Bush Aides Like What They See In Guiliani

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070212/12giuliani.htm ^

[MittFan08]

While the White House is taking a hands-off approach to the 2008 GOP presidential primaries so far, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani is quietly seeing an administration cheerleading section grow.

One insider said that it is built on the fact that Giuliani continues to beat Sen. John McCain in the polls and also because he is offering to stick with several Bush programs, including an aggressive stance against terrorists, and promises to name conservative judges to the court. One Bush official today noted Giuliani's pledge to nominate conservative judges and applauded the New Yorker for making that claim in liberal California.

"He didn't back away just because he was in California. In fact, he went there to make that statement. That's a very important signal," said the insider. Interestingly, even White House conservatives are showing support for Giuliani.

"He's the front-runner, and he's doing everything so far very good," said another official. "He isn't bending to what people want to hear. He kind of sounds like Bush did in 2000."

[Peach]

Ping aling.

[Paige]

Last week they were quietly supporting Romney. ROFLOL

Slow news day?

[Long Island Pete]

Bush Aides Like What They See In Guiliani

I DONT!

[babaloo]

Bush aides have had to deal with McCain for years. I am sure they are happy he is circling the drain.

[dmw]

Same here.

[Vaquero]

[Vaquero]

[Peach]

Reagan appointed Rudy as his #3 man at Department of Justice.

Rudy was pleased to receive the Ronald Reagan Freedom Award.

[Republic_of_Secession.]

Neither do I. Nor I suspect do a lot of Republicans.

[deport]

McCain's turn comes next week.......

[dirtboy]

Of course the Bush Admin likes Rudy. He's pro-amnesty and so are they. Who cares if that will split the GOP?

[Vaquero]

and I will keep going back to Rudy's own words as I posted so that Rudy can make my point for me.....

......the man was a great NYC Mayor and would be an improvement as a NYS Senator, but his views are to liberal for either POTUS or NY Governor.

[areafiftyone]

(((({PING)))))

[BunnySlippers]

((((( PING )))))


Rudy Ping List
Let me know if you want on or off.

[Puppage]

Define:Aide

[areafiftyone]

Good Morning Peach! I'm pinging away! ;-)

[BunnySlippers]

[Hydroshock]

Exactly.

[areafiftyone]

LOL! They are going to get double pinged! Yikes!

[BunnySlippers]

UH OH. :)

[areafiftyone]

It'll wake them up!

[Bahbah]

Thanks for the ping, Bunny.

[Afronaut]

It appears that Rudy Giuliani is campaigning as the lone antigun 2008 presidential candidate; even none of the Democrats are talking about gun control.

It worked so well for Elizabeth Dole in 2000 during her very brief campaign. Perhaps he has some of her advisers or, unlike Dole, Rudy may actually believe what he is saying on gun control."

What a Leftist!

[Peach]

Good morning.

Rudy is doing really well everywhere he campaigns, including the most conservative state of South Carolina.

[devane617]

If Bush Aids like what they see...That is reason enough for me to not support him.

[trisham]

"An insider". "An official". Yup, they're really coming out in support for Giuliani.

[ClarenceThomasfan]

Watch here comes the idiot spamming the board with the anti-Guiliani chart.

[ClarenceThomasfan]

The White House probably likes Guiliani because he supports the war in Iraq, he promised to appoint conservative judges and he has been a big backer of President Bush even in his darkest hour.

That is why I like him too.

[StatenIsland]

"...an aggressive stance against terrorists, and promises to name conservative judges to the court."

Stop right there. If these aren't your two top priorities, nos. 1 and 1A, then bash away.

If these indeed are your top priorities (in my case, something akin to taking my next breath) then the rest is inconsequential.

Favoring gun control while governing a city of 9+ million? Shocking? Face it, the average NYC resident doesn't know squat about guns; guns in the hands of non-law-enforcement individuals in a city like New York serves few purposes - principally murder, armed robbery and cop-killing.

Rudy cleaned up a cesspool he inherited from liberals - does that compute? He took liberal stances on some issues to get elected in a decidedly liberal city, yet he respects the Constitution and will appoint strict constructionist judges - does that give you a clue about how important an issue like "gun control" is to him?

If abortion and gun control were his hot-button issues, would he be promising to appoint conservative judges? Would a liberal end the welfare culture that permeated NYC, forcing people back to work and off the dole? Would he be locking up panhandlers, or would he, as a "liberal", be championing their right to "earn" a living from the sweat of YOUR brow?

Would a liberal have kicked Al Sharpton to the curb in the first week of his Administration? Would a liberal have tossed millions of bucks back in the face of an Arab prince? Would a liberal have physically removed scum like Yassar Arafat from a reception, branding him a murderer and humiliating him on an international stage?

RINO. I laugh at that. Who decided what makes a RINO a RINO? Perhaps the real "RINOS" are those that myopically latch onto social issues over which the President has little control, and ignore what Republicans should really stand for today; a tough, non-appeasement stance on Islamic extremists, belief in appointing strict, constructionist judges, and low taxes.

Rudy gets top grades on all three.

[areafiftyone]

Rudy is not going to touch your guns but that is something you guys will never learn. Rudy is more interested in fighting the WOT and keeping the economy going than your guns. And even the Bush White House knows that.

[areafiftyone]

Good Post!

[Spiff]

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani

[areafiftyone]

They're heeeeere! ;-)

[TitansAFC]

---"Watch here comes the idiot spamming the board with the anti-Guiliani chart."---

For the record, Free Republic has come out against the Rudy campaign. It is those who continue to promote him in spite oft his who are "spammers." The rest are people defending their conservative turf here.

There are plenty of Pro-Rudy sites. Why not post this stuff where it is wanted?

