Posted on 02/15/2007 8:42:51 AM PST by areafiftyone
"What we pay people in Washington for is to make decisions," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani told the audience at the California GOP convention in Sacramento Saturday.
Meanwhile, back in Washington, members of Congress have been acting as if they were sent to Washington to make non-decisions. Witness the nonbinding House resolution being debated this week in which members profess to support U.S. troops in Iraq, but, "Congress disapproves of the decision of President George W. Bush announced on Jan. 10, 2007, to deploy more than 20,000 additional U.S. combat troops to Iraq."
The Senate couldn't even manage to pass a meaningless Iraq resolution when it tried earlier this month -- a non-accomplishment for which the senators, over time, may be glad.
What are Americans to think of the House resolution?
Politicians say they support the troops, then they undercut the efforts of Gen. David Petraeus, the new military commander in Iraq, to assemble the soldiers he believes he needs to win. Last year, war critics bashed Bush for not listening to Gen. Eric Shinseki, who wanted the administration to send more troops to Iraq. Now, they are supporting resolutions against more troops.
As Giuliani noted: "What I don't get is the nonbinding resolution. I don't get that. In the business world, two weeks spent on a nonbinding resolution would be considered nonproductive." He also called it "a comment without making a decision."
It felt good to see a politician looking at a run for the White House without first reconfiguring his platform to reflect polls that show Americans souring on the war in Iraq.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
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Better hurry up or you'll never get to the 100 Rudy threads daily average...
Giuliani 'not confident' war will turn around
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785020/posts
Oh yeah, he's a regular Churchill. LOL He can't even make tough deicision on the campaign trail!
The question isn't whether is he can make decisions. the question is whether he makes the right decisions.
- Rudy tossed Arafat out of a city sponsored celebrations saying, "I would rather not have someone who has been implicated in the murders of Americans there, if I have the discretion not to have him there.
- Rudy did the same to Fidel Castro.
- When a Saudi prince donated millions to 9/11 relief efforts and later suggested that United States policy in the Middle East may have been partially responsible for the attacks, Rudy returned the money.
- Rudy refused to meet with racial arsonist Al Sharpton.
- Rudy as mayor was strong on law and order. Rudy said that "government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering". And Rudy backed this all up by going after both quality-of-life crimes and serious crimes. Total crime went down by some 64 percent during the Giuliani years, and murder went down 67 percent. Auto thefts went down on average about 80,000 per year.
- Rudy supported the police when the police had to enter and deal with Muslims at a mosque.
- Rudy closed down many porn shops across the city and specifically shutdown porn shops in residential neighborhoods.
- Rudy went after both low level and high level drug dealers for the first time in the cities history.
- Rudy had zero tolerance for quality of life crimes such as squeegee extortionists, graffiti vandals, panhandling and public urination.
- Rudy launched a welfare revolution, removing illegal recipients, cutting the rolls by 20% the first year alone and dropping the welfare rolls by 600,000 over the course of his plan.
- Rudy launched a work requirement program for the remaining welfare recipients. the NY Times called it slavery.
- Rudy constantly spoke out against illegitimacy and fatherless families. One of many things that Rudy said on the subject was the following: " If you wanted a social program that would really save these kids, . I guess the social program would be called fatherhood.
" - Rudy objected to affirmative action. Rudy ended the cities set-aside program for minority contractors.
- Rudy rejected the idea of lowering the job requirement standards for minorities and woman. - Rudy said. "it was unfair to expect middle-class kids to work their way through college by holding down jobs and going to classes while exempting students on welfare from working.
" - Rudy reformed the public school system and forced out liberal chancellors who wouldn't install his reforms.
- Rudy tried to privatize 5 of the cities worst public schools.
- Rudy was for school vouchers Rudy said, "The whole notion of choice is really about more freedom for people, rather than being subjugated by a government system that says you have no choice about the education of your child,".
- Rudy fought against public money for an art display that defiled Christ and he fought against other obscene so-called works of art.
- Rudy played hardball with city unions winning concessions from city workers that other mayors had failed to do.
- Rudy strong armed state leaders to merge the cities Housing Police and Transit Police into the NYPD saving the city hundreds of millions. Rudy did this by threatening to fire every housing and transit officer and rehire each as a city cop if legislative leaders did not go along.
- Rudy did the same with the citys garbageman, many of whom worked only half days because the department was so overstaffed with union jobs. Rudy won $300 million in savings from them by threatening to contract out trash collection to private companies.
