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Rudy Giuliani vs. the Greens
Competitive Enterprise Institute ^ | 2/6/2007 | John Berlau

Posted on 02/06/2007 2:09:57 PM PST by Uncledave

Rudy Giuliani vs. the Greens John Berlau | 2/6/2007 @ 2:44 pm [Contact John Berlau]

Former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani has all but declared himself a Republican presidential candidate by filing an official “statement of candidacy” and saying he is “in to win.” In my new book, Eco-Freaks: Environmentalism Is Hazardous to Your Health, I reveal a surprising fact about Giuliani that so far has been little discussed in national coverage: Giuliani’s record as New York mayor of standing up to green groups to take steps to promote prosperity and public health. In Eco-Freaks, I detail Giuliani’s tough fight to spray pesticides to curb the spread of the newly-arrived West Nile virus in 1999.

In a section of Eco-Freaks entitled “Rudy Stands Up to the Greens,” I write of Giuliani’s actions when the virus first appeared in the U.S. in 1999 and was diagnosed in New York City as West Nile. Giuliani “ordered aggressive, but targeted spraying of pesticides in spots that mosquitoes were most likely to congregate. But environmentalists fought him all the way. They downplayed the very real risk of West Nile — to humans and animals — while hyping the risks of peticides.” Even after being threatened with lawsuits, Giuliani persisted.

Giuliani’s courageous actions may have prevented West Nile — although still a serious virus that is made worse by continuing enviro campaigns against mosquito spraying — from becoming a rapid bird-flu like pandemic in the U.S. after it first arrived in New York City. As I write in Eco-Freaks, although he didn’t receive the glory for these actions as he did for those in 2001, “Giuliani displayed [in the West Nile crisis] the courageous leadership the nation would again observe in the days after the 9/11 attacks.”

Giuliani has also made statements in support of nuclear energy and Arctic oil drilling. In the past, Giuliani has not been afraid to be seen as “environmentally incorrect” if he belives the policies he advocates are correct for the nation. If he continues this straight talk during the campaign, Americans may be attracted to another courageous side of Giuliani.


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1 posted on 02/06/2007 2:09:58 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

Works for me


2 posted on 02/06/2007 2:12:06 PM PST by cmsgop ( How do we know he's NOT Mel Torme?)
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To: Uncledave
Sorry, but Eeeeeeew!
3 posted on 02/06/2007 2:14:57 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Uncledave
Giuliani has also made statements in support of nuclear energy and Arctic oil drilling.

I'd like to hear him talk about this in more detail.

4 posted on 02/06/2007 2:15:20 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

I can hardly wait to see how Rudy rips new ones all over the place.


5 posted on 02/06/2007 2:15:34 PM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Eeeeew? I think it's sweet. Who's got a pic of Teresa/Jon Carry kissing?


6 posted on 02/06/2007 2:17:14 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: PhiKapMom; areafiftyone; BunnySlippers

Rudy has more cajones than the entire Congressional Republican leadership put together.


7 posted on 02/06/2007 2:18:36 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Rudy has a strong 84% conservative approval rating. (Battle ground poll as of Jan.11, '07)


8 posted on 02/06/2007 2:18:58 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

The rebirth of New York City, the most visible urban achievement in the 20th century is the work of the person now dubbed America’s mayor. For the millions of Americans who live in New York and the millions more who work or whose livelihood has been affected by its revival the contrast between the pre and post Giuliani years could not be more striking.

His defense of Israel and intolerance for Arab and U.N. sponsored anti-Semitism is legendary.

He figuratively walked into the lion's den of a crime ridden, high tax, and decaying city and carried out a conservative agenda of tax cuts, crime reduction and, in the case of the Brooklyn Museum, defense of religion in the public square. On this count Giuliani seems to be the winner in the public character category for his extraordinary vision and leadership.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780064/posts


9 posted on 02/06/2007 2:19:17 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

Indeed, in one recent poll, majorities of Republicans who were informed of Giuliani’s views on social issues said that they were either minor issues or no issues at all; only 16% said that they wouldn't vote for him after being informed of these views.

In the online GOP Bloggers poll, Giuliani is consistently one of the few candidates to end up with a net positive acceptability rating. These internet denizens are well-informed, and overwhelmingly self-describe as conservative (78% self-describe as 7 or higher on a 10-scale of conservatism). If these people can support Rudy, anyone can.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/


10 posted on 02/06/2007 2:19:37 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Uncledave; Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; ...

Please freep mail areafiftyone if you would like to be added to the Rudy for President list!

PKM


11 posted on 02/06/2007 2:19:37 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Uncledave

Rudy also kicked Arafat out of a concert hall. This was back when it wasn't fashionable and Clinton was hosting the terrorist in the White House as his most frequent guest.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19980


12 posted on 02/06/2007 2:19:52 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

I agree 100%!


13 posted on 02/06/2007 2:20:24 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Peach

I remember this West Nile spraying incident. Funny how one forgets these details and it comes back now that we're thinking about 2008.

