Posted on 02/01/2007 2:30:56 PM PST by Dark Skies
More voters say they would be comfortable with former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani as president than other top 2008 contenders, though majorities would also be comfortable with other leaders from both parties, according to the latest FOX News Poll. In addition, of all the 2008 hopefuls — announced or frequently mentioned as a possibility — voters want to hear more from one candidate specifically: Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.
Opinion Dynamics Corporation conducted the national telephone poll of 900 registered voters for FOX News from January 30 to January 31. The poll has a 3-point error margin.
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Uh oh!
Bull.
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Giuliani | Clinton | Dem Platform | GOP Platform |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Abortion on Demand | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Partial Birth Abortion | Supports Opposed NY ban |
Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Roe v. Wade | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Taxpayer Funded Abortions | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Embryonic Stem Cell Research | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Federal Marriage Amendment | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes Defined at state level |
Supports |
| Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Openly Gay Military | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Defense of Marriage Act | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
| Amnesty for Illegal Aliens | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens |
Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
| Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
| Protecting 2nd Amendment | Opposes |
Opposes | Opposes Supports bans |
Supports |
| Confiscating Guns | Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged. |
Supports | Supports Supports bans |
Opposes |
| 'Assault' Weapons Ban | Supports | Supports | Supports | |
| Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers |
Supports Filed One Himself |
Supports | Opposes | |
| Gun Registration/Licenses | Supports | Supports | Opposes | |
| War in Afghanistan | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports | Supports |
| War in Iraq | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports Weak support |
Supports |
| Patriot Act | Supports | Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006 |
Opposes | Supports |
Go Rudy Go!
I like the guy but the whole 'dress in drag' to pose for pictures thing eliminates him from eligibility IMO.
I think that the only thing one can say about this poll is that, those that want him for president will believe it, and those that don't, won't.
yes!
Rudy connects across the spectrum, much like Reagan. :)
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The Cross Dressing community must have been over sampled.
Much like Reagan?
Rudy clearly has the momentum.
If this keeps up look for the GOP insiders to pull out the long knives on McCaine.
Paybacks a ......
These are good numbers for Rudy.
Indeed. Go... away.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/2006/10/duncan_hunters_voting_record.php
Rudy cut taxes, cut the size of city government, reduced welfare rolls, ended racial preferences & quotas in city hiring, and best of all, reduced crime.
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I really wouldn't be surprised if a majority of Americans feel comfortable with ALL the top-tier candidates in both parties. Gingrich needs to run and derail the leftist crossdresser now (he's probably the only conservative that can beat Giuliani and McCain in the primary.)
On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
The Real Rudy Giuliani:
From Human Events:
Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance
As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:
"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.
I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...
Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.
Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:
"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999
It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?
Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.
An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate
In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?
Soft on Gay Marriage
Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.
Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:
His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."
Here's more from the New York Daily News:
"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.
The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.
"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."
Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.
Pro-Illegal Immigration
As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:
"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."
That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:
"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."
If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.
A More Charismatic Version of Arlen Specter
Rudy Giuliani may have many fine qualities, but he is not a conservative, nor has he always been a loyal Republican.
For example, back in the mid-nineties, when he was actually running New York City, Rudy could have fairly been said to have governed as a moderate at best and to the left-of-center at worst:
"The National Journal’s rating system put him at 56 percent conservative and 44 percent liberal on economic issues in 1996 and assessed him as liberal by 59 to 40 percent in looking at his social issues votes."
The New York Observer also had a very interesting selection of quotes from and about Rudy over the years that may give his conservative supporters more than a little pause. Here are a few of those quotations:
Some ask, How can the Liberal Party support a candidate who disagrees with the Liberal Party position on so many gut issues? But when the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion. -- N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of R. Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989
Mr. Rockefeller represented "a tradition in the Republican Party I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." -- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, July 9, 1992
What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." -- Village Voice, January 24, 1989
"Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, [Giuliani] told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." The Daily News quoted [Giuliani] as saying that March: "Whether you talk about President Clinton, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group."
Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, he explained: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." -- Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459
"From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, 'Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." -- Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City, Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133
"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." -- Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S., Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994
Does this really sound like the sort of candidate we want as a standard bearer for the Republican Party?
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Tough on crime usually is code for gun-grabber. I saw nothing about second amendment rights on Giuliani's presidential website last I looked.
NOT ME!
I dunno about "comfortable," but IF he is solid on picking Scalia types for the courts, I'd prefer him over any of the Dems running.
Comfortable with an almost Liberal, I don't think so.
OTOH. Your chart ROCKS! "Tomato & powderblue".
Rudy is no conservative. Just another NYCity liberal.
No thanks.
Where did you get the "support/opposes" info on Rudy?
So apparently cleaning up the most violent city isn't conservative....
NYC is not Texas. Gun control was already the law anyway, and Rudy cracked down on the felons and thugs gunowners.
FACT!
Where have all the CONSERVATIVES gone?? Oh, I forgot, they got bought off with the political power of socialism and the lure of liberalism.
Forget I asked....
It's a New York thing, to me Rudy dressing up in drag tells me that he's easy-going and self-confident.
I think it's either Rudy, or get used to the idea of President Clinton Part 2 or Barak.
Unless a guy like Duncan Hunter can pull off an upset of historical proportions, never before equaled. Which I don't believe will happen. Hunter has next to no chance.
Supporting a fiscal and national security conservative candidate in Rudy, and one who'll be stronger on social issues than any Democratic opponent.
Oh, I forgot, they got bought off with the political power of socialism and the lure of liberalism.
Cutting taxes & limiting the size of government is "socialism?" You people are effing nuts.
Aah, you're being captious. He's a libertarian on social issues which is all one can hope for in President.
From his years as mayor and the many statements he's made over the years. Which one are you interested in?
Very nice, but the one "true conservative" on the list of this Fox Poll, Newt Gingrich, has a 49% disapproval rating--and that will only get worse as the Democrats remind voters of why they don't like him. And I dispute the extent to which he's a true conservative in practice anyway, being as he caved to Clinton's big spending in the 90s so much so that we dispatched with him as Speaker if you'll remember. No, Gingrich is good at the conservative talk, not so good at the conservative walk.
Sorry, but Gingrich's personal and political baggage means we have no choice but to be pragmatic and support a candidate who can win, Rudy Guiliani. The positions you cite are positions he had to take to win as mayor of New York City. He'll move right on many of them to win in a country more conservative and politically diverse than New York City, not to worry. He'll certainly be more conservative than Kommisar Clinton.
Anyway, sorry Skippy. That's the reality in this election. The GOP's stock is WAY down. There aren't many GOP candidates who have a chance to keep the White House out of Hillary's hands in 2008--maybe 3 at most--and all those who can are not hardline conservatives and are names with recognition and ability to connect with voters. The dream candidates of the GOP base won't have name recognition, money or appeal such that they can win in a bad year for Republicans which 2008 is sure to be.
It's either be pragmatic and hope for better next time or enjoy 8 years of Hillary. As for me and my house, I chose to keep another Clinton out of the White House regardless of who I have to vote for.
I like the guy. I just don't think a male President should dress like a female whore.
I have repeatedly explaining the history of "HAIRY LEG SHOWS", on FR, for months on end. How did you miss it?
It isn't "drag"; it's BURLESQUE, in the original meaning of that word.
Do you object to presidents doing comedy routines at the MSM dinners every year? Shouldn't presidents be serious [people and NOT make fun of themselves and others? Same kind of thing; except that Rudy was actually raising money for charity and NOT enteraining journos and their guests....for free.
I am not with Rudy but that is the most persuasive Rudy post I have ever seen.
I'm sorry, but Duncan Hunter is like a Dennis Kucinich. Looks wise and the amount he is pushed to one wing of the political spectrum (however he's not nuts like Kucinich).
Please explain Hunter's pro-big government votes & why he should suddenly become POTUS after 26 years of riding the Congressional bench.
Grow up!
If your asking whether or not I feel it to be inappropriate for the President of the United States to dress up like a woman my answer would be yes.
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