Neutralize Your Pollution; Fight Global Warming

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[Winged Hussar]

You can neutralize the rest of your pollution—through offsets. When you buy offsets, you essentially pay someone to reduce or remove global warming pollution in your name.

For example, when you buy 10 tons of carbon offsets, the seller guarantees that 10 fewer tons of global warming pollution go into the atmosphere. While the pollution you produce yourself is the same, you get the credit for that 10-ton reduction.

[Winged Hussar]

"We come not to praise Environmental Defense, but to bury it." The above is posted entirely for the purpose of criticism, ridicule, and public exposure. Environmental Defense, the Ad Council, and the Robertson Foundation keep running ads for this on the radio, and it is time to expose it for what it is.

Even Chemical & Engineering News' Bette Hileman ("A Dubious Way Out of CO2 Emissions," 2/19/07), who is normally in favor of the United States reducing its greenhouse gas emissions, has compared the sale of offsets to the medieval practice of selling people indulgances for their sins. Here is what Carbonfund.org offers to do:

Car (5 tons) $25.00

Person (10 tons) $50.00

Zero Carbon (18 tons)$90.00

Go Zero Carbon for just $7.50 a month, and get five tons free!

We can just imagine one of those pardoners or whomever wandering around 600 years ago telling superstitious medieval peasants, "Buy 10000 years from your sentence in Purgatory, and get 5000 years free!" (What they would do is sell you "indulgences," or forgiveness for your sins, which meant your soul had to spend less time in Purgatory before going on to Heaven. If you felt that your own soul was in good shape, you could buy indulgences for your deceased relatives!) We have also compared the greenhouse gas SCAM to Aztec human sacrifices, with Al Gore being the High Priest and Holy Profit, excuse us, Prophet, of the global warming religion:

Carbonfund.org receives donations via Groundspring.org, which is part of the Tides Foundation. FrontPage Magazine (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7835) reports, "George Soros has given the Tides empire more than $7 million."

So it looks like we are looking at yet more tentacles of the Soros-Occupied Government (SOG). (Note the Tides Foundation at the upper left.)

Important campaign slogan for 2008, to derail pro-Kyoto candidates: "REAL DEMOCRATS DON'T DESTROY WORKING PEOPLE'S JOBS SO BIG CORPORATIONS CAN RAKE IN PROFITS." (Many beneficiaries of greenhouse gas regulations would in fact be big corporations that would be paid extra for implementing existing business plans, or for not emitting greenhouse gases--remember the old joke about being paid for not raising hogs?) This will drive a wedge between the Soros/MoveOn.org Democrats and the Democrats' base, and cost people elections. Meanwhile, we are getting more global warming all over our roads and sidewalks this evening:

[kinoxi]

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[Dallas59]

Bunnys produce more pollution than any other creature...

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Ping for your GW List.

[Publius6961]

You can neutralize the rest of your pollution—through offsets. When you buy offsets, you essentially pay someone to reduce or remove global warming pollution in your name.

If I believed that carbon "credits" were a solution, which I don't, to an imaginary problem, anthropogenic warming, which I further don't, then it might be worthwhile reading the rest of this article...

Which I won't...

[capt. norm]

The non-productive have devised yet another way to tax/rob the productive.

[EBH]

Well I guess it is better than this?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/2/12/103251.shtml

[socialismisinsidious]

When you buy offsets, you essentially pay someone to reduce or remove global warming pollution

YES! and that someone should be ME! Calling all DUmmies send your money to me today and I promise to do everything in my power to offset your global warming! Act fast...call today!

1-800-SUCKER

[Jaysun]

I'll sell carbon credits to anyone who wants them for half of what they're charging. Just send me your cash and sleep well at night. Damn fools.

[SampleMan]

What is the legal penalty for selling counterfeit carbon offsets to moon bats? In fact, I can truthfully promise to not build a coal fired power plant.

[Publius6961]

1-800-SUCKER

Wait a minute...

How does one become an agent or broker?
I could get religion...

[ConservaTexan]

For example, when you buy 10 tons of carbon offsets, the seller guarantees that 10 fewer tons of global warming pollution go into the atmosphere.