[Leatherneck_MT]

Why am I not surprised

[areafiftyone]

For the record, Free Republic has come out against the Rudy campaign

WRONG!! Just JR did and a few others. Try and tell that to our huge ping list. If you are suggesting that we move to another site FORGET IT!

[Spiff]

[areafiftyone]

We are not moving until JR says we have to. So you guys can debate us all you want but quit trying to tell us to leave here!

[areafiftyone]

[Spiff]

To: PhiKapMom
To make the socially liberal Rudolf Giuliani seem acceptable to Republicans, George Will tolls the death knell for the party of Reagan.

Basically, George Will calls for us to abandon the Christian values of Ronald Reagan and the traditional Judeo-Christian values of our Founding Fathers. But if we abandon our Judeo-Christian moral values then what are we left with? What value system produces the culture of death and decadence, atheism, abortion, gay marriage, the harvesting of embryonic stem cells, human cloning, eugenics, the erosion and destruction of moral society and of our cherished God-given unalienable rights? And what value system fights against such evil?
To accept Rudolf Giuliani as the leader of the Republican party, among many other socialist mores we've fought against for so many years, we are told that we must accept abortion into our hearts. It is an accepted practice in modern America and only a minority of Americans say otherwise. Why resist?

Well, I'm sorry. I do not accept abortion into my heart. And I doubt the majority of Americans will either.

The mass murder of helpless innocent babies in the womb is evil. Period. Poking sharp instruments into the skulls of partially born babies and sucking their brains out is grotesque barbarism so horrific to be beyond the ability of most people to fully comprehend. It's unthinkable evil.

Knowing that the Democrat Party lovingly embraces this evil as part of their platform literally makes me sick to my stomach. Every time I see the face of Hillary, Kennedy, Schumer, Reid, et al, I see the face of pure evil. It's as if I'm looking into the face of Nazism

Rudolf Giuliani does not deliver us from this evil, he delivers us to it.

If the Republican party embraces this evil culture of death platform as the Democrat party does, then I will have to agree... it's time to move on.

The party of Reagan will be dead. The party of Lincoln will be dead. The party of Jeffersonian life and liberty will be dead. The only party defending human life and liberty in America will be dead.

The Republican party becomes the Democrat party and the Democrat party becomes the communist party, the right to life and liberty in America be damned.

Time and evil marches on.

Please pray for America.


140 posted on 02/11/2007 4:43:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)

[areafiftyone]

And you constantly posting that is supposed to do what????

[Corin Stormhands]

Oh good, you're still alive.

I was concerned the thread had been up a whole 30 minutes and we hadn't seen your chart.

[Spiff]

And you constantly posting that is supposed to do what????

Ensure that the truth about the most liberal Republican presidential candidate ever is told in every one of your threads where you abuse this conservative forum to openly campaign for him.

[P-40]

an administration cheerleading section grow.

Never let a departing employee pick his successor...

[Corin Stormhands]

For the record, Free Republic has come out against the Rudy campaign.

Excuse me?

I know Jim has made his position clear. And I know this is Jim's site.

But I have yet to see Free Republic ~officially~ delcare ~against~ Rudy. There are a whole lot of long time FReepers who are supporting Rudy.

If Jim wants to make that an official FR position, then so be it. But I've not yet seen it.

I won't presume to speak for Jim.

Neither should you.

[Vaquero]

see #7 read....repeat

...from my dead cold hands....

[TitansAFC]

Listen, and I mean this politely:

Rudy Giuliani's idea of "Strict Constructionism" is RADICALLY different from our definition of strict Constructionism.

Let me break it down:

1.) Rudy calls himself a strict constructionist.

2.) Rudy has praised Supreme Court justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

3.) Rudy expressly believes that the Second Amendment COMPELS us to strictly regulate guns. He has stated that a "well-regulated militia" means strict gun regulation.

4.) He believes that there is a place for junk lawsuits against gun manufacturers in the law.

5.) He believes that Campaign Finance Reform is consistent with the First Amendment.

6.) He believes that Hate Crimes Legislation is consistent with the First Amendment.

7.) He has openly stated that he believes Roe vs. Wade is good law.

8.) He sees a place in law for the Practice of Partial Birth Abortion.

9.) He tried to get an extension as Mayor of NY, and even tried to have the law changed so that he could run again - a very Hugo Chavez-eques view of election laws.

10.) He sued the federal government over strict immigration laws, and acted in direct defiance of those laws to make NY an amnesty city.

11.) His record of appointing judges in NY is that of a far-leftist. He does not have total influence over all of the appointments; but it is entirely dishonest to say that it would have been impossible to get a single Conservative judge, or at least Consensus moderate judge, appointed in his entire tenure.


---His record, world view, legal view, and history all point to a radically different view of "strict constructionism" that most of us have. He cannot be trusted on the judges issue, because he is not credible. On the contrary, all factors considered indicate that we should be TERRIFIED of his judgment on said issue.

He cannot sell us on the "I'll appoint judges who'll protect you from myself" argument because he is not credible on the issue.

[areafiftyone]

Ensure that the truth about the most liberal Republican presidential candidate ever is told in every one of your threads where you abuse this conservative forum to openly campaign for him.

Listen If I were abusing this forum I would have been banned a long time ago. But apparently I am following the posting rules that I signed on to. You guys are creating your own rules. Tell me where it say we can't post Rudy posts that are in the news? We haven't even posted anything at all from his website - all these posts are from legit news sources. So your idea of abuse is us liking someone you in particular are opposed to and that's all.

[LongsforReagan]

I love how guys who have been here a couple of years are telling long timers who have been here the better part of a decade to get lost because of our support for Rudy. At least if we did there are many "Pro-Rudy" sites as you put it. Cant say the same for Duncan Hunter or Tancredo or any other of the fringe candidates.

GO RUDY!