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Governor Proposes Selling Texas Lottery
Newsday ^ | 2/6/07 | KELLEY SHANNON

Posted on 02/06/2007 2:04:55 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

AUSTIN, Texas -- Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday proposed selling the state lottery for at least $14 billion to create an endowment for Texans without health insurance and a trust fund for cancer research.

That money could be used to form a $2.7 billion endowment for the uninsured and to create a $3 billion fund for the fight against cancer, Perry said in his State of the State address.

Both funds would generate ongoing payments, he said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: shellgame
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1 posted on 02/06/2007 2:04:58 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Recall!!!!!


2 posted on 02/06/2007 2:07:41 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Both funds would generate ongoing payments...

... as well as higher taxes.

This effectively earmarks the lottery revenues for a new set of expenditures. The lottery revenues will have to be replaced, somehow.

The implication is that this is all somehow free, found money. It isn't.

3 posted on 02/06/2007 2:08:43 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Now, I'm not even from TX, but why do I get the heebie-jeebies everytime I see the words trust fund used by politicians?
4 posted on 02/06/2007 2:09:00 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: kiriath_jearim
Rick Perry also said he found a really good deal on a bridge and some swamp land.

All hair, no brain.

5 posted on 02/06/2007 2:10:32 PM PST by isthisnickcool (The only reason you are still conscious is because I don't want to carry you- J. Bauer)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Time for a recall or a ride on a rail. Good-hair Perry needs to GTFO.


6 posted on 02/06/2007 2:10:59 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: ConservaTexan

He's lost his mind.


7 posted on 02/06/2007 2:11:19 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: kiriath_jearim

Do illegal aliens qualify?


8 posted on 02/06/2007 2:11:43 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Do illegal aliens qualify?

Of course they would. More pandering by the Republicrats in Texas.

9 posted on 02/06/2007 2:12:55 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If you're not being shot at, it's not a high stress job.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I guess I'm not seeing the big picture.
Isn't the lotto an income generating business of sorts? Why sell that off?


10 posted on 02/06/2007 2:13:46 PM PST by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: kiriath_jearim

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061217/LOCAL19/612170446/1006/LOCAL


11 posted on 02/06/2007 2:15:29 PM PST by digger48
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To: ConservaTexan

Is Perry friends with any female astronuts? It's getting hard to tell Texas residents apart without a score card.


12 posted on 02/06/2007 2:15:32 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: kiriath_jearim

The lottery: a tax on stupid people and now up for the highest bidder. Can we get any more corrupt?


13 posted on 02/06/2007 2:16:06 PM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: McLynnan
He's lost his mind.

No, he's paying back reelection campaign debts! I know Merck & Co., Inc. was a financial supporter and we got the HPV vaccine order. Now, I am willing to bet that he is somehow financially beholden to someone in this lottery deal.

14 posted on 02/06/2007 2:16:06 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: kiriath_jearim

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007701260381


15 posted on 02/06/2007 2:16:19 PM PST by digger48
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To: kiriath_jearim

Funny how they only talk about the two endowments which only ads up to $5.7 billion. There is that pesky $8.3 billion of remaining monies from the sale.

And of course the loss of annual revenue of $3.8 billion.

But hey, privatization!


16 posted on 02/06/2007 2:16:27 PM PST by ItsMyVoteDammit
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To: kiriath_jearim

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50B15F634540C708EDDA80894DF404482&n=Top%2fNews%2fU%2eS%2e%2fU%2eS%2e%20States%2c%20Territories%20and%20Possessions%2fIndiana


17 posted on 02/06/2007 2:16:55 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

LOL! There's always an angle for these politicians...


18 posted on 02/06/2007 2:18:32 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Has Perry just gone out of his freaking mind lately?


19 posted on 02/06/2007 2:18:44 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: ConservaTexan

Could be, but he's still lost his mind. Aren't the lottery funds earmarked for education?


20 posted on 02/06/2007 2:19:46 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: isthisnickcool
"All hair, no brain."

The perfect minbo.

And while I swore that I would NOT vote for the governor slot I went ahead and mashed the screen for Perry.

The scary part he that he is STILL the best one of the lot.

Oh well, might as well take Claytie's advice.