10 tons fewer than what?? I am not aware of the yearly global output of 'global warming pollutants', but logic says that if enough 'credits' are purchased then the number of 'global warming pollutants' would equal zero(or even a negative number), both of which are impossible. I have a feeling that the same type people that managed the Oil for Food Program are handling this project.

[Obie Wan]

For example, when you buy 10 tons of carbon offsets, the seller guarantees that 10 fewer tons of global warming pollution go into the atmosphere.

Did the guy who came up with this idea ever sell swampland in Florida by any chance ???

[Winged Hussar]

"What is the legal penalty for selling counterfeit carbon offsets to moon bats? In fact, I can truthfully promise to not build a coal fired power plant."

Yes, I think a lot of scammers could get into this racket. How about a package deal: $50 for 10 tons of carbon and forgiveness for 500 minor, 100 serious, or 20 mortal sins?

[Mygirlsmom]

That rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! Look at the bones!!!!!

Sorry, just had to get that out of my system!

Seriously, this has to be about the dumbest scam I've ever heard of.

[Mygirlsmom]

That rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! Look at the bones!!!!!

Sorry, just had to get that out of my system!

Seriously, this has to be about the dumbest scam I've ever heard of.

[MrCFdovnh]

"Bunnys produce more pollution than any other creature..."

John Effin Kerry is running a close second.

[Winged Hussar]

"If I believed that carbon "credits" were a solution, which I don't, to an imaginary problem, anthropogenic warming, which I further don't"

Read what I said. I posted this not to advocate it, but to ridicule and denounce it while exposing it for what it is: the equivalent of selling indulgences for sins. If we look into it deeply enough, we will find George Soros' sucker prints (the prints made by an octopus' tentacles) all over it, and all kinds of unsavory self-serving motives by corporate climate profiteers. THE ONLY GREEN THEY ARE INTERESTED IN IS OUR MONEY.

[Gritty]

The individual Global Warming "taxes" are headed our way, mark my words. These are turbo-charged control freaks we are talking about here, folks.

But, you can bet your bottom dollar they aren't going to replace your income, sales, and property taxes!

[kcar]

And if everyone who feels the need to expiate their sins of consumption were to pay me enough, I'll fly to Hawaii via commercial airline rather than by a private jet.

I'm waiting for Clark Howard to start alerting listeners to this one.

[kcvl]

How do they keep 'score' of how many 'carbon credits' one uses?!!! These people are IDIOTS!

I heard a talking head Democrat say that Al Gore has 'bought' carbon credits so it's okay if he flys around the country in a private jet and owns several homes. They must think people are as stupid as they are!


One of the 'leaders' of this 'movement' in the United States is from CANADA?!!!


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Brief Biography

David T. Suzuki PhD, Chair of the David Suzuki Foundation, is an award-winning scientist, environmentalist and broadcaster.

David has received consistently high acclaim for his 30 years of award-winning work in broadcasting, explaining the complexities of science in a compelling, easily understood way. He is well known to millions as the host of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's popular science television series, The Nature of Things.

His eight part series, A Planet for the Taking won an award from the United Nations. His eight-part PBS series The Secret of Life was praised internationally, as was his five-part series The Brain for the Discovery Channel. For CBC Radio he founded the long running radio series, Quirks and Quarks and has presented two influential documentary series on the environment, From Naked Ape to Superspecies and It's a Matter of Survival.

[Kay Ludlow]

Hey - if they can get the gaia worshipers and others on the left to spend their personal money of carbon offsets, more power to them! It's a market based mechanism for them to assuage their guilt at being Americans, and the more the spend offsetting their carbon footprint, the less they have to give to the radical organizations that are trying to force all of us to do them same.

[kcvl]

The UK government is to set standards for carbon offsetting schemes to bring "greater clarity" to the industry.

The move comes as an increasing number of consumers try to limit the environmental impact of actions such as driving a car or flying by plane.

However, carbon offsetting schemes have been attacked for a lack of transparency and inconsistent prices.

Environment Secretary David Miliband said the voluntary standards would help consumers pick "genuine" projects.

