Posted on 02/16/2007 7:17:58 AM PST by SJackson
| NEC 12-15 February Poll: 75% of Palestinians do not think that Israel has the right to exist |
| NEC's monthly bulletin on Palestinian perceptions towards politics and economics Bulletin # II-2 - Main Findings February 2007 FOR FURTHER INFORMATION Please contact: Jamil Rabah Near East Consulting HSBC Building, 3rd floor RAMALLAH Tel: 02-2961436 Fax: 02-2963114 info@neareastconsulting.com www.neareastconsulting.com In the period 12-15 February, 2007, Near East Consulting (NEC) conducted a .. 51% of Palestinians feel less secure since the January 2006 elections, .. The majority of Palestinians (85%) of the Palestinians continue to be .. 19% are concerned because of the economic hardship that their household .. Despite the recent Mecca agreement, 75% continue to feel insecure with .. 82% of the Palestinians believe that the Executive Force should be .. While in NEC's January 2007 survey, 43% of Palestinians believed that a B. The Mecca agreement and the future developments: .. The overwhelming majority of Palestinians (94%) support the Mecca .. 79% believe that the Mecca agreement will hold. .. Equally, 79% believe that the envisaged Unity government in the Mecca .. 63% believe that the embargo against the PA will be lifted as a result of .. 20% believe that Fateh most benefited from the Mecca agreement, 19% feel .. Despite the optimism surrounding the potential of the Mecca agreement, an C. Factions and leaders: .. Between trust in Abu Mazen and trust in Ismael Hanieh, 51% most trust the .. Very similar to NEC's January 2007 results, 43% believe that the people .. Personally, 34% of the respondents place their trust in Fateh (a drop of D. The Palestinian-Israeli context: .. 70% support a peace settlement with Israel, compared to 72% in January .. 51% believe that Hamas should change its position towards the elimination .. 63% of Palestinians believe that Hamas should use all its efforts to .. 85% of Palestinians believe that there is a Palestinian peace partner. .. Meanwhile, 26% believe that Palestinians have a peace partner in Israel. .. 62% of Palestinians support the planned meeting on 19 February between E. Poverty conditions .. The percentage odd Palestinians who live under the poverty line is lower .. Supporters of Fateh seem to be less privileged than other respondents. .. Poverty level is higher in the Gaza Strip (72%) than in the West Bank
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I'm surprised it's only 75%.
Sec. Rice must not have read this poll...
They probably surveyed 75% of the population and got a 100% "No right" response rate.
Regardless of how one might feel about Rudy Giuliani, he has long been considered one of Israel's best friends.
The other 25% face beheading
and they would be in line with Hillary's thinking.
The irony of this is the "palestinians" don't exist
A similar percentage of the democrat party agrees as does it's moonbat leader Jimmah Carter.
Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.
An honest consistency.
Here's the turd in the punchbowl...
One-state solution = we haven't been able to eradicate you militarily, so let's try it "democratically"....
Just for grins, a reminder that the UN did not recommend or vote on a one-state "solution" 60 years ago. So why does this keep coming up as a rational idea? Or as a useful question?
He has, which is why some of the anti morons on Rudy threads refer to him as a Likudnik, and imply that he's controlled behind the scenes by mysterious warlike people from a little country in the middle east. IMO they're not suggesting it's Saudi Arabia.
Of course Gingrich, Hunter and McCain are pro Israel and anti terror as well.
Worth remembering. Most people living today in the US and "discussing" this topic haven't a clue.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism." --- PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein on March 31, 1977
I knew that about Gingrich but not Hunter. McCain is so difficult to read that I never know where he stands.
Anyone who lived in the Levant all the way to Iraq, since way before islam even existed. An archaic term for the area, like our "midwest", that was "revived" in 1964 for muslim political purposes.
Next question?
Anybody know what "the Mecca agreement" is?
75% of Palestinians do not think that Israel has the right to exist
They tried to do follow-up interviews with those 25%ers, but their homes curiously all got blown up.
A power-sharing agreement struck between Hamas and Fatah last week in Mecca. Essentially forms a unity government in which the two parties will split cabinet posts. Presumably it will end the infighting so both groups can concentrate on Israel. Their assumption is that with a government, the EU and US will ignore their refusal to recognize Israel and cease terror, and restore aid. There's a very good chance they're right.
That low? And really, who's surprised and who cares?
I await the day when all shall stand before the God of Abraham and Isaac....
So many have been led into the darkness in these last days.
This is right up there with the polls that confirm that rain is "wet" and fire is "hot."
The Mecca agreement:
Based on the generous initiative announced by Saudi King Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz and under the sponsorship of his majesty, Fatah and Hamas Movements held in the period February 6-8, 2007 in Holy Mecca the dialogues of Palestinian conciliation and agreement and these dialogues, thanks to God, ended with success and an agreement was reached on the following:
-- First: to ban the shedding of Palestinian blood and to take all measures and arrangements to prevent the shedding of Palestinian blood and to stress the importance of national unity as the basis for national steadfastness and confronting the occupation and to achieve the legitimate national goals of the Palestinian people and adopt the language of dialogue as the sole basis for solving political disagreements in the Palestinian arena.
-- Second: Final agreement to form a Palestinian national unity government according to a detailed agreement ratified by both sides and to start on an urgent basis to take the constitutional measures to form this government.