- Rudy cut or killed 23 levies and taxes, saving taxpayers $9.8 billion during his terms.
- Rudy cut NYC's top income-tax rate by 20.6%.
- Local NYC taxes on a family of four dropped 23.7% during Rudy's term.
- Rudy cut the commercial-rent tax.
- Rudy cut sales taxes, including taxes on clothing.
- Rudy cut the marriage penalty on taxpaying couples.
- Rudy cut taxes on commercial rents everywhere outside of Manhattans major business districts, and various taxes on small businesses and self-employed New Yorkers.
- Rudy's expenditure growth averaged 2.9% annually, while local inflation between January 1994 and December 2001 averaged 3.6%.
- Rudy privatized municipal assets.
- Rudy sold WNYC radio for $20 million, WNYC-TV for $207 million, and NYC's share of the U.N. Plaza Hotel for $85 million.
- Rudy divested the City from the New York Coliseum adding $345 million to city coffers.
- Rudy let the private Central Park Conservancy manage Central Park.
- Rudy cut NYC's hotel tax from 6% to 5%. Consequently, hotel tax revenues increased from $135 million in Fiscal Year 1995 to $239 million in FY 2001.
- When asked if Rudy would raise taxes after 9/11 Rudy said that would be "a dumb, stupid, idiotic, and moronic thing to do.
" - A quote from Rudy on his economic philosophy: City government should not and cannot create jobs through government planning. The best it can do, and what it has a responsibility to do, is to deal with its own finances first, to create a solid budgetary foundation that allows businesses to move the economy forward on the strength of their energy and ideas. After all, businesses are and have always been the backbone of New York City.
- Construction permits increased by more than 50% in the city per year during Rudy's terms.
- Tourism increased 50% in the city per year during Rudy's terms.
- City jobs increased by 430,000 to an all time high of 3.72 million during Rudy's terms.
- City personal income increased 50% during Rudy's terms.
- The percentage income that city residence paid in taxes declined from 8.8 to 7.3 percent during Rudy's terms.
- Unemployment in the city went form 10.3% to 5.1% during Rudy's terms.
- Rudy was an outstanding leader during the 9/11 crisis.
- Rudy has been a strong supporting in our WOT including supporting the mission in Iraq.
- Rudy was chosen by Ronald Reagan in 1981 as an Associate Attorney General placing him in the third highest position in the Reagan's DOJ.
- In 1983, Rudy was appointed by Reagan to be U.S. Attorney for the SD of NY. In that position, Rudy amassed 4,152 convictions including the heads of NY's so-called "Five Families". Rudy also prosecuted terrorists and illegal immigrants.
Thank you for listing these facts.
Duncan Hunter seems well past 100 threads a day
Since he has already taken both sides of most issues, what is left to decide?
Yeah, after last week's mall shooting he would've decided to push some anti-gun measures.
Those kind of decisions we don't need.
I LOVE IT! GREAT JOB! :-)
lol...you Rudy-haters must be crestfallen to realize he's gonna be the next President.
"What we pay people in Washington for is to make decisions," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani told the audience at the California GOP convention in Sacramento Saturday.
Really? I thought our elected officials' job was to represnt US and our bes interests..........
Check out Registered's wonderful pictures!
After watching too many pathetic White House press briefing and press conferences, I am voting for Rudy.
At least he will aggressively fight back.
Again, the "Rudy-hater" accusation. Why must you call us haters when all we are doing is pointing out his record? If that is all you can do, you must not be able to defend his record. Your tactic is one that cults and Scientologists use, when you can't win an argument, call the other side names and accuse them of hate. You are pathetic.
Are not!
Rudy can handle the media. He did it as mayor until they begrudgingly gave him some respect for it and he'll do it again!
I wanted to vote for Duncan Hunter, but the race has started and his horse won't leave the gate.

(ducking behind the desk!)
Thanks for listing these.
You must have been up all night typing! :)
Those are some nice pix!
Nope I stole them from another Freeper. Permission granted of course. LOL!
(Politics is the art of the possible)
Well, you've taken on an impossible task... that of convincing the real conservatives and the Second Amendment crowd that Skeletor is NOT just a dem with a (R) behind his name....
Rudy would be an effective communicator and darn if he isn't someone who I think terrorists fear.
Where he loses me is on amnesty/border (non-)enforcement, global warming religion, and to a lesser extent on abortion. He'd get not-unfairly hammered for such prior picks as Kerik. I like his comments that he'd pick Scalia-type judges. I have no idea how good he'd be at reining in spending.
