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Experts testify on botched execution
gainesville.com ^ | 02/13/2007 | NATHAN CRABBE

Posted on 02/13/2007 6:36:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Alouette
What did his victims feel when they died?

My sentiments exactly.......

21 posted on 02/13/2007 7:13:53 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What did his victim feel ...? They DO need more practice.


22 posted on 02/13/2007 7:14:43 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: dfwgator

Did you see the scenes in the movie Elizabeth I where she had some people executed by opening their guts and showing them their organs while they were still conscious? Now that was an execution.


23 posted on 02/13/2007 7:19:18 AM PST by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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To: Thebaddog

I missed that scene from "Elizabeth" but I saw it in "Braveheart."


24 posted on 02/13/2007 7:21:54 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ouch, I had that happen to me where the needle punctures the vein and you get this bubble growing on your arm.

Having said that, I think he's lucky that's all he got. What did his victims feel?

I remember reading somewhere that they can't use Doctor's for this since it is against their Oath or something. That's fine, hire a junky from jail, they know how to get their precious drugs into their veins and not waste them on muscle tissue!

25 posted on 02/13/2007 7:36:28 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Does this event demonstrate cruel and unusual punishment to those being executed by lethal injection?
I think not. When that phrase was inserted into the Constitution, punishment was designed to cause the person pain. The pain was part of the punishment. Often, the executions were designed to be slow to maximize the pain.
Lethal injection is designed to spare the person pain. Any pain that may be caused is incidental to the execution and is unintentional.


26 posted on 02/13/2007 7:39:32 AM PST by quadrant
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To: Responsibility2nd

I'm originally from Idaho, and I think we've got a pretty good system: we use lethal injection, but should that prove "impractical," then it's off to the firing squad with your scummy @$$.


27 posted on 02/13/2007 7:42:55 AM PST by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Instead of using the veins in the inmate's arms, why don't they use the big fat one in their neck? Even if the inmate had lousy veins, it would be hard to muck things up using that vein.


28 posted on 02/13/2007 7:44:02 AM PST by sockmonkey
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To: Responsibility2nd

"A Florida inmate wasn't properly sedated and could have felt like he was suffocating in a botched execution last year"

One can only hope!


29 posted on 02/13/2007 7:48:14 AM PST by Garvin ("Who Elected The Media Anyway?")
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To: Responsibility2nd

What is amazing me here is where are all the freepers who were complaining about heartless comments regarding prisoners who are raped in prison. There were similar comments about doing the crime and doing the time, but on that thread all these people were getting attacked. Seems the same to me. If you commit a crime, be prepaired to pay the consequences. If you don't want to run the risk of a "botched" execution, then don't kill anyone. If you don't want to get raped in prison, don't get arrested three times for DWI. It's not like it's a secret that bad things happen in prison. This is common knowledge. Soap on a rope and all that.


30 posted on 02/13/2007 7:56:09 AM PST by spotbust1 (Gun control is when you use both hands.)
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To: spotbust1

I read that thread.

Many FReepers (it seems) could care less about rape in prison or botched executions.

I watched, the other night, on the National Geographic channel some "Lockdown" shows. They showed the very worst of violent inmates in maximum security prisons.

To me, these prisons torture those criminals. Talk about cruel and inhumane punishment! I can only imagine the mentality that prison guards must have as they interact with these feces-flinging wild inmates.

For their own good, and for the good of society, these prisons need mass executions to put those people down. If a person is so violent that they need lockdown 23 hours per day, then they deserve the mercy that only a needle can bring.

But no one ever said that prisons were places of mercy. So they continue to be warehouses of the most deranged and depraved people that ever polluted this earth.


31 posted on 02/13/2007 8:20:48 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Warning. If your tagline is funny... I may steal it.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Incompetent morons. Missing the vein with both needles is just stupid.

Of course, depending on such fine technique for a method of execution is even stupider. I am no fan of the death penalty, but aside from that, I see nothing postive about lethal injection. It gives the illusion of being antiseptic, but introduces other horrors.

If you're gonna do it, what's wrong with a good old, fashioned hanging? Or a firing squad. Or a Guillotine? Simple, foolproof and quick. Isn't that what you want in a method of execution?


32 posted on 02/13/2007 8:22:12 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Have you ever noticed that whatever the problem, the government's solution is always "more taxes"?)
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To: joe fonebone
death by 90 story drop.....completly painless

And the view on the way down - fabulous.
33 posted on 02/13/2007 8:26:03 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Every time a jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: chiefqc

"Headfirst into a giant wood chipper "

Gross and disgusting. Not comparable to the almost-medical technique of poisoning through a needle.

Speaking of gross and disgusting, ever read "Man's Fate"? About the Chinese cultural revolution. The "dissidents" or "freedom fighters" (depending if you read the Times or the Post) were thrown headfirst into a coal furnace.


34 posted on 02/13/2007 8:27:25 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Responsibility2nd

Hang them or get old sparky working.


35 posted on 02/13/2007 8:42:31 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Alouette

It was better in Liz's movie although shorter. They showed the guy his own entrails. Quite moving.


36 posted on 02/13/2007 10:16:20 AM PST by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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