To: TheConservativeCitizen
While some of us might be willing to examine the Muslim angle to this story...if you were a kid in Bosnia...when the ethnic cleansing was taking place...you are screwed for the rest of your life. It doesn't matter what religion you had...there was death around every turn. The US took in alot of these refugees...and this kid is simply episode number one that we will have face.
To: TheConservativeCitizen
Another example of the peace loving mooslums. The MSM is really a piece of crap. All mooslums are suspect in my eyes. There is no such thing as a non violent mooslum. There is only a mooslum waiting to explode.
3 posted on
02/23/2007 9:54:02 PM PST by
nyconse
To: TheConservativeCitizen
He must have been another one of those Bush Administration
plants, sent in there to distract attention from that WOT
thing. I'm certain that those at the DU will get to the
bottom of this....JJ61(wink)
8 posted on
02/23/2007 10:01:55 PM PST by
JerseyJohn61
(Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
To: TheConservativeCitizen
The media showed an interesting and obvious reluctance to initially disclose, let alone discuss, eighteen year old Talovics religious persuasion... Let there be no doubt that had the perp been a professed Christian the MSM would've repeated that fact ad nauseam.
10 posted on
02/23/2007 10:13:25 PM PST by
Mr. Mojo
To: TheConservativeCitizen
Why is the media suppressing this sotry? Why are they afraid to write about jihad in the USA?
12 posted on
02/23/2007 10:21:03 PM PST by
TBP
To: All
ON THE NET...
OSINT.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com (CONTRACOSTATIMES.com): Salt Lake City - "TROLLEY SQUARE OPERATION TO BE USED AS A CASE STUDY" (February 21, 2007)
KSL.com: "FATHER OF SHOOTER BELIEVES SOMEONE TOLD HIS SON TO KILL PEOPLE" (February 16, 2007, 12:49 pm)
SALT LAKE TRIBUNE: "TROLLEY KILLER HAD VIOLENT JUVENILE HISTORY" by Stephen Hunt and Brent Israelsen (Last updated February 15, 2007, 6:20:05 PM MST)
LittleGreenFootballs.com - "SALT LAKE CITY KILLER'S RECORDS RELEASED" (February 15, 2007)
Media.www.USISHIELD.com (AP): "GUNMAN KILLS 5 AT SALT LAKE CITY MALL" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The card store Cabin Fever had been packed with Valentine's Day shoppers Monday night when the shooting started, store owner David Dean said. Dean said his assistant manager called him, saying "someone's in the store killing people." The place was "all shot up," Dean said. He said three or four of the victims were shot inside.") (February 15, 2007)
LiveLeak.com: "DRAMATIC HOME VIDEO SHOWS UTAH MALL RAMPAGE"
JIHAD WATCH.org: "DESERET MORNING NEWS HITS 'ULTRACONSERVATIVE' WEBSITES FOR SUGGESTING SALT LAKE SHOOTING WAS JIHAD-MOTIVATED" (February 15, 2007)
JIHAD WATCH.org (BISMARCK TRIBUNE): Salt Lake City - "FBI: NO REASON TO BELIEVE SALT LAKE MALL SHOOTER WAS MOTIVATED BY RELIGIOUS EXTREMISM OR TERRORISM" (February 14, 2007)
KUTV.com: "FULL COVERAGE OF THE TERROR AT TROLLEY SQUARE" (Febuary 14, 2007, 9:48 pm US/Mountain)
CNN.com: "UTAH MALL GUNMAN WAS SREBRENICA SURVIVOR, COUSIN SAYS" (February 14, 2007, 11:59 p.m.)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE: "SALT LAKE JIHAD?" by Robert Spencer (February 15, 2007)
SLTRIB.com: "TROLLEY SQUARE: SUSPECT RARELY SEEN BY HIS NEIGHBORS A high school drop-out, Talovic's life and motive for the shooting remain a mystery" by Matthew D. LaPlante (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police say the gunman met his first two victims in the parking lot, firing off two rounds as they fell. "Die, motherf-----," Talovic said to them, according to one witness. Talovic appears to have uttered few further words. Witnesses said he moved deliberately through the ground floor corridors, firing round after round at helpless others, sometimes swearing, sometimes ordering his victims not to look at him. In seemingly random fashion, showing no emotion, he slaughtered five people and seriously wounded four others.") (Last updated February 14, 2007, 01:29 AM MST)
DESERET NEWS.com: "6 MINUTES OF HORROR: SHOOTER AIMED TO KILL AS MANY AS HE COULD" by Pat Reavy and Ben Winslow (ARTICLE SNIPPET: ""His intent was to shoot as many people as he possibly could," said Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank. Police released details Tuesday on Talovic's shooting rampage that left five people dead before off-duty Ogden police officer Ken Hammond and four Salt Lake City police officers killed him in "a shootout," Burbank said. Four other shooting victims are hospitalized. Talovic was armed with a shotgun, a .38-caliber handgun and "a backpack full of ammunition," Burbank said. Around the man's waist was a bandolier of shotgun shells. "He had a pump shotgun," said one witness, DeEtta Barta. "He was shooting, and he shot about four shots.") (February 14, 2007)
