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Saudis Again Cutting Oil Production to Raise Price: WSJ
CBS Marketwatch ^ | Jan 30, 2007 | staff report

Posted on 01/30/2007 7:32:18 AM PST by meg88

Saudi Arabia, which has aggressively shaved its oil output in a battle to shore up prices, will reduce production by another 158,000 barrels per day beginning Thursday and more cuts are on the way, according to a media report.

The Saudi cut is seen as an aggressive move to keep the price of the U.S. benchmark crude above $55 a barrel, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday in its online edition, quoting Roger Diwan, an analyst at PFC Energy, a Washington industry consultancy.

The latest cut means Saudi Arabia will have reduced production by about 1 million barrels per day in the past six months, The Journal said, citing an unnamed senior Saudi oil official.

The reductions are intended to shrink inventories of oil that had ballooned last year as demand growth for petroleum faltered, The Journal reported.

Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter, is the oil cartel's de facto leader and closely watched by markets.

Word of the Saudi move to further trim output comes as traders are trying to learn if OPEC is going to cut production in line with its announced plans, the Journal said, noting OPEC's members often produce more than they have pledged.

Saudi Arabia's reduction is nearly double the total cuts it agreed to make under two output accords hammered out at OPEC at meetings in October and December, The Journal said.

The 10 OPEC members that committed to the cuts were producing about 27.5 million barrels a day in September, the Journal said, and if the agreed-upon cuts are fully implemented, output would drop to 25.8 million barrels a day in a global oil market of about 85 million barrels a day.

The U.S. benchmark crude closed $1.41 a barrel lower to $54.01 Monday on the New York Mercantile Exchange

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1 posted on 01/30/2007 7:32:21 AM PST by meg88
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To: meg88

Translation: Bush has leaned on the Saudis hard enough to get them to screw Iran.


2 posted on 01/30/2007 7:34:08 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Forgot to say: Not.


3 posted on 01/30/2007 7:34:34 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: 3AngelaD

LOL


4 posted on 01/30/2007 7:35:24 AM PST by meg88
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To: 3AngelaD

What kind of "leaning" on the Sudis would you like?


5 posted on 01/30/2007 7:35:32 AM PST by rhombus
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To: meg88

We knew this.


6 posted on 01/30/2007 7:36:42 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: 3AngelaD

How does increasing the price of crude 'screw Iran'?

The dropping oil prices have hurt Iran, increasing them now would seem to help Iran.


7 posted on 01/30/2007 7:38:31 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: 3AngelaD

How does this screw Iran? It seems it screws Americans. However, I am pretty ticked at Bush with his new socialist healthcare tax plan...I thought I was voting for a conservative Republican.


8 posted on 01/30/2007 7:38:41 AM PST by nyconse
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To: meg88

SARCASM---- Bush's fault.


9 posted on 01/30/2007 7:41:04 AM PST by TheRobb7 (Border security is NOT Racism...it's PATRIOTISM.)
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To: penelopesire

I don't see how this screw Iran either. I agree with you. My husband has been transferred to Wisconsin; we will go in the summer. He say many cars there run on some form of ethonol. Lets shore up our production and tell Saudi Arabia we are cutting...buying their overpriced crap. Tell them to um go pound sand. The only thing that makes these crazies important is their oil.


10 posted on 01/30/2007 7:41:51 AM PST by nyconse
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To: nyconse
Lets shore up our production and tell Saudi Arabia we are cutting...buying their overpriced crap.

It seems like every time we do this, Opec cuts their prices and makes our own domestic production unprofitable. Now if you are supporting some sort of protectionism for domestic oil interests that's fine. However, usually when prices increase, we punish American companies because someone has to take the blame.

11 posted on 01/30/2007 7:45:58 AM PST by rhombus
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To: meg88
We don't buy oil from Iran to begin with.

I doubt very much that the administration is happy with this news. More likely quite annoyed. I SO look forward to the development of Oil Shale, there should be an announcement about it this year some time..... We have HUGE oil reserves here, just a matter of processing it...
12 posted on 01/30/2007 7:46:15 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: meg88

I think the US needs to set up some benchmarks in Iraq:

Every time the price of oil goes up $2 a barrel-- another Sunni neighborhood loses American force oversight.

The Saudis need to wake up and smell the coffee.

We have the Saudis right where we need them. If they want the Shias to rule the middle east, we can arrange that.