Trees and bulbs

There are a number of ways that consumers can offset their carbon emissions, including paying for trees to be planted and buying energy-efficient light bulbs for use in developing nations.

The worry for the government has been that the benefits of many of the projects have proved difficult to verify and may be open to abuse.

[gondramB]

I wonder...

How long will it be before a large enough market and high enough prices developes so that it becomes profitable to be willing to shut down a business so you can promise to cut carbon use and thus sell the carbon credits.

[azhenfud]

Airbus is a big contributor to carbon in the air. They mix theirs with fiber and call it a plane.

[BigBobber]

According to their carbon calculator, the "footprint" for my 2-person household is 27 metric tons/year. The most expensive offset cost is $8/ton, so my annual cost for "zero carbon pollution" is $216/year. So why the heck would I buy a Prius for $5000 extra to offset $1100 (for 5 years) carbon emissions for 2 cars plus a house plus air travel?

This carbon offset thing is going to bite the eco-mongers in the butt if they don't get their numbers straight!

[kcvl]

The new standards will be based only on projects that can be certified, including flexible schemes agreed under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change.

Since the United States didn't sign it we can IGNORE it which I plan to continue doing. I think we have planted enough trees to offset any 'harm' my family has done to this planet. PUKE!

They can all shove it as far as I'm concerned.

[Gorzaloon]

"You can neutralize the rest of your pollution—through offsets. When you buy offsets, you essentially pay someone to reduce or remove global warming pollution in your name. "

< AOL > SEND THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!! < /AOL >

Here is how it works. This was on Oprah, and the USPS says it is LEGAL!

When you buy six offsets, you sell each of them to six friends. Each of them buys six more and sends you back one!

You sell these to six more friends, who do the same thing!

At the end of six months, you will own 2/3 of ALL the Carbon Offsets on the Planet!!!

Now you can sell huge blocks of them to ENRON, SHELL, MOBILE, GENERAL MOTORS, etc. and then be able to buy up the remaining third of all offsets, thereby RULING THE WORLD.

Warmest Personal Regards, Energy Minister Reverend Dr. Field Marshal Mguu Mkimbe.

[Reform4Bush]

I'm all for reducing pollution, recycling and other efforts to reduce the impact we impose upon the planet.

I'm against using the human induced global warming hogwash to accomplish that end result. In fact, it actually makes me want to pollute more.

If the Greenies stand up and advocate reduce, reuse and recycle for the sake of reducing our impact and being environmentally friendly, I'm in whole heartedly.

When they try fear mongering based on psuedo science and try to stifle the debate over their ridiculous claims - I will refuse, resist and ridicule.

[Winged Hussar]

I HAVE to borrow this; it is funny (AND ACCURATE).

[Mygirlsmom]

You could also flush $216 down tht toilet and have exactly the same impact.

[kcar]

To Whomever receives this:

I have half a gazillion carbon offsets. Unfortunately I can not transfer them out of Nigeria...

[!1776!]

How long will it be before a large enough market and high enough prices developes so that it becomes profitable to be willing to shut down a business so you can promise to cut carbon use and thus sell the carbon credits.

There are examples of other emission trading programs that could probably be researched to find an answer. Offsets for non-attainment areas (see Houston for example) can get pricey.

A better question is when will high enough prices develop so that it will be profitable to shut down a business, sell carbon credits for profit, and then re-open the business (under a different "name" ofcourse) in a country that could care less about CO2 emissions.

Not that I think that some nations that are excused from CO2 emission requirements under Kyoto, even if they are large producers of CO2, and projected to have CO2 emissions which exceed those from the U.S in the near future, would use their preffered status to benefit their economy at the expense of ours. They obviously understand that the U.N., the E.U., the NRDC, etc., know what is best and will voluntarily give up their developing prosperity for the common good of the world...

[Nip]

Why does the image of Elmer Gantry, Jerry Falwell, and others keep popping into my mind?

If they promised a health benefit the FDA would be all over their collective ***s. But since it is dealing with global warming and “carbon offsets” I guess they aren’t selling snake oil.

[panaxanax]

Here's more for your ping list, Diana.

