “But you can hold on to the richness of your family environment and not feel that is beneath any standard of living.”

Hancock says many people, including her own son, who graduated from college, know how to "code switch" between Standard English and Ebonics. She said students must learn to be proficient in Standard English.

“Many African Americans are bi-dialectic in their speech patterns. I think it's critical teachers understand those speech patterns so they can effectively, visually show children how they are speaking, but not to denigrate it, but to celebrate it,” Hancock said.

13WHAM News showed the newsletter to several black leaders in the community.

“Anybody who suggests that these kids will lose their identity because they cannot be, should not be encouraged to speak Ebonics is wrong,” said school board member Van White, who is pushing to create an African American studies department in the district. “We are not African Americans because of how we speak, but who we are as a people.”

“I understand there's a need for teachers and students to meet on some common plane, but I'm not sure expressing that as Ebonics as that plane is a way to go,” said City Councilman Adam McFadden.

“It's acceptable in hip hop culture, but I don't think anyone would suggest the way forward for students already coming to school with severe educational deficiencies is to maintain a deficient language pattern,” said former Mayor William Johnson.

Johnson and then-Police Chief Bob Duffy fired a white police officer for writing a memo called “Ghetto Lingo,” which claimed to translate English phrases into African American vernacular.

Hancock and Webb-Johnson say many white teachers come to them for help communicating with students. The BEV suggestion is not a mandate, they said.

“It doesn't hurt the kids. What we're saying to the children is we value what you bring. You have value,” said Hancock.


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And Superintendant Manuel Rivera is going to Governor Spitzer's Education department...so much for the schools in NY
1 posted on 03/15/2007 5:40:39 PM PDT by Ouderkirk
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To: Ouderkirk

LOL...


2 posted on 03/15/2007 5:43:02 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Ouderkirk

Hillary to be guest ebonics speaker.


3 posted on 03/15/2007 5:47:21 PM PDT by Ellesu
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To: Ouderkirk

Get your kids the he<< out of publics schools as fast as you can. This is a prime example of why school vouchers are necessary. What absolute garbage!


4 posted on 03/15/2007 5:48:07 PM PDT by laweeks (I)
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To: Ellesu

I don't feel no ways tired.


5 posted on 03/15/2007 5:48:32 PM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Ouderkirk
I guess it was only a matter of time before another school district tried it again. Wonder if they'll be any backlash from the public because of it (I'm sure the NEA will support it).
6 posted on 03/15/2007 5:49:49 PM PDT by teacherwoes (A fugitive from a Democrat Congress)
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To: Ouderkirk


Hukd un Ebonikks - it be wurk for me. :D


7 posted on 03/15/2007 5:51:42 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Ouderkirk

Wow, I can't wait until they approve Arabic being used in the classroom. Thank God I'm on the tail-end of my life. This country is doomed.


8 posted on 03/15/2007 5:52:16 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

you wan a brink wif at Dig Mac


9 posted on 03/15/2007 5:54:16 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Lets not correct them lets join them, its easier to give up than to fight! This is what we pore millions of dollars into each year. Does anyone see the schools getting any better, I thought so!


10 posted on 03/15/2007 5:59:41 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I)
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To: Ouderkirk

One must AXE, why?


11 posted on 03/15/2007 6:00:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Ouderkirk

LOL
Thirty years ago we lived in Oakland, CA and put our kids through private schools because the standard joke was that if they attended public schools they would learn to conjugate the verb 'to be' as "I be, you be, he be...." Amazing that this nonsense is still around.


12 posted on 03/15/2007 6:01:26 PM PDT by hardworking (The 'best' Republican candidate is the one that can defeat Hitlery-Osama. Period.)
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To: Ouderkirk
I've been working in Rochester recently.

I think Ebonics could be the only shot they have.

What a dump (my apologies to any Rochesterites)!!!

13 posted on 03/15/2007 6:02:20 PM PDT by wireman
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To: buccaneer81

i axed you if u wanna brink wif dat BigMac, o is u gonna eet dat wif nuffin


14 posted on 03/15/2007 6:05:10 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Asssss da ledder of this-in hear skool I declar tha iss OK fer all dem studens to be larnin dis way a'talk so-as theys can git themsefs a gud job whenin theys git they-selves outen da skool an ifen some company don'an hire them den dose employers dey be discriminatin do-un yous know?