WorldNetDaily.com: "UTAH GUNMAN, 18, WAS MUSLIM FROM BOSNIA" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "David Dean, who owns a greeting-card store at the mall, said three or four people died inside his store, which was packed with Valentine's Day shoppers.")(February 13, 2007)
JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "SALT LAKE CITY: BOSNIAN TEEN WANTED 'TO KILL A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE'" (February 13, 2007)
LittleGreenFootballs.com - weblog: "SALT LAKE CITY KILLER IDENTIFIED Sudden jihad syndrome?" (February 13, 2007)
Google - Search News: "SULEJMAN TALOVIC"
18 posted on
02/23/2007 11:44:23 PM PST by
Cindy
To: TheConservativeCitizen
I, also, believe this was a "terrorist" attack. One of those independent terrorist actions the jihadists are always encouraging. I'd not heard ANY news source report that this thug uttered the "God is Great" mantra, although it is clearly audible on the video.
I agree with his father though, there was clearly someone who helped him obtain the weapons AND the practice space and training to use said weapons.
Throughout our nation's history we have taken in the hapless victims of other nations' wars, but I don't ever recall having to worry about them, individually or collectively, becoming, for no apparent reason, suddenly unhinged and killing Americans. MANY of our legal immigrants have witnessed, and been the victims of, horrible crimes, but I just know of to many who HAVEN'T reacted in such a fashion.
19 posted on
02/24/2007 12:06:59 AM PST by
singfreedom
("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
To: TheConservativeCitizen
Sudden Jihad Syndrome or How I lost all self control and got closer to allah.
20 posted on
02/24/2007 12:09:48 AM PST by
Dr.Zoidberg
(Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
To: TheConservativeCitizen
I always wonder years ago when we have the kinds of killings go back to the first time when that 16 years in the play ground of Arizona shoot those kids them himself.
There is a pattern in most all of these cases.
To get our attention like a reallity show and experiment in how we as people will respond.
Another reason is to distract us from some other important even going on and our focus is diverted to these events.
Don't get me wrong this still could also be a Jhadist that was activated to distract our minds.
So the next time one of these kind of events take place also look around to see what else was taking place elsewhere!
31 posted on
02/24/2007 8:05:29 AM PST by
restornu
(They were not out of tune with what he was saying, it’s because they were out tune with the Spirit !)
To: TheConservativeCitizen
The father of Trolley Square shooter Sulejmen Talovic apologizes over and over for the ordeal. Suljo Talovic says no one who knew his son saw this coming, and he believes someone pushed him to do it.
At the mosque the shooter prayed at, the month previously the imam was dismissed and disappeared:
The relative said the abrupt departure - one that left the imam "in shock" - was driven by something more than his marital issues. The imam, the relative said, had recently raised concerns about board finances, the exclusion of women from the board and the housing of "suspicious" individuals in the mosque.
32 posted on
02/24/2007 1:57:20 PM PST by
SauronOfMordor
(Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
To: TheConservativeCitizen
Is it a written rule? A gentlemen agreement?
Is it taught in journalism school?
Why does a massacre like this not reach the light of day in the mainstream media?
If the Utah Shooter event were to get the coverage Anna Nicole Smith and Britany Spears are getting, it would lead to the bloodshed of innocent people.
The Islamics weren't the only ones in the past 100 years that butcher whole groups of people.
IMO, that's the reason. And probably a good one.
34 posted on
02/24/2007 2:15:03 PM PST by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
To: TheConservativeCitizen
"If you only read the news as reported by the Main Stream Media,"
Fortunately, this is happening less and less for most Americans.
45 posted on
02/24/2007 4:51:28 PM PST by
Cedar
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