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The Immigration Minefield
Politico.com ^ | 3/8/07 | Roger Simon

Posted on 03/08/2007 9:12:33 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 03/08/2007 9:12:34 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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A mine field might not be a bad idea. Cheaper than a wall.


2 posted on 03/08/2007 9:13:19 AM PST by LIConFem (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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"People come here and are productive. But there is a legal way to do that."

Bump. They should also try to assimilate, too.

3 posted on 03/08/2007 9:21:10 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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Martinez said Republicans must back more than border security if they are to survive politically. The party, he believes, must back legislation that will lead to the "regularization" of illegal immigrants already in this country.
4 posted on 03/08/2007 9:21:28 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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Martinez, who is also the junior senator from Florida and the first Cuban-American to serve in the Senate, said the issue is unifying in one respect: It is uniting Hispanic voters against the Republican Party.


Funny, I know lots of LEGAL hispanics and they all despise illegals. They call them 'oaxacans' (spelling) and it sounds like they are spitting when they say it.


6 posted on 03/08/2007 9:23:04 AM PST by sheana
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"The party, he believes, must back legislation that will lead to the "regularization" of illegal immigrants already in this country."

So that's why they're pimping rudy for president.

So now the GOP will be the War & hold the line on taxes party. And what else?


7 posted on 03/08/2007 9:23:22 AM PST by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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Martinez said Republicans ... must back legislation that will lead to the "regularization" of illegal immigrants already in this country.

Mr. Martinez, the people would back "regularization" if they could trust you and the rest of the yahoos in Congress to secure the border. YOU are not trustworthy.

8 posted on 03/08/2007 9:25:40 AM PST by JoeGar
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President Bush has shown he thinks Loyalty is a one way street by appointing an open border RNC chairman!

Thanks for the ping.
Duncan Hunter will give top down loyalty which is unknown by nearly all politicians.

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There is a great deal of talk about loyalty from the bottom to the top.
Loyalty from the top down is even more necessary and much less prevalent.

George S. Patton, Jr.,
9 posted on 03/08/2007 9:26:41 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (!yaw gnorw eht su ekat lliw noitartsinimdA inailuiG A)
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"lots of LEGAL hispanics and they all despise illegals. They call them 'oaxacans' (spelling)"

Could there be some racism in play there? Oaxaca is a poor state in southern Mexico with a large Amerindian population (compared with Mexicans of European and mixed Amerindian/European descent).

Are your Mexican/Mexican descended acquaintances light skinned or mestizos?

10 posted on 03/08/2007 9:28:21 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

at play.


11 posted on 03/08/2007 9:28:42 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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"Martinez said Republicans must back more than border security if they are to survive politically. The party, he believes, must back legislation that will lead to the "regularization" of illegal immigrants already in this country".

How about the "DEPORTATION" of ILLEGAL ALIENS/IMMIGRANTS/MIGRANTS/STEALTH BORDER CROSSERS!!!!!! How about these scum-bag politicains quit worrying about the survival of their parties, and start worrying about the survial of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.!!!!!!


12 posted on 03/08/2007 9:29:30 AM PST by Msgt USMC (Lead, follow, or get the heck outta the way!)
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Rudy Gulliani: A Leader for our Nation:

Rudy Giuliani, who has been sympathetic to immigration in the past but is not taking a high-profile role on the issue at the moment.

Michael DuHaime, executive director of the Giuliani campaign, tried to wend his way through the minefield. "I think this is an issue that is going to be talked about, but in a much larger, broader context," he said. "It is a key issue, but there are other much larger and broader issues, like cutting taxes and cutting spending."

But remember, we should vote for Giuliani, because even though he's wrong on most issues that matter to us, he's a real leader......

13 posted on 03/08/2007 9:30:24 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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I know where Oaxaca is, have been there. My friends are all just regular Mexican descendants. They aren't racist. They are full of diversity, isn't that the key word? They have caucasian and black friends, most are firefighters and their wives, and that is definitely a diversified bunch.

So now we are putting the 'racist' tag on Americans of Mexican descent too? All because they don't like illegal immigration either.
Simply amazing!


14 posted on 03/08/2007 9:31:56 AM PST by sheana
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To: NormsRevenge

Has anybody noticed how the pro-Rudy folks seem to avoid any discussion that doesn't start with one of their own pro-rudy media pieces?


15 posted on 03/08/2007 9:32:20 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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It wasn't "all because" that at ALL. In fact it wasn't because of that. It was because of their use of oaxacans as a slur for illegal aliens, thus linking illegal aliens with a specific region and people group.
16 posted on 03/08/2007 9:35:13 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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It would be akin to when Americans are discussing illegal aliens they sneer, "Mexicans" and sound as though they are spitting out the word.

Does that make sense?

17 posted on 03/08/2007 9:38:07 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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It is uniting Hispanic voters against the Republican Party.

If the Republican party had taken this issue to task decades ago, this wouldn't be a problem because there would only be a small fraction of the "Hispanic voters" than there are now.

They made their bed, now let them lie in it.

18 posted on 03/08/2007 9:39:02 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Democrats: Best friends of America's WORST enemies!)
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Anyone who votes for lawbreakers based on a shared ethnicity is probably never going to vote conservative anyway.


19 posted on 03/08/2007 9:50:46 AM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks
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To: NormsRevenge; sheana; flashbunny; JoeGar; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; Jedi Master Pikachu; Msgt USMC

What do you guys and gals think of the following compromise solution regarding the illegals already here?

They would be offered a MODIFIED permanent residency with no possibility to become citizens or have the right to vote. Additionally they would not have the right to sponsor anyone else here.

Of course before doing this the border would need to be shut down to illegal migration.

The thing that I like about this is that:
1. it would freeze the problem where it is. With any "path to citizenship" or even permanent residency, we would get flooded with tens of millions of new LEGAL immigrants (all the relatives that they would sponsor over)
2. it would constitute a meaningful and appropriate punishment for coming here illegally, so it satisfies the "fairness" aspect vis-a-vis those that wait and do it right.
3. it constitutes a practical solution, whereas the "deport them all" is highly unlikely to ever happen.
4. it avoids the economic dislocation of thousands of businesses if they were indeed deported

I look forward to your comments.


20 posted on 03/08/2007 9:51:51 AM PST by aquila48
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