Republican Calls For Email And IM Monitoring

VUNet ^ | 2/9/07 | Iain Thomson

[steve-b]

bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records....

[MD_Willington_1976]

lol.. tards.

Here lets see what I look at online, FR, THR, booty vote!, gmail, amd forum... pretty boring stuff...

[highball]

Party of Smaller Government, right....

[WakeUpAndVote]

Clueless.

[NonValueAdded]

Look for his ties to the storage industry.

[cinives]

LOL you got that right !

This guy needs to buy a clue.

[dl5192]

Unbelievable. Why there isn't a revolt against this expanding government in this country blows me away.

[stm]

I guess I better stop surfing all those porn sites!

[Vigilanteman]

Somebody tell me this is a joke. The guy is either smoking weed or trying to make a point.

[rhombus]

How is this any different than requiring all telephone companies to record all conversations? Or from requiring all cable television companies from recording what is watched and when? I don't thing the War on Terror requires that kind of sacrifice yet. If there's a question about somebody, sure check out their Internet traffic. Otherwise leave these businesses alone. A little too much fascism for me.

[RobRoy]

And they wonder why I don't vote any more.

It is too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the ba@@@rds.

Who is John Galt?

[LIConFem]

"Republican" sure doesn't mean what it used to.

[devnull]

OK... This guy is a Republican? Scary.

[dmw]

Tell me this is a joke!

[Stone Mountain]

So much for the party of small government...

[RobRoy]

>>How is this any different than requiring all telephone companies to record all conversations?<<

It isn't. Again, why I don't vote any more.

It's just too late.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Why there isn't a revolt against this expanding government in this country blows me away.

There is. Nobody is bothering to vote for Republicans any more. Unfortunately, that isn't a cure.

[T.Smith]

"Unbelievable. Why there isn't a revolt against this expanding government in this country blows me away."

Revolt?! Pfffft, far from it. People here on FR are still making red-hot posts about conservatives who were in no mood to vote Republican. We're all traitors, doncha' know?

There'll be no revolt in this country - ever.

[qam1]

Nanny State Ping

[steve-b]

Look for his ties to the storage industry.

Actually, my suspicions run a bit darker -- the last Congresscritter I remember as cultivating a protect-the-children rep had a name beginning with "M" and ending with "ark Foley"....

[NRA2BFree]

Big brother is watching and he's attempting to violate our First Amendment right to FRee speech, WITHOUT government intrusion!

[gdani]

...dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith

Further proof that if you frame a violation of constitutional rights as necessary for protection you have a better chance of success.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

better to do a 10 year pilot program of all elected officials and govt bureaucrats to prove such a programs usefulness

[jude24]

Clueless.

Let's see... the Republicans, rightly or wrongly, have been criticized for their domestic warrentless wiretaps of "terrorists,", and this lame-brain pulls this stunt?

"The Stupid Party" indeed.

[M203M4]

More toys for Hillary to play with. Idiots.

[KoRn]

ping

[Huck]

The guy is either smoking weed

Usually, the a-holes who come up with this sort of crap NEED to smoke a little weed.

[Gabz]

Nanny State STUPIDITY Ping............

[taxcontrol]

While DOABLE.... from a technical point of view, it is damn expensive, will create a huge cost burden on those with Internet connections, and

ultimately a WORTHLESS exercise.

If I want to hide my presence and actions on the Internet, I can do so in such a manner that it would be next to impossible for someone to track my actions.

[rhombus]

Again, why I don't vote any more. It's just too late.

So you just lie down and take it. That's the spirit. The left needs more people like you... may I call you comrade? ;-)

[Roux]

What an idiot..... Another reason the Republican's are losing. Even if they wanted to keep all the data, where would they store it?

[rhombus]

If I want to hide my presence and actions on the Internet, I can do so in such a manner that it would be next to impossible for someone to track my actions.

From your ISP? Why be mysterious? Share the knowledge.