Incredibly funny on dog, cat and even Reindeer farts. Not any Reindeer. These are Santa's Reindeer Carbon Credits. Go figure?

http://shop.easybeinggreen.com.au/categories.asp?cID=106

[panaxanax]

"The Sydney-based Easy Being Green says it will mitigate your cat's flatulent contribution to global warming for 8 Australian dollars, or $6. The same company could also make your granny "carbon-neutral" at 10 dollars a year, according to a report in the Australian newspaper last weekend."

[Gorzaloon]

I HAVE to borrow this; it is funny (AND ACCURATE).

Just send it to six friends, and we'll split it 50-50! :-)

[Stegall Tx]

I was reading up on this last night. It seems that I have 20 CO2e's from not putting cattle on my farm this year. I'm starting to try and find some way to "authenticate" that number and I'll put them on eBay sometime later this year.

And you guys are cheap! The "greenhouse gas offsets" on eBay start at $24.95 for one tonne (discounts for larger quantities).

Of course, the profits go to indigenous peoples in Africa, so it's all worth it.

[gondramB]

>> There are examples of other emission trading programs that could probably be researched to find an answer. Offsets for non-attainment areas (see Houston for example) can get pricey.

A better question is when will high enough prices develop so that it will be profitable to shut down a business, sell carbon credits for profit, and then re-open the business (under a different "name" ofcourse) in a country that could care less about CO2 emissions. <<

Sadly, I suspect you are right - this could become a profitable new line of "investment" that would actually have negative productivity for the country... very sad.

[Winged Hussar]

Aluminum companies in California have already shut down operations to resell electricity (for which they had locked-in contracts) when prices went sky-high a few years ago. In other words, California economics turned them from manufacturers into non-value-adding middlemen. To their credit, I don't think they laid off their workers; they just sent them home and kept paying them.

[Winged Hussar]

""The Sydney-based Easy Being Green says it will mitigate your cat's flatulent contribution to global warming for 8 Australian dollars, or $6. The same company could also make your granny "carbon-neutral" at 10 dollars a year, according to a report in the Australian newspaper last weekend."

Wait until they put a greenhouse gas emission tax on beans. Methane (the primary component of flatulance) is a much worse greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

Re: Nigerian carbon emission credits; "I have a million tons of carbon emission credits, but I need $2000 to get them out of Nigeria. If you pay me that much, I will split the carbon emission credits with you 50:50." Don't worry, what is going on now is probably just about as reputable as a 419 scam, and so are most of the people behind the "carbon emission trading" movement.

Also, bovine animals and sheep are major greenhouse gas sources (methane from flatulence). I plan to go into the business of not raising cattle and sheep (so I can claim greenhouse gas credits to resell), and I would like to know what kinds of cattle and sheep are best not to raise. I will start by not raising 1000 this year, but I hope to expand my operations to not raising 2000 next year.

[gondramB]

>>Aluminum companies in California have already shut down operations to resell electricity (for which they had locked-in contracts) when prices went sky-high a few years ago. In other words, California economics turned them from manufacturers into non-value-adding middlemen. To their credit, I don't think they laid off their workers; they just sent them home and kept paying them.<<

Lets hope that California is not, in this case, a trend setter.

[Larry R. Johnson]

Carbon footprints? Heck, I know it' an old carpet, worn in spots, but those black carbon footprints look awful...go get the Resolve!

[steveab]

I'll buy all your carbon credits, but I'll have to pay you with funny money.

[steveab]

Ill but all your carbon credits, but I only pay with funny money.

[Larry R. Johnson]

Somebody needs to invent a rectally insertable flatulene scrubber which would capture the flattus, separate the oxygen out, expelling it as fresh air, and collect the carbon for use in carbon-fiber, pencil leads or ink, etc. That's what we really need. Now that's recycling!

[xcamel]

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[socialismisinsidious]

from the website: DrivingGreen’s projects work with livestock farmers in Mexico. Greenhouse gases from animal waste are captured and used to generate energy.

Picturing a bunch of Mexicans running around behind cows with little vacuum cleaners capturing all those cow farts. Just doing, yet another, job that Americans won't do.

[Ole Okie]

Did the guy who came up with this idea ever sell swampland in Florida by any chance ???

The very same.