13 posted on 01/30/2007 7:49:06 AM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: rhombus; nyconse

"However, usually when prices increase, we punish American companies because someone has to take the blame."

And you can rest assured that with the dems in power now, that will only increase! Ethanol is overated imho. You get poor gas mileage when it is added to gasoline, so you actually end up using more OIL!! LOL

The republicans should have opened up Anwar and off shore drilling while they had the chance. Too late now!


14 posted on 01/30/2007 7:55:35 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire
The republicans should have opened up Anwar and off shore drilling while they had the chance. Too late now!

Does anyone remember how McCain voted?

15 posted on 01/30/2007 8:00:49 AM PST by rhombus
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To: meg88

Our friends the Saudis.


16 posted on 01/30/2007 8:17:27 AM PST by glorgau
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To: penelopesire

See post 3. ;)


17 posted on 01/30/2007 8:23:49 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: nyconse

You didn't read my second post. To sum up, the Saudis are not being helpful. Surprise. Iran has huge oil reserves, but they have relatively little refining capacity, and have to buy nearly half of their refined products, gasoline, from the rest of the world. Lowering the price of crude would have reduced their revenues, but they still would have been buying (more expensive) gasoline on the world market. According to Business Week: "Iran's looming crisis is the result of years of neglect and underinvestment. As in other oil-producing countries such as Venezuela and Mexico, the government treats the oil industry as a cash cow, milking its revenues for social programs. It allocates only $3 billion a year for investment, less than a third of what's needed to get production growing again.

Compounding the pressure are policies that encourage profligate energy use. Gasoline prices are set at 35 cents a gallon, which has helped fuel 10%-plus annual growth in consumption, PFC Energy figures. The national thirst for gasoline far outstrips domestic refining capacity, so Iran will import about $5 billion in gasoline this year, or about 40% of its needs. The government is planning a $16 billion refinery building program to boost capacity by 60%. But unless Iran raises fuel prices, the new plants will just mean more consumption.

An oil squeeze could spell trouble for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The populist leader has won backing at home through generous handouts. Ahmadinejad has ratcheted up public spending this year by 21%, to $213 billion, on everything from aid to rural areas to housing loans for newlyweds. He has also promised some $16 billion in outlays from a special $30 billion fund set up to tide Iranians through future hard times. Without a healthy oil sector, Iran's social spending could bust the national budget--and reignite inflation.

Iran badly needs fresh foreign investment to shore up the oil industry. Tehran has attracted some $20 billion in funding for oil and gas projects since 1995 from overseas companies including Royal Dutch/Shell Group (RD ), France's Total (TOT ), and Norway's Statoil. But new investment has largely dried up in recent years because of lingering worries about the risk of war with the U.S. and disenchantment with Iran's tightfisted terms. Outsiders are offered contracts only to drill wells--rather than operate fields--and get just a small share of profits from output. For instance, Italian oil giant ENI (ENI ), a fixture in Iran since 1957, produces about 35,000 barrels per day but doesn't expect to get any bigger...


18 posted on 01/30/2007 8:29:05 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: meg88; CPT Clay

They own it. They can do what they want with it.

This proves:

1. The oil market is not a free market.

2. The US national security depends on our getting unhooked from Middle East oil. We need to go Coal Liquefaction and Nuclear. Now!


19 posted on 01/30/2007 8:37:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: rhombus

Does anyone remember how McCain voted?

From what I recall, he was not in favor of the 'nuke' option to block the dem filibuster on Anwar, so the measure went down in flames!

How much do you want to bet that the first time we try to filibuster a dem measure that Reid pulls out the so called 'nuke option'?


20 posted on 01/30/2007 8:39:45 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: RobRoy

Thanks for the link(grin). Makes better sense now.


21 posted on 01/30/2007 8:40:53 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: 3AngelaD
Iran badly needs fresh foreign investment to shore up the oil industry.

Invest in my country or I tell you I will blow you UP!

22 posted on 01/30/2007 8:42:54 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: penelopesire; rhombus; nyconse; thackney; Red Badger; Uncledave
Several things must happen in order to tell Mr. Chavez, Iran and the Saudi's to pound sand:

In order for our economy to grow we must "grow" supplies of energy.
"Baseline" power production is best served by Nuclear and Coal. Newer power-plants are very efficient and clean. Even France has it right on nuclear power. I hate to admit it but their Turn key approach to generators is very wise. All nukes are the same, if there is a problem in one reactor all reactors are checked for the same issue.