21 posted on 02/06/2007 2:21:18 PM PST by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

One bad move after another...his political career just came to an end.


22 posted on 02/06/2007 2:21:20 PM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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To: kiriath_jearim

"That money could be used to form a $2.7 billion endowment for the uninsured and to create a $3 billion fund for the fight against cancer,"




that won't last the illegals long


23 posted on 02/06/2007 2:24:31 PM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I make jokes about giving California back to Mexico and giving Massachusetts back to the British.

Looks like we are giving Texas back to Mexico one piece at a time. Looks like the joke is on the citizens of Texas.

Coming soon -- State Income Tax !!! After the 2008 elections. Just watch.


24 posted on 02/06/2007 2:24:44 PM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: McLynnan
Aren't the lottery funds earmarked for education?

No, that lie was told by Ann Richards I believe. The money goes into the general fund, everyone has their hands in it.

25 posted on 02/06/2007 2:25:25 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Centurion2000

Wasn't it a group of Republican Governors who were responsible for putting forth George W. Bush for President?


26 posted on 02/06/2007 2:26:13 PM PST by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Proud_texan
Oh well, might as well take Claytie's advice.

If you can't stop it, you might as well enjoy it.

27 posted on 02/06/2007 2:27:23 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ConservaTexan
I am always impressed by those that catch the reference!

Only I've yet to figure how one can enjoy this one...heavy drinking?

28 posted on 02/06/2007 2:30:06 PM PST by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

You are all in favor of cancer and stuff!!!


Sarcasm


29 posted on 02/06/2007 2:33:21 PM PST by skaterboy
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To: ConservaTexan
Does Texas have "recall" on the books? I doubt it.

Anyway, the ONLY reason Perry won re-election is the other three candidates managed to be even more mediocre than him. Illinois had the same situtation where Governor Blagojevich (Idiot-Hairspray) had a 30% approval rating but won re-election due to his "opposition" being the ultra corrupt RINO state treasuer and a southern Illinois trial lawyer Green Party nominee who turned out to be a literal card-carrying Communist.

Perry's won the "popular" vote with 39% and Blago won the "popular" vote with 48% (and barely managed to even win the primary against a total unknown). Perry's so bad I was openly pulling for Kinky Friedman myself, until Kinky went off the deep end and announced a plan for "universal health care" in addition to legalizing crack and gay marriage. That was the last straw for me.

Any halfway decent candidate would have beaten Perry easily, and any halfway decent candidate would have beaten Blago. The problem is the "choices" on the ballot consisted of awful, awful, awful, and awful.

Perhaps instead of recall, we should have "none of the above" on the ballot in every election, like Nevada does. If "none of the above" manages to beat the real candidates, there should be a new election and the parties would be barred from nominating candidates defeated by "none of the above".

30 posted on 02/06/2007 2:33:30 PM PST by BillyBoy (Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi -- we elected ROSKAM)
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To: USMMA_83
Should this happen I think that it would open up Texas to Indian Gaming. The lottery would be legal private gambling and once you have that you can't keep the Tribes out, at least as I understand it. Don't know if they would be limited to their own lottery or if they could open casinos or something in between.
31 posted on 02/06/2007 2:33:39 PM PST by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I look at it this way...

How much does it cost to have the people working for the state? Given the benefits that gubmint jobs provide, it seems outsourcing SHOULD be an option


32 posted on 02/06/2007 2:41:32 PM PST by digger48
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To: kiriath_jearim

You know those ads that come on TV urging lottery and other award winners to sell their winnings for quarters on the dollar? The states have been going on a binge of doing the same thing, whether its proposing selling the lottery, or toll roads, or offering "lifetime hunting licenses".

The whole idea is to get the money into the coffers now to cover up budget shortfalls in the short term and forget about what happens down the road.


33 posted on 02/06/2007 2:44:35 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Do illegal aliens qualify?

Of course, who do you think this would be for?
34 posted on 02/06/2007 2:52:06 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: VeniVidiVici
Has Perry just gone out of his freaking mind lately?

It sure looks like it. I don't know what the hell his problem is. It looks like some big bucks bought him off on more than one thing
35 posted on 02/06/2007 2:54:47 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: PetroniDE
Looks like we are giving Texas back to Mexico one piece at a time.

