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Second Iraq 'Mystery Weapon' More 'Nefarious' Than the First
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,253713,00.html ^ | 02/22/07 | Sara Bonisteel

Posted on 02/22/2007 8:53:39 AM PST by Blogger

A mysterious green cantaloupe-sized metal ball with an unknown firing device, found in 2005 by GIs and a freelance journalist in Mosul, Iraq, is confounding weapons experts trying to pinpoint its origin.

Dubbed "Mystery Weapon 2" by Iraq-based journalist Michael Yon, the orb was found under a barn among a weapons stockpile that was later destroyed by the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry Regiment.

"If there's anything that, honest to God, could have nefarious overtones, it's that, because nobody was able to tell what it was," Yon said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: huntforwmd; iraq; mysteryweapon

Thoughts?
1 posted on 02/22/2007 8:53:46 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger

The Apple of Discord?


2 posted on 02/22/2007 8:56:44 AM PST by null and void (Let's play 6° of global warming...)
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To: Blogger

A camel apple?


3 posted on 02/22/2007 8:56:58 AM PST by Paco
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To: Paco

IBM?


4 posted on 02/22/2007 8:57:33 AM PST by null and void (Let's play 6° of global warming...)
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To: Blogger

"Ask again later"......


5 posted on 02/22/2007 8:57:50 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: Uncle Ike

LOL! And the thread hijack is complete...


6 posted on 02/22/2007 8:58:23 AM PST by null and void (Let's play 6° of global warming...)
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To: Blogger
Looks like a bomblet from a cluster bomb.
7 posted on 02/22/2007 8:58:37 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: null and void

I think it was one of Saddam's party favors.

8 posted on 02/22/2007 8:59:42 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Blogger

It's a Holy Handgrenade


9 posted on 02/22/2007 9:01:53 AM PST by Lexington Green (Medical Marijuana - - When ''Compassionate Conservative'' is an oxymoron.)
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To: Blogger

Ask it a question and shake it, then wait and see what answer comes up in the little window.


10 posted on 02/22/2007 9:05:02 AM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Blogger

'Cept for the green paint and presumably modern fuze assembly, it looks like an eighteenth-century grenado.


11 posted on 02/22/2007 9:06:35 AM PST by sinanju (s)
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To: Blogger

ping


12 posted on 02/22/2007 9:06:40 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! If you are military please sign at: appealforcourage.org)
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To: Blogger
A camouflaged magic 8 ball?
13 posted on 02/22/2007 9:08:00 AM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Blogger

Say, maybe it is. I remember a fascinating article about the contact mines that the Iranians were using in the Straits of Hormuz twenty years ago during the tanker reflagging operation.

They were apparently manufactured for the tsarist military during the Russo-Japanese war of 1904. They then spent eight or so decades being sold from one east-bloc tyranny to another until the Iranians bought them in a job lot of old stuff from the North Koreans. They should have been in a museum but they still worked all too well.

So maybe our heroes discovered a piece of reconditioned Napoleonic war surplus, hey?


14 posted on 02/22/2007 9:11:48 AM PST by sinanju (s)
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To: Blogger

Perhaps it's a single sub-munition of the type packaged in cluster bombs.


15 posted on 02/22/2007 9:12:03 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: Blogger

Its off a 46 Pontiac


16 posted on 02/22/2007 9:14:34 AM PST by woofie
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To: Blogger

It's a baby Death Star...

17 posted on 02/22/2007 9:22:59 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: Blogger
It's one of Pelosi's testicular implants mysteriously lost during her Iraq trip.

LBT
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18 posted on 02/22/2007 9:24:16 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds (In the end, it's gonna come down to the guns.)
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To: Blogger

Green Goblin Pumpkin bomb


19 posted on 02/22/2007 9:26:07 AM PST by Squidpup (sheep have two speeds: 'grazing' and 'stampede')
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To: sinanju

The green paint makes it Islamic.


20 posted on 02/22/2007 9:27:13 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Blogger
Any other weapons guys out there? Reminds me of the white phosphorus fuse for Napalm. Green fiberglass with an entry point for the static fuse. Probably not but that was the first thing I thought of when I saw it.
21 posted on 02/22/2007 9:33:24 AM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Blogger
Good morning.
"Thoughts?"

Didn't Apothis have T'ealc toss one into the Gate room to scan for acceptable chicks in the first episode of SG1?

Michael Frazier
22 posted on 02/22/2007 9:41:10 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Blogger
A photo of the stockpile
23 posted on 02/22/2007 9:43:10 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: Blogger

Looks like Kryptonite to me.


24 posted on 02/22/2007 9:45:14 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: sbMKE

Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death...


25 posted on 02/22/2007 9:45:37 AM PST by null and void (Let's play 6° of global warming...)
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To: Blogger

APRES/AMAT submunition? Daa is 3.8+ inches.

Just a guess having spent many a Christmas picking them up off of the range complex.



I wish Mike would post photos with good lighting and show the full munition with a ruler sitting next to it for scale.