-- Third: to move ahead in measures to activate and reform the Palestine Liberation Organisation and accelerate the work of the preparatory committee based on the Cairo and Damascus Understandings.
-- Fourth: to stress on the principle of political partnership on the basis of the effective laws in the PNA and on the basis of political pluralism according to an agreement ratified between both parties.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2007/February/middleeast_February141.xml§ion=middleeast
Sadly, this is not surprising. Most likely, the other 25% percent will be executed as "collaborators". That's the Palis best technique for insuring the population never believes Israel has a right to exist.
If 75% of the Israelis think that the Palestinian Authority should go away, should it?
It cuts both ways. The questions were rhetorical.
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Palestinian are SCHOOLED to hate Jews and Chrisitans before they are off the teat... ALL OF THEM..
No reason you should, no one knows much of anything about Hunter, he's not getting his message out. From a recent interview.
John Hawkins: Now, with the Israelis and the Palestinians - tell us a little bit about how you see that conflict. How would President Duncan Hunter handle that?Duncan Hunter: ...I think the key is to maintain capability in Israel, particularly defensive capability and that is the ability to take down, for example, short range ballistic missiles -- and one thing that I encouraged the Israelis to do in the '80's and since 1985 or so.
In fact, I have a letter that I sent to Mr. (Yitzhak) Rabin around '85 or '86 that I drafted and got signed by a large number of members of the Armed Services Committee - recommended that they start developing with the US a missile defense, then recommended the Arrow missile as the centerpiece of that defense -- ...and Israel is going to need at some point in the future the ability to take down incoming rockets which gave such leverage to Hamas in this last conflict.
John Hawkins: Now, how technologically feasible is that? I know a lot of them are very small, very mobile.
Duncan Hunter: Actually, it is technologically feasible because although they're small and they're mobile, they're also fairly slow compared to long range ballistic missiles that move in at a very high velocity.
John Hawkins: As far as the conflict with the Palestinians goes, what do you think about the wall? Is that something you approve of?
Duncan Hunter: Well, I think I've learned one thing and that's that fences work and the walls work and separations work and what they basically afford to any nation is the delay of entry. In fact, a number of people who have looked at the border fence, who have now supported me on the border fence in the US, have ...observed the fences in Israel and their effectiveness.
So I think that the fence generally in the Israel fence program has been an effective one from a security standpoint and I think in the US the border fence in the US is no longer an immigration issue primarily; it's a security issue.
You have to know who's coming into this country and what they're bringing with them. The fences, the double fence in San Diego that I led the effort on and funded over the last ten years or so, have been very effective. It's knocked back the smuggling of people and narcotics by more than 90%, stopped all the drive-through drug people, and would be a hindrance to terrorists should they decide to come across a land border between the US and Mexico and to California.
Good answer by Hunter. I'm impressed.
Thanks, I guess I missed that with all the "Breaking News" about that dead golddigger last week!
"D. The Palestinian-Israeli context: .. 70% support a peace settlement with Israel, compared to 72% in January 2007 and 77% in December 2006. .. 51% believe that Hamas should change its position towards the elimination of Israel (a drop of 5% since January 2007, and a 10% drop since December 2006). .. 63% of Palestinians believe that Hamas should use all its efforts to reach a peace agreement with Israel. .. 85% of Palestinians believe that there is a Palestinian peace partner. This indicates an increase of 8% since December 2006, and is the most positive answer since NEC began asking this question in its May 2006 survey. .. Meanwhile, 26% believe that Palestinians have a peace partner in Israel. This indicates a downward trend as in December 2006 still 30% believed that there was a peace partner in Israel, while this was this the case for 36% of Palestinians in November 2006. The current results consist of the least pronounced belief that there is a peace partner for Palestinians in Israel since August 2006 (at the height of Israel's war against Hezbollah). .. 62% of Palestinians support the planned meeting on 19 February between Abu Mazen, Ehud Olmert, and Condaleeza Rice. .. While principally 75% of Palestinians do not think that Israel has the right to exist, 70% support a one-state solution in historic Palestine where Muslims, Christians and Jews live together with equal rights and responsibilities."Now, regarding the "right to exist," it means what is found here at this Christian Science Monitor article Basically..
There is an enormous difference between "recognizing Israel's existence" and "recognizing Israel's right to exist." From a Palestinian perspective, the difference is in the same league as the difference between asking a Jew to acknowledge that the Holocaust happened and asking him to concede that the Holocaust was morally justified. For Palestinians to acknowledge the occurrence of the Nakba – the expulsion of the great majority of Palestinians from their homeland between 1947 and 1949 – is one thing. For them to publicly concede that it was "right" for the Nakba to have happened would be something else entirely. For the Jewish and Palestinian peoples, the Holocaust and the Nakba, respectively, represent catastrophes and injustices on an unimaginable scale that can neither be forgotten nor forgiven. To demand that Palestinians recognize "Israel's right to exist" is to demand that a people who have been treated as subhumans unworthy of basic human rights publicly proclaim that they are subhumans. It would imply Palestinians' acceptance that they deserve what has been done and continues to be done to them. Even 19th-century US governments did not require the surviving native Americans to publicly proclaim the "rightness" of their ethnic cleansing by European colonists as a condition precedent to even discussing what sort of land reservation they might receive. Nor did native Americans have to live under economic blockade and threat of starvation until they shed whatever pride they had left and conceded the point.
The headline almost had it right
75% of Palestinians do not think. Period
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