15 posted on 03/15/2007 6:06:23 PM PDT by hardworking (The 'best' Republican candidate is the one that can defeat Hitlery-Osama. Period.)
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To: Ouderkirk
“Read and retell stories in both BEV and Standard English.”

BEFORE:
"O Romeo, Romeo! wherefore art thou Romeo?
Deny thy father and refuse thy name!
Or, if thou wilt not, be but sworn my love,
And I'll no longer be a Capulet."

AFTER:
"Yo, Romeo, Romeo! Why you gotta be a Romeo?
Dis your momma's baby daddy and don't be having his name!
But if you don't be doing that, you gots to say you is, like, down with me, fo ever,
And I be all, "child, I ain't no motherf*ckin' Capulet no more. Word."

16 posted on 03/15/2007 6:06:23 PM PDT by Mordacious
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To: Mordacious

LOL As a once-upon-a-time a long time ago English major, I say ole man that is good work!


17 posted on 03/15/2007 6:08:33 PM PDT by hardworking (The 'best' Republican candidate is the one that can defeat Hitlery-Osama. Period.)
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To: Ouderkirk
"Translate common phrases in Standard English into BEV.”

Will they provide English/BEV dictionaries for teachers?

18 posted on 03/15/2007 6:10:13 PM PDT by Sender (Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.)
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To: Tzimisce
Hukd un Ebonikks - it be wurk for me. :D

Next they can produce a Black Barbie: "English be hard!"

19 posted on 03/15/2007 6:10:17 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tzimisce
Hukd un Ebonikks - it be wurk for me. :D

Next they can produce a Black Barbie: "English be hard!"

20 posted on 03/15/2007 6:10:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ouderkirk
Excuse me Sister. I speak jive.

21 posted on 03/15/2007 6:13:48 PM PDT by Toggameid
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To: Ouderkirk
Image hosted by Photobucket.com listen stooopid... that ignorant ghetto trash talk is NOT spoken in the JOB MARKET!!! but you knew that... right???
22 posted on 03/15/2007 6:14:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Ouderkirk
The article translated into Ebonics:

Rochester City School District Newsletter Supports Ebonics WHAM TV 13 ^ | 3-15-07 | Rachel Barnhart

(Rochester, N.Y.) – It’s called Black English Vernacular – or mo' commonly – Ebonics.

In uh newsletter ta staff, Rochester City School District officials say it iz okay fo' students an' teachers ta speak Ebonics in class.

The newsletter iz called Diversity Dialogue. It suggests teachers use BEV ta communicate wiff students. It says teachers can:

• “Switch into BEV in specific situations or informal discussion.”

• "Translate common phrases in Standard English into BEV.”

• “Read an' retell stories in both BEV an' Standard English.”

“We need ta embrace da diversity dey bring into our schools,” said da district’s Chief o' Diversity an' Leadership, Michele Hancock.

Hancock an' Tyra Webb-Johnson, Director o' Coaching an' Leadership wrote da newsletter. They iz both former elementary skoo principals.

“We wants (teachers) ta gots uh bettah understanding o' what BEV iz so dey can incorporate it into they teaching. That way, they're not alienating da students who iz speaking da vernacular an' degrading dem,” Webb-Johnson said.

Ebonics wuz debated nationally in 1996 when da Oakland, California skoo district proposed usin' it in da curriculum.

Ebonics iz defined as uh speech pattern used by some African Americans dat do not follow standard grammar.

“No matter how ya speak, ya do need ta learn da standard form so ya can embrace da larger audience o' peeps,” Hancock said. “But ya can hold on ta da richness o' yo' family environment an' not feel dat iz beneath any standard o' living.”

Hancock says many peeps, including her own son, who graduated from college, know how ta "code switch" between Standard English an' Ebonics. She said students mus' learn ta be proficient in Standard English.

“Many African Americans iz bi-dialectic in they speech patterns. I th'o't it'scritical teachers dig' those speech patterns so dey can effectively, visually show chil'ns how dey iz speaking, but not ta denigrate it, but ta celebrate it,” Hancock said.

13WHAM News showed da newsletter ta several negroid leaders in da community.

“Anybody who suggests dat deez kids will lose they identity cuz dey cannot be, should not be encouraged ta speak Ebonics iz wrong,” said skoo board member Van White, who iz pushing ta create an African American studies department in da district. “We iz not African Americans cuz o' how we's speak, but who we's iz as uh peeps.”

“I dig' dere'suh need fo' teachers an' students ta meet on some common plane, but I'm not sure expressing dat as Ebonics as dat plane iz uh way ta jet,” said City Councilman Adam McFadden.