[Squawk 8888]

The First didn't even come to mind for me- what about the Fourth? How could this law pass judicial muster if phone taps still require a warrant?

[L,TOWM]

Or has a brother in law that owns an optical storage/electronic archiving company.

[OPS4]

He will never be re-elected.

[Centurion2000]

When did the Republican party take a lurch towards fascism?

[flashbunny]

"There'll be no revolt in this country - ever."

Not true. Shut down starbucks, american idol, or grey's anatomy, and the people will revolt.

Take away their freedom piece by piece in the name of protecting them from some imagined boogeyman and they'll keep their heads in the sand forever.

[Calpernia]

I knew someone was after my recipe for lobster stuffed ravioli!

[gdani]

While DOABLE.... from a technical point of view, it is damn expensive, will create a huge cost burden on those with Internet connections, and

ultimately a WORTHLESS exercise.

There's a lot of money to be made in the WOT. And you don't have to actually make people safe. Just give them the impression you are.

[Petruchio]

And people wonder why I sold my ISP Biz.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

America is at that awkward stage.
It is too late to work within the system,
but too early to shoot the bastards.

- Claire Wolfe

[Calpernia]

You need to start a color code system for nanny pings. Something like: babysitter, nanny watch, dictator alert, Stalin has risen, run!

[AngelesCrestHighway]

Just shows the major disconnect between so called Republicans and the hope for smaller government....

[TomGuy]

First thought: It wouldn't survive the first court challenge.

Second thought: With some of the recent state and Federal court decisions, it might become law. CFR did; the Clinton Telecom bill did; and both of this had obvious unconstitutional provisions that the courts let slide into law.


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This is another attempt to control the Internet. Under the guise of terrorism or 'for the children' or other such shellgaming. It is little different that what both Hillary and John McCain would like -- to control the Internet.


IIRC, Echelon or a similar program is supposed to do this kind of thing, already. It, however, requires a court order. [Recall that x42 had to produce his emails -- some 32,000 of them -- to the court/prosecutor.]

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Also included is a 20-year "jail tariff" for anyone ordering child pornography that crosses state borders, with a $150,000 fine for the ISP that allowed the transaction to take place.

What is a "jail tariff"? Sounds like it is just another way for the government to collect revenue. Under this bill, the ISPs are tasked with becoming the Internet police. Isn't that convenient. The ISPs take the heat for collecting and get the lawsuits for invasion of privacy from the ACLU.

Who elected this idiot (Lamar Smith R-TX) to Congress? Oh, he has a R after his name, so he must be alright. [/s]

[AFreeBird]

This guy must be a RINO, cause he sure doesn't act like a Republican.

Or at least not how a Republican should act.

[353FMG]

The congressman from Texas is bored stiff and has nothing else to do than to submit new legislation. What else is new?

[relictele]

Technically ignorant people are usually a displeasure bordering on an irritant.

Technically ignorant lawmakers are a frightening lot...someone tells them 'this will sound good...makes you look like you're crusading against child porn.' Technically ignorant REPUBLICAN lawmakers are a serious annoyance.

[Tamar1973]

bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

Introduced by a REPUBLICAN!!!! I'm starting to wonder if Savage is right about Repulicrats and Demicans. They're two sides of the big government coin now.

[taxcontrol]

I will point you in the right direction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCKS
http://www.samair.ru/proxy/socks.htm

Do some reading and then follow this train of thought.

SSL or IPSec encrypted tunnel to a SOCKS server outside of the US. This is as far as the ISP will be able to see. That you contacted a server in some other country, period.

From that SOCKS server, you can surf as you please. Even ISPs on the destination side will only be able to track back to a site outside the US. Since the link between the two is held outside of the US, the logical linking of the two is much more difficult.

Further obscurity can be had via layered SOCKS accounts and/or further encryption tunnels.

[GraniteStateConservative]

9/12/01?