But, honestly, I would be upset too if I were a Hunter supporter and he couldn't gain enough traction to get out of the starting gate..
Saunders is a San Francisco Novak in a skirt...
I'm not necessarily a Hunter supporter yet. It depends on what actually happens between now and next March. But I do support him over Giuliani, simply because he takes the conservative positions. Don't let my tagline fool you, that is only one issue.
Rino Rudy is so liberal he makes one lose their fear of the democrats.
HAAATER! HAAATER! For a newbie you have the stock propaganda techniques down pat already.
must be crestfallen to realize he's gonna be the next President.
No, scared that he will win the nomination and return the GOP to the glory days of 1992 - when Papa Bush drifted leftward, broke his no new taxes pledge, denounced the NRA, and split the party.
I don't think it's our job to convince you of anything.
You decide, and vote. That's democracy.
The person with the most votes wins. Might I mention that, so far, Giuliani is kicking the rear end of everybody else?
I don't agree with Rudy at all on social issues, but if he will fight the war on islamofascism the way he took on crime and the mob in NYC, he's got my vote.
Also, the idea of another Clinton in the WH gives me nightmares and I think Rudy can beat her like a dirty rug.


[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000
TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999
MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?
MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...
MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]
MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....
MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?
MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000
LOL...Oh, sorry dirtboy, I forgot that only ole timers can have a point of view that differs with yours!
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Giuliani | Clinton | Dem Platform | GOP Platform |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Abortion on Demand | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Partial Birth Abortion | Supports Opposed NY ban |
Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Overturning Roe v. Wade | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
| Taxpayer Funded Abortions | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Embryonic Stem Cell Research | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Federal Marriage Amendment | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes Defined at state level |
Supports |
| Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Openly Gay Military | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Defense of Marriage Act | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
| Amnesty for Illegal Aliens | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens |
Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
| Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Protecting 2nd Amendment | Opposes |
Opposes | Opposes Supports bans |
Supports |
| Confiscating Guns | Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged. |
Supports | Supports Supports bans |
Opposes |
| 'Assault' Weapons Ban | Supports | Supports | Supports | |
| Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers |
Supports Filed One Himself |
Supports | Opposes | |
| Gun Registration/Licenses | Supports | Supports | Opposes | |
| War in Afghanistan | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports | Supports |
| War in Iraq | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports Weak support |
Supports |
| Patriot Act | Supports | Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006 |
Opposes | Supports |
Was just commenting on how quickly you have learned the stock tricks of the Rudy boosters. You must be a fast learner.
Maybe the comment was not pointing to you specifically... (your postings don't appear to fall into that category)
However, can you deny the hateful personal attacks on Rudy, his supporters or even those saying that they had not made up their minds on him? The threads are full of stuff that sounds like DU garbage.
Also, so far I've not seen personal attacks on Duncan Hunter or his beliefs. .. only questions if he can get on the radar screen and compete nationally against the DEM machine.
Big deal - If he makes the wrong decision.
Long time lurker! :-)
Well done, Registered. Very well done indeed.
Hillary wouldn't be eyeing the WH if Rudy had "beaten her like a dirty rug" back when he had the opportunity, rather than taking a rain-check.
"Meanwhile, back in Washington, members of Congress have been acting as if they were sent to Washington to make non-decisions. Witness the nonbinding House resolution being debated this week in which members profess to support U.S. troops in Iraq, but, "Congress disapproves of the decision of President George W. Bush announced on Jan. 10, 2007, to deploy more than 20,000 additional U.S. combat troops to Iraq."
One of the leaders of these RINO turncoats is Walter Jones, R-NC, he can be reached at 202-225-3415.
I really hate to see it happen, but with the current (lack of) leadership at the National Republican Committee, the party appears to be without a sail or a rudder. If Giuliani wins the nomination without the center or right on the social issues, the party will suffer the largest defeat in modern history.
You say you don't agree with Rudy at all on social issues. Do you seriously think that he could really fight the War on Terror like he did crime in New York? What will he do differently -- force gun registration on all the insurgents and Al Qaeda?
Giuliani is a very popular man, but he has not held any office higher than a municipal mayor. And his personal recommendation to President Bush for Director of Homeland Security was Bernie Kerik -- showing very poor judgment for a man who wants to be President.
Hey, Spiff, you might want to update your chart to cover global warming. Rudy is a believer!
(((((SIGH)))) Here we go again! What part of Prostrate cancer don't you understand??? Treatment??? Or is it Death???
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