Natural Gas is ideal for "peeker" plants.

Fuel for transportation:
The diesel engine is our way out. New engines are quiet and powerful. the New Low Sulfur diesel is clean. Very little pollution. The Fischer-Trospch method of converting coal into diesel fuel along with around half of our personal autos switched to diesel engines and we would be well on our way to telling third world dictators to shove it.

Finally, The obvious choice's of drilling ANWR, Otero mesa and elsewhere along with new oil shale technology on the western slope and we can indeed tell them to Pound SAND!!!

Ethanol is a Farce brought on by Midwest Senators and Congressmen and the Archer-Daniels Midland corporation along with millions of useful idiots.

Thanks

Rant Off
23 posted on 01/30/2007 8:43:39 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: penelopesire

And the pubs will say "See, they're the ones that did it, we didn't do it because we're better people than them", but in the end the rats will have won again.

Course it won't be called the "nuclear option" or even the "patriot option" or whatever the pubs were calling it. It will probably be described as "a senate rules change relating to a certain parliamentary maneuver."


24 posted on 01/30/2007 8:45:53 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: penelopesire
How much do you want to bet that the first time we try to filibuster a dem measure that Reid pulls out the so called 'nuke option'?

No way will I take that bet. It's a certainty. Of course our fair and balanced news media will tell the public it was necessary because of obstruction on the part of the Republican minority.

25 posted on 01/30/2007 8:47:23 AM PST by rhombus
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To: CPT Clay

Archer-Daniels Midland is also getting into BioDiesel as well. They seem to be hedgeing their bets, on the ethanol-biodiesel coin.........


26 posted on 01/30/2007 8:47:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Danae
We don't buy oil from Iran to begin with.

Oil is a global commodity. It doesn't matter who we buy oil from.

27 posted on 01/30/2007 8:48:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: ichabod1

"It will probably be described as "a senate rules change relating to a certain parliamentary maneuver."

You are probably right. It's maddening!


28 posted on 01/30/2007 8:50:45 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: meg88

But I thought the Iraq war was about bringing cheap oil to the American consumer... darn,, another wacko left theory down the crapper.


29 posted on 01/30/2007 8:52:29 AM PST by Ancient Drive
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To: CPT Clay

It was an educational 'rant'! Thought you might be interested in this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776135/posts


30 posted on 01/30/2007 8:55:36 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: glorgau
The Saudis have been helpful in the past. They have increased production beyond OPEC limits to keep oil prices down. They are the one of the very few countries in the world that has a "cushion" when it comes to production. They can produce 8 to 10 million bbls a day, with around 8 million being their limit under OPEC.

In 2003, the Persian Gulf countries (Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates) produced about 27% of the world's oil, while holding 57% (715 billion barrels) of the world's crude oil reserves. Besides oil, the Persian Gulf region also is important because it contains huge reserves (2,462 Tcf) of natural gas, with Iran, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates holding the world's second, third, fourth, and fifth-largest reserves (behind Russia), respectively.

31 posted on 01/30/2007 9:01:38 AM PST by kabar
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To: nyconse
You mean his Union busting health care proposal?
32 posted on 01/30/2007 9:13:44 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: nyconse
I thought I was voting for a conservative Republican.

What were you thinking man? Bush nor his daddy has EVER been "conservatives." The last "conservative" elected President was Ronald Reagan. The Bushes are globalists and as such Marxists. Like the Christian religion there are many different sects of Marxism and the Bushes fall into the more "moderate" wing. I have been forced to vote for the Bushes every time they've run because the alternative is voting for a fanatical Marxist and I would rather slow down the decline of our nation by keeping the fanatical moonbats out of the White House for as long as possible. But I am becoming tired of that strategy which is one reason I am supporting Tom Tancredo for President. The man is a true conservative. The problem we have is so many of you out there claim to be conservative but you will vote for another Bush when you cast your ballots for McCain, Giuliani, Mitt or some other schmuch instead of supporting the candidate in the primary that best supports what you all claim your values are. If we don't put Tancredo or Hunter into office in '08 this nation can put is head between it's legs and kiss it's ass good-bye in my opinion.

TOM TANCREDO '08

JMHO

33 posted on 01/30/2007 9:14:25 AM PST by EndWelfareToday (Live free and keep what you earn. - Tancredo '08)
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To: penelopesire

Thanks


34 posted on 01/30/2007 9:23:37 AM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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To: meg88

Energy independence now.