“It'sacceptable in hip hop culture, but I don' th'o't anyone would suggest da way forward fo' students already coming ta skoo wiff severe educational deficiencies iz ta maintain uh deficient language pattern,” said former Mayor William Johnson.

Johnson an' then-Police Chief Bob Duffy fired uh whitey po-po officer fo' writing uh memo called “Ghetto Lingo,” which claimed ta translate English phrases into African American vernacular.

Hancock an' Webb-Johnson say many whitey teachers come ta dem fo' he`p communicating wiff students. The BEV suggestion iz not uh mandate, dey said.

“It don' hurt da kids. What We be saying ta da chil'ns iz we's value what ya bring. You gots value,” said Hancock. you know das right!

23 posted on 03/15/2007 6:15:19 PM PDT by shortstop ( Win One For the Gipper)
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To: Ouderkirk

Then there's no hope for them.

Ebonics and "million man math" so the school system can turn out complete losers, ready to take their places as crack dealers, pimps and welfare bums.


24 posted on 03/15/2007 6:16:20 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: hardworking
LOL As a once-upon-a-time a long time ago English major, I say ole man that is good work!

Thanks. I'm tempted to translate the whole thing and sell it to the Rochester school district for an exorbitant sum of money :)

25 posted on 03/15/2007 6:18:13 PM PDT by Mordacious
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To: Ouderkirk

Someone needs to post that "Not this sh!t again!" pic.


26 posted on 03/15/2007 6:19:28 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Ouderkirk

I was spoken to in ebonics today and, believe me, it was not a diverse and rich experience.


27 posted on 03/15/2007 6:19:29 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Ouderkirk

My name is BEV. I think I object.


28 posted on 03/15/2007 6:20:10 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Chode
Yup...learn the lingua franca--or don't.

:-)

29 posted on 03/15/2007 6:25:37 PM PDT by bannie
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To: hinckley buzzard
This reminds me of that group who opened a chain of toy stores in the 'hood' to compete with a prominent national chain.

We Be Toys an' Sh*t

.

Seriously, these 'educators' obviously deeply loathe these students and are hell-bent on insuring their failure in life. I really dispise their ilk.

Nam Vet

30 posted on 03/15/2007 6:26:31 PM PDT by Nam Vet ( The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.)
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To: Ouderkirk

And when they graduate, they'll go on to become ER doctors, flight traffic controllers, and so on, jobs where clear and fast oral communications are essential. Yeah, that'll be great, that'll work. Very diverse and multicultural.


31 posted on 03/15/2007 6:28:34 PM PDT by omnivore
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To: Mordacious
Now THAT is a riot!

Saving.

32 posted on 03/15/2007 6:30:23 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: wireman
Upstate NY was killed by 40 years of liberalism--they made it impossible for industry to survive. Rochester, Syracuse, Buffalo...sacrificed to the demonrat God of money transfer to the state. Sad.

But Hillary! said she would help...

33 posted on 03/15/2007 6:32:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: omnivore
Many will not graduate. There is one school that had only a 47% graduation rate. All ebonics does is create people that can't get jobs because they cannot function in the real world. These "educators" need to be jailed for destroying society.

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=271849b1-0437-4bc2-b709-1057757bd2fc

34 posted on 03/15/2007 6:35:02 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Toggameid

The opening Jive Scene from "Airplane!"

(Translation in parentheses.)

Jiveman #1: Sheeeet, man, that honkey mus' be messin' my old lady got to be runnin' col' upsihd down his head! (Golly, that white fellow should stay away from my wife or I will punch him.)
Jiveman #2: Hey Holm, I can dig it! You know he ain't gonna lay no mo' big rap upon you man! (Yes, he is wrong for doing that.)
Jiveman #1: I say hey sky, s'other say I won say I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. (I knew a man in a similar predicament, and he ended up being sorry.)
Jiveman #2: Knock yourself a pro slick. Gray matter back got perform' us' down I take TCBin, man'. (Don't be naive Arthur. Each of us faces a clear moral choice.)
Jiveman #1: You know wha' they say: See a broad to get that bodiac lay'er down an' smack 'em yack 'em. (Early to bed, early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.)
Together: Col' got to be! Yo! (How true!)
Together: Sh010039et! (Golly!)