They have just about taken it over and we're just opening door after door after door for them, as if we don't have a choice.
36 posted on 02/06/2007 2:57:12 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: ibbryn

For one thing it was established as a "trust fund" for education.


37 posted on 02/06/2007 3:01:11 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: USMMA_83

Well, I think the biggest tax increase in Texas history sort of put the handwriting on the wall...


38 posted on 02/06/2007 3:04:20 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Proud_texan

You mean if rape is inevitable lie back and enjoy it?


39 posted on 02/06/2007 3:06:56 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Old_Mil

But we don't HAVE a budget shortfall, that's why we don't understand why he keeps trying to get us in the shorts.


40 posted on 02/06/2007 3:09:06 PM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1
Yup, you win a beer!

Humm, I wonder if they plan on increasing taxes on beer, too?

41 posted on 02/06/2007 3:17:21 PM PST by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: ichabod1

Perhaps he wants to engage in deficit spending without the political consequences.


42 posted on 02/06/2007 3:34:40 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I have yet a better idea, let the State put lottery licenses out for bid on eBay, and let the number of licenses be unlimited. If they had audit requirements and a gross receipts tax, the amount of total lottery business would easily exceed what they have now, but the State's take would be higher.

Putting aside how absurd it is to find ourselves being prohibited from running private lotteries in the first place, is it the citizen's job to maximize the size of the State by allowing it to first seize a monopoly on lotteries and then to claim it has clear title to the only legal one, so it can dispose of it as it pleases? Isn't it really the citizen's job to instead optimize the size the state to allow the maximum liberty?
43 posted on 02/06/2007 3:39:08 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: ConservaTexan

Not trying to be argumentative, but if you look at the lottery website they claim all proceeds go to public school education. Look here: http://www.txlottery.org/export/sites/default/Supporting_Education/


44 posted on 02/06/2007 4:05:04 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: skaterboy
You are all in favor of cancer and stuff!!!

LOL!

45 posted on 02/06/2007 4:07:34 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am not an administrative, public, corporate or legal 'person'.....and neither are my children!)
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To: McLynnan
You are correct. I looked it up and in 1997 the Texas Legislature marked the money from the lottery for the Foundation School Fund. From 1992 to 1997 the monies went into the general fund and everyone was trying to get a piece of it. Unfortunately, there are no controls on how the money is spent. Look at the new $71 million dollar high school football stadium/education center built near Houston.

CFISD Berry Center

46 posted on 02/06/2007 5:03:35 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: McLynnan

In Tennessee, lottery money must go to education (by constitutional amendment). Yeah, money is fungible, so sales tax revenue that could have gone to education can now go to other things, but if in Texas the lottery money is going to education by statute (and not constitutional amendment), and if it takes a statute to sell off the lottery, it would be possible for the new statute to repeal the old statute.

My sense of it is that the novelty of lotteries is wearing off and people aren't playing them as much, so maybe it does make sense from the state's perspective to sell.

Of course, must the payout remain the same if the lottery is sold? I would think though that players wouldn't stomach less than 50% payout.


47 posted on 02/06/2007 5:11:12 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: kiriath_jearim

What the hell has gone wrong in Texas???


48 posted on 02/06/2007 5:12:06 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: ConservaTexan; scrabblehack

Since the funds are earmarked for education, how is Perry going to replace them once he sells the lottery and sets up his little health care endowment? The most likely answer is the Texas taxpayer will take up the slack. Just today the state Republican party congratulated Perry on his plan to return excess funds to Texans in the form of property tax relief. We can kiss that goodbye with this lottery plan.

Hospitals would be thrilled to have the lottery pay for indigent health care, but I don't think this is the answer.


49 posted on 02/06/2007 6:20:00 PM PST by McLynnan
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To: ibbryn
I guess I'm not seeing the big picture. Isn't the lotto an income generating business of sorts? Why sell that off?

The big picture is clear as day, it's money for the politicians to hand out today. In a couple years when the money is spent and the revenue source is gone, that's someone else's problem.

50 posted on 02/06/2007 6:57:18 PM PST by CGTRWK
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