I was reminded the other day how he defunded an art exhibit at the Brooklyn Museum because it was that anti-Christian crucifix/urine kind of garbage.


14 posted on 02/06/2007 2:20:40 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Uncledave

I think it's a stupid move for him to allow the cover of the NY Post to show that...unless he has no say in it? I mean, it's sort of a tabloid-ish paper, isn't it?

His THIRD, much younger wife? Two failed marriages behind him? This stuff matters to a lot of Conservatives, and he's going to need EVERY one of their votes now and later if he's nominated.

Just a very poor PR move, IMHO, if he had any say in it. And if he didn't he'd better do some damage control, toot sweet. I'd expect something like that from, say, Donald Trump, but someone that wants to appear Presidential? Nope.


15 posted on 02/06/2007 2:21:48 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I doubt he has any say on what the NY Post puts on the cover. And whatever his past marriage problems, I don't think kissing his wife is anything he needs to apologize for.


16 posted on 02/06/2007 2:23:40 PM PST by Uncledave
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

When you are a public figure you have no control over what appears on the front page of newspapers or rags.


17 posted on 02/06/2007 2:23:50 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy/Newt -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: Uncledave

And going after Arafat at a time when Clinton was practically dating the guy took guts!


18 posted on 02/06/2007 2:24:23 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Uncledave

19 posted on 02/06/2007 2:25:55 PM PST by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: PhiKapMom

I'm taking a wait and see attitude. I'm not impressed with any of the GOP candidates right now. I'll give Rudy points on the WOT, but he has a lot of personal baggage.

How you conduct your personal life is as important as your public life, IMHO. But that's just me. :)


20 posted on 02/06/2007 2:27:23 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Peach
Three important issues for me in the 2008 presidential election.

#1 Support our troops

#2 Homeland Security

#3 Prevent a democrat from becoming president

21 posted on 02/06/2007 2:27:53 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Uncledave
This is definitely a plus for Giuliani. How does he fare on the Kyoto Treaty? Abortion? Taxes? The Supreme Court? The Second Amendment? Immigration? Welfare Reform? Earmarks? Gay "Rights?" The World War engaging us?

I would say if he plans to run as a Republican, he perhaps should start outlining his take on "hot button issues" and how he has dealt with them in words or deeds in the past.

22 posted on 02/06/2007 2:29:44 PM PST by stevem
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To: BARLF

Ditto. 100%.

National security comes first. Period.


23 posted on 02/06/2007 2:29:54 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

So that probably moves my keep a democrat from becoming president to #1.


24 posted on 02/06/2007 2:32:30 PM PST by BARLF
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To: PhiKapMom

Im sorry but that looks like a photo op, not a candid shot.

I will say it looks a whole lot better than John and Theresas kiss, which wasnt just EWW, but creepy;)


25 posted on 02/06/2007 2:32:39 PM PST by OMalley (Hi Mom:) Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Uncledave
Rudy Roto Rooter, thats the name
and away goes Rudy down the drain!
26 posted on 02/06/2007 2:38:58 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: BARLF
#4 also extending the GOP and giving a Conservative form to "urban Conservatives." Those who are being perceived as being moderates or Rino's or worse when all they differ in is not being a part of small town and southern culture or being a part of Evangelical church's with the resulting differences.
27 posted on 02/06/2007 2:39:10 PM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: Peach

If we're all blown up by Ahmadinijad or by domestic suicide bombers, we won't be able to discuss the fine points of the 2nd Amendment or Roe V Wade, as I see it.

Rudy took some very unpopular positions, as mayor of NYC, without the loving support of Congressional Republicans or the grassroots pacs.

Rudy was fighting terrorism when it was still only "a nuisance." That counts for a lot with me.

I pray to God he's becoming 'nuanced' in an effort to put the mainstream Republicans and Conservatives at ease over his views, not pulling the wool over our eyes. Only time will tell.


28 posted on 02/06/2007 2:39:42 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Peach
National security comes first. Period.

Agreed!

Standing up to 'greens' is way down the list!

29 posted on 02/06/2007 2:40:43 PM PST by airborne (Elect an Airborne Ranger,Vietnam Veteran for President ! Duncan Hunter 2008!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It's a good photo. He loves his wife, that's nice...we admire that quality in Pres. Bush with Laura, and we enjoyed seeing the very overt devotion between Ronald and Nancy (who also had been previously married). This shows "a softer side" to Rudy, who often seems hard-edged.


30 posted on 02/06/2007 2:43:30 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: bilhosty

Agree


31 posted on 02/06/2007 2:45:04 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
His THIRD, much younger wife?

According to the article in the NY Post she is 52... I will admit she looks a lot younger in that photo than in most I have seen.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/02062007/news/nationalnews/runnin_mates_judi_n_rudy_aim_for_08_nationalnews_stephanie_gaskell_and_kate_sheehy.htm

32 posted on 02/06/2007 2:48:56 PM PST by DKNY ("You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it." --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: BonnieJ

I don't think true Conservatives and the Religious Right everyday voters are going to be so forgiving of a thrice married, pro-abortion, gun-grabbing man as President.