The Jive Dudes orderin' dinner

Elaine: Would you gentleman care to order your dinners?
Jiveman #1: Bet babe, slide a piece a da porter, drink si' run th' java. (I would like the steak please.)
Jiveman #2: Lookie here, I can dig grease and butter on some draggin' fruit garden. (I'll have the fish.)


The Jive Dudes, a mystery illness, and Barbara Billingsley...

Attendant: Can I get you something?
Jiveman #2: S'mo fo butter layin' to the bone. Jackin' me up. Tightly.
Attendant: I'm sorry I don't understand.
Jiveman #1: Cutty say he cant hang.
Woman : Oh stewardess, I speak jive.
Attendant: Ohhhh, good.
Woman : He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.
Attendant: Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as soon as I can with some medicine.
Woman : Jus' hang loose blooood. She goonna catch up on the`rebound a de medcide.
Jiveman #2: What it is big mamma, my mamma didn't raise no dummy, I dug her rap.
Woman : Cut me som' slac' jak! Chump don wan no help, chump don git no help. Jive ass dude don got no brains anyhow.


Audio available here:

http://larry.teamoverkill.com/jive/


35 posted on 03/15/2007 6:35:11 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Ouderkirk
If the author is going to refer to black people as "African Americans", it seems only fair that white people should be referred to as "European Americans".

Johnson and then-Police Chief Bob Duffy fired a white European American police officer for writing a memo called “Ghetto Lingo,” which claimed to translate English phrases into African American vernacular.

36 posted on 03/15/2007 6:37:08 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: The Mayor; neverdem

ping


37 posted on 03/15/2007 6:43:56 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; BlackElk; blu; cgk; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the "other" articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.
38 posted on 03/15/2007 6:44:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ouderkirk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0lR1KQq2-U


39 posted on 03/15/2007 6:49:05 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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I'm from Rochester and it doesn't matter what they call it in our city school system. They are totally inept at teaching anything in those failing urban hell holes they try to pass as schools. Just another push for socialism. Amen.


40 posted on 03/15/2007 6:52:53 PM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"“No matter how you speak, you do need to learn the standard form so you can embrace the larger audience of people,” Hancock said. “But you can hold on to the richness of your family environment and not feel that is beneath any standard of living.”"

Now lets see how many employers out there are going to hire these kids when they graduate and can only speak gibberish. Amen.
41 posted on 03/15/2007 6:56:37 PM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Ouderkirk

OMG..... Buffalo will be next..
I was just at a re-election dinner for a Buffalo school board member. He would go crazy if it hit the floor.


42 posted on 03/15/2007 6:57:46 PM PDT by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: Ouderkirk
you wan a brink wif at Dig Mac

Fo' schnizzle, bruh!

43 posted on 03/15/2007 6:58:08 PM PDT by Ignatz ("I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad.")
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To: neverdem; birdsman; Victoria Delsoul; nicmarlo; deadhead; DollyCali; eleni121; rocky88; Mr. K; ...

Lookie here.. NY Ping.


44 posted on 03/15/2007 7:04:19 PM PDT by The Mayor ( http://albanysinsanity.com/)
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To: Ouderkirk
Johnson and then-Police Chief Bob Duffy fired a white police officer for writing a memo called “Ghetto Lingo,” which claimed to translate English phrases into African American vernacular.

Why? Wasn't he simply doing what the school district suggests..."Translate common phrases in Standard English into BEV.” ?

45 posted on 03/15/2007 7:07:32 PM PDT by montag813
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To: metmom

PING


46 posted on 03/15/2007 7:10:21 PM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Mordacious

Brilliant. You should copyright it before the Hildebeast steals it.


47 posted on 03/15/2007 7:13:19 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Ouderkirk; Slings and Arrows; hardworking; Sender; hinckley buzzard; Larry Lucido; martin_fierro
Now this is it! School time for us! It's where all the COOL CAT DADDIES hang out.

BENEFITS INCLUDE: Pimpin' them honeys, rockin' the block, and bein HARDCORE THUG GANGSTAS!!!!


48 posted on 03/15/2007 7:15:28 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: metmom; doorgunner69; Ouderkirk; The Mayor

Someone needs to post that "Not this sh!t again!" pic.

Enter aw jeez searching images at Yahoo, Google, etc.

49 posted on 03/15/2007 7:18:16 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Ouderkirk

I believe it was Walter Williams that I heard on the radio. He said that ebonics is prison language. If you see that your future lies in prison then learn ebonics. If you see that your future lies in business, then learn standard English.


50 posted on 03/15/2007 7:19:10 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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