35 posted on 01/30/2007 9:24:53 AM PST by mysterio
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To: meg88

Damn them all. Now we see the true reason why our oil prices are so high to begin. They want to steal from us to fund their expansions overseas.


36 posted on 01/30/2007 9:28:33 AM PST by pctech
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To: 3AngelaD

The Saudis have built tremendous overcapacity for the explicit purpose of being able to reduce or increase production as they see fit, for three purposes:
1. To keep prices high enough that they maximize revenue & profit.
2. To keep prices low enough that they keep competition (higher-cost Russian, Mexican, etc oil; and alternative fuels, nuclear, etc) away & guarantee a long-lived market for their amazingly valuable reserves.
3. As a source of geopolitical power.

Oil tends to have a $50+/barrel war-time priceband, and a $25+/barrel peacetime priceband, although if the Saudis & OPEC lost control of production it could be as low as $20 and under.

The Saudis have a vested interest in keeping Iran in check right now. Given Irans crude exports and refined imports, I'm not sure what hurts or helps Iran more, other than complete embargoes on either. And it doesn't matter which country buys - even if the US buys from Norway, as long as anyone else buys from Iran & Saudi, it is the functional equivalent as buying directly from them. Except for some basic quality differences, crude is almost as fungible as money.

So what does this Saudi move mean? Pure profit-taking? The Saudis think too long-term for that. I assume they are making the market profitable enough for their competitors to boost up production... and quietly telling their "friends" that if / when things get hot, they will also pick up production again, to ensure there's enough jet fuel, etc in the market to do the job.


37 posted on 01/30/2007 9:35:02 AM PST by sanchmo (If we wish to learn what was going on in Europe in 1938, just look around - V.D. Hanson)
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To: pctech

Dirty rotten Chavez enablers


38 posted on 01/30/2007 9:35:35 AM PST by DAC21
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To: meg88
Finally took months for gas below $2 here in fayetteville nc. Now I see oil is up 2.19 a barrel today which means the price of gas will go up on the same day. Even though that oil is still in the ground.

Sigh.

39 posted on 01/30/2007 10:01:27 AM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: 3AngelaD
That's why government owned oil companies are famous for being inefficient in the OPEC countries.

In the West, the "evil oil companies" reinvests their profits into oil production with the goal of selling more oil long-term efficiently.

Let's hope we can increase production in shale oil in North America and build more nuclear plants so we can tell the Arabs to "shove it".

40 posted on 01/30/2007 10:07:19 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: meg88

The double-talking Saudi's have allegedly lined their oil infrastructure with explosives so they can destroy everything if they are toppled. I bet we can dig new wells and have the oil back on line in under 36 months.


41 posted on 01/30/2007 10:18:28 AM PST by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.)
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To: mysterio
Energy independence now.

Nationalize our oil industry, flood the market with our own oil or quit buying? I believe those are our choices to independently drive down prices.

42 posted on 01/30/2007 10:22:49 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
I doubt China and India's demand will keep the price propped up like it is if we replace oil with something else.

We should have done this in the 70s. This is our chance to correct that mistake.
43 posted on 01/30/2007 10:26:32 AM PST by mysterio
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To: nyconse
I thought I was voting for a conservative Republican.

Then you weren't paying attention.
44 posted on 01/30/2007 10:43:52 AM PST by Terpfen (Got a problem? It's now Pelosi's fault!)
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To: meg88

"aggressively shaved'

When you get an oxymoron six words in,
set your beebers to stune.


45 posted on 01/30/2007 10:45:20 AM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: meg88

This sounds like a 180 to what was said two days ago.


"Saudi Officials Seek to Temper the Price of Oil"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775043/posts


46 posted on 01/30/2007 10:47:04 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: kabar
They have increased production beyond OPEC limits to keep oil prices down.

When have they done that? The production ceilings and production data are available here.

47 posted on 01/30/2007 10:54:55 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: BulletBobCo

No, that is just the difference between the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times.


48 posted on 01/30/2007 10:58:04 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: penelopesire

Well if they can describe delivering a baby and then sticking a pair of scissors through the back of its neck as "a certain type of late-term abortion", then I have no doubt the can and will spin the nukular option.


49 posted on 01/30/2007 11:00:54 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: BulletBobCo

You mean the Saudis are not doing what they said? (sarcasam button off)


50 posted on 01/30/2007 11:03:29 AM PST by meg88
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