As I said, I'm undecided and am hoping and holding out for more in my GOP candidate than someone that puts (R) behind their name. But that's just me. :)


33 posted on 02/06/2007 2:48:56 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Post puts whatever they want on the cover. I don't think he pushed this picture on them.

2nd, his wife isn't exactly much younger than he is. She's 52, he's 62. So they're about 10 years apart. Most guys tend to be a bit older than their wives so 10 years isn't exactly a huge difference. FWIW, Nancy was 10 years younger than Ron, or the same difference between Rudy and his wife. Is there really a huge difference between a 2nd wife who's 10 years younger and a 3rd wife who's 10 years younger?

Also, I don't know too much about the 1st marriage. Apparently they discovered that they were actually 1st cousins after the marriage and had it annulled so I don't know if it would count as failed. The 2nd one, yes.

I think, to a certain extent, him being from NYC is just going to ratchet this up 1000% and there's going to be way more press coverage on things like this than for a guy from a smaller market with less of a profile.

The thing is, the Post is generally pro GOP and pro conservative, so it's not like they did this to get him or anything. They had to think it would help.


34 posted on 02/06/2007 2:50:26 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: stevem

That's a good point you bring up about how the President has to dela with so many issues. As mayor or Governor or even Senator, it's almost impossible for one guy to become an expert on everything. It'll be interesting to see how he handles the transition from dealing with mostly local issues to more broad, national ones.

Reagan handled this by focusing on a few key issues above everything. Lower taxes, less Govt, and a strong defense/anti communist policy. I think if Rudy took a similar stance and really focused on lower taxes, less spending, and good judges at home, and a strong defense and tough on jihad policy abroad, he'd do well. I think he'll get in trouble if he tries to be too much of a wonk on the issues. Only Newt can really pull that off.


35 posted on 02/06/2007 2:55:02 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: DKNY

she's 10 years younger than he is. the same difference between Ron and Nancy. Did anyone harp on Reagan having a much younger 2nd wife?

I agree, that photo may have been touched up. She looks much younger than 52 there.


36 posted on 02/06/2007 2:57:44 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

"They had to think it would help."

I guess we'll see in the end. :)


37 posted on 02/06/2007 2:59:34 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Uncledave

sounds good


38 posted on 02/06/2007 3:10:29 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (Find out what brand the Ethiopians are drinking and send a case to all my generals.)
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To: jeltz25
she's 10 years younger than he is. the same difference between Ron and Nancy. Did anyone harp on Reagan having a much younger 2nd wife?

I agree, that photo may have been touched up. She looks much younger than 52 there.

Not in my recollection they didn't.

Touched up photo or not, I think it is sweet.

39 posted on 02/06/2007 3:11:03 PM PST by DKNY ("You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it." --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Uncledave
Who's got a pic of Teresa/Jon Carry kissing?

That was a kiss?

40 posted on 02/06/2007 3:13:03 PM PST by My2Cents ("I support the right-ward most candidate who has a legitimate chance to win." -- W.F. Buckley)
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To: Uncledave

If he declares war on the green gestapo, he moves into my "candidate to watch" category.

Eco-fascism is a movement designed to crush individual property rights and establish collective rights (Marxism), as determined by the state. From that, come other attacks on our liberties.


41 posted on 02/06/2007 3:27:07 PM PST by sergeantdave (Consider that nearly half the people you pass on the street meet Lenin's definition of useful idiot)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
That third wife may not be much younger than Rudy. Do an image search of "Judy Nathan" on Google and see how old she looked even five years ago.

Some of us who remember the countless fabricated stories in the NY Times over the years are asking ourselves why a tabloid rag like the NY Post is putting a doctored photo of Rudy Giuliani and his wife on the cover of a "newspaper."

42 posted on 02/06/2007 3:29:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Peach
Rudy has more cajones than the entire Congressional Republican leadership put together.

Yeah, but with Trent Lott back in the mix, you've got a negative ball quotient throwing the equation.

43 posted on 02/06/2007 3:51:20 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((PING)))))


44 posted on 02/06/2007 3:58:49 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: randog

ROFL. That's the dog gone honest truth.


45 posted on 02/06/2007 3:59:31 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: My2Cents; Uncledave
That was a kiss?

No that was excruciating pain! LOL!

46 posted on 02/06/2007 4:00:48 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Very nice photo.


47 posted on 02/06/2007 4:03:24 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Peach
Rudy also kicked Arafat out of a concert hall. This was back when it wasn't fashionable and Clinton was hosting the terrorist in the White House as his most frequent guest.

I love Rudy's style ... just kicking Arafat out personally rather than going through diplomatic channels! Ha!

48 posted on 02/06/2007 4:04:50 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: areafiftyone

Glenn Beck's doing a good segment about Rudy on CNN now (a GREAT show - suprising for CNN).


49 posted on 02/06/2007 4:07:09 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DTogo

I have heard that he is pro gun control? Did they cover that?


50 posted on 02/06/2007 4:16:29 PM PST by marsh2
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