Then again, I wish Mike was covering the Marines and Army at home doing a victory march.


26 posted on 02/22/2007 9:47:12 AM PST by ASOC
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To: Blogger
It looks like a bimb.....

a BIMB?!!!

27 posted on 02/22/2007 9:51:35 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Lexington Green

What's it doing so far from Antioch?


28 posted on 02/22/2007 9:52:57 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Never let it be said that there are things we would never let be said.)
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To: Blogger

It's a Goa'uld shock grenade.
29 posted on 02/22/2007 9:59:07 AM PST by sumocide
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To: Blogger

Looks like the ball in Phantasm.


30 posted on 02/22/2007 10:02:45 AM PST by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: beltfed308

The oulook is Unclear!


31 posted on 02/22/2007 10:03:54 AM PST by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: sumocide

I've long suspected that the muzzies (or at least their leadership) are Goa'uld. The behaviour matches.


32 posted on 02/22/2007 10:05:00 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Blogger

only $14.95!


33 posted on 02/22/2007 10:09:09 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Blogger

Shot Put.


34 posted on 02/22/2007 10:10:32 AM PST by sappy
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To: Blogger

I seem to have misplaced my thermal detonator?

35 posted on 02/22/2007 10:12:28 AM PST by Gator101
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To: null and void
The Apple of Discord?

That's golden.

36 posted on 02/22/2007 10:12:33 AM PST by Dinsdale
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To: Squidpup; Blogger

37 posted on 02/22/2007 10:13:32 AM PST by Lando Lincoln
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To: Blogger
It's a pokemon thingy!!
38 posted on 02/22/2007 10:20:02 AM PST by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: Dinsdale
*blush* Thank yew. I'll be here all week.

Try the veal...

39 posted on 02/22/2007 10:59:57 AM PST by null and void (Let's play 6° of global warming...)
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To: Blogger

The silver disk screws into place, as evidenced by it's circular shape, and the leverage slot on the far side's outer circumference.

Two apparant perforations in the circular disk could be a filling point and a vent.

The purpose of two and perhaps three grooves in the spherical casing adjacent to the disk are unclear.

The spherical shape of the device could be a volumetric design decision, as a sphere contains more volume than any other shape, or it could be a strength decision, as a sphere makes a very strong tank, or both.

Best guess, a container for a gas or a liquid. Removal of the disk would reveal the presence or absence of a fusing or detonation mechanism, also a possible backflow valve. Absence of fusing or detonation assemblies inside the disk would indicate a partial structure, dependent on a larger external ancilliary device to make a weapon out of it.

That it's a weapon of some sort is a given, as a result of where it was found. The machining is of intermediate to high quality, though initial impressions of the disk point towards intermediate techniques. The disk looks to have been designed for strength, not precision.

The green finish appears to be marred or smeared, possibly indicating a past exposure to caustic or acidic substances. If the green color is not a finish but a property of the container material itself, the discoloration may be a discontinuity or non-homogenineity within the material, or a surface effect as described above.

With the device assembled and no view of the interior, that's all I have.


40 posted on 02/22/2007 11:15:16 AM PST by jeffers
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To: Constitution Day

Can the Happy Fun Ball be used by the Viking Kitties to Zot trolls???


41 posted on 02/22/2007 11:19:43 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Don't ask me. The whole VK thing is so played out, IMO.


42 posted on 02/22/2007 11:26:16 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Blogger

An eco-whacko bowling ball.


43 posted on 02/22/2007 11:36:01 AM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: jeffers

Good analysis. Think Chemical weapond dispersal, or 1/2 of a binary weapond array. If so, need to rub the media's nose in this. WMD found, that sort of thing.


44 posted on 02/22/2007 12:31:38 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: jeffers

Good analysis. Think Chemical weapond dispersal, or 1/2 of a binary weapond array. If so, need to rub the media's nose in this. WMD found, that sort of thing.


45 posted on 02/22/2007 12:32:02 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: null and void

"The Apple of Discord?"

Imaginative! But, where are the godesses, and where the Judge? What bribes will be offered to obtain the judgement?



46 posted on 02/22/2007 12:35:07 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Wilum
Reminds me of the white phosphorus fuse for Napalm.

Nah, I know those all too well. Ours were gray in color, small threaded hole for the actual fuse, big threads on the other end to screw into the nape tank. It was a white phosphorus igniter that was popped open by the multi-directional fuse (would trigger regardless of impact orientation). Round on one end, flat on the other.

47 posted on 02/22/2007 2:54:35 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: arthurus

Its a Hillary dropping from her broom flyover


48 posted on 02/22/2007 3:40:27 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: doorgunner69
Yup! Same puppy.

Loaded a bunch myself and with WP liquefying at 111 degrees F, in the hot weather, we were always looking for leakage from that little fill hole on the backside. You could really end up with a hurt with that stuff.

It was just the initial view that made me think of them. Needed an excuse to see if any loaders were out there

Wilum
49 posted on 02/23/2007 5:11:30 AM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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