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Coming suicide epidemic in China as population collapses
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | January 26, 2007 | by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 01/26/2007 8:42:42 PM PST by aculeus

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To: chopperman
Excessive male population is solved by war.

Muslim polygamy promotes war because you are left with lots of men with no sex partners, poor possibility of getting wives, so they go to war for booty and the enemy's women

41 posted on 01/27/2007 12:29:23 AM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: aculeus; All
In the end, there will be a “suicide epidemic”

"In 2000, I went to a village. As I passed a narrow lane, I heard a child shouting, "Mama, come down; mama, come down." When I went into the house, I saw the child’s mother had hanged herself. The little child did not know his mother had already died; he was pulling her foot and kept calling his mother to come down from where she was. The mother found out she was HIV-positive not long before; her husband had previously died of AIDS and they have wasted all their money to fake doctors. This kind of story is everywhere in all the AIDS villages in Henan province."

- Gao Yaojie

42 posted on 01/27/2007 4:31:09 AM PST by wideminded
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To: Rosie405
Another thing they could do would be to shut down some of the adoption agencies that are sending so many of the unwanted little girl babies out to American families.

A family in our church went to China and adopted one of those little girls.

43 posted on 01/27/2007 4:58:22 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: aculeus

Evans-Pritchard is correct. "Successful" population control programs, such as China's one-child policy, lead to an aging of the population. All these zero population zealots who have been warning the world about the so-called population explosion are really promoting a kind of demographic suicide. Nations that refuse to accept children are doomed.

The sad thing is that all of this population control madness has been forced on the Chinese people. Women who become pregnant a second time are forced to undergo abortions. Population officials in towns and villages monitor women's menstrual cycles. What a great loss of personal freedom. Now the whole concept of the extended family is dying out in China. Young people don't have brothers and sisters. All in the name of population control.

China is a classic example of how a "right" to practice birth control and to choose abortion has been turned into a state-imposed duty.



44 posted on 01/27/2007 5:11:54 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: aculeus

"America's space monopoly?" I thought the Russians had more satellites in orbit, and most of them were for military purposes. What's more, even before the Columbia tragedy, they were able to get a Soyuz spacecraft off the ground more often than we could launch a space shuttle.


45 posted on 01/27/2007 5:22:02 AM PST by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: RedStateRocker

No. "This, too, shall pass."


46 posted on 01/27/2007 5:54:48 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Berosus
I thought the Russians had more satellites in orbit, and most of them were for military purposes.

According to this article, Russia has only 96 total satellites of which 40 are purely military and 18 are dual use. They once had 186 satellites. Many of their remaining satellites are beyond their designed life span.

I'm guessing that we have many times this number of satellites. IIRC the GPS system alone has 24 satellites. The article includes the following quote from a Russian general: “Only one Russian satellite is currently over the continental United States compared to 12 or 13 U.S. spy satellites, which are constantly monitoring Russia,”

47 posted on 01/27/2007 6:03:38 AM PST by wideminded
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To: aculeus

Communism carries within itself the seeds of its own destruction and that of the society in which it resides.


48 posted on 01/27/2007 6:09:27 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is demented)
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To: aculeus
The killing of baby girls in Eastern culture is a throwback to a long distant past started in India by the Brahmins.
The Hindus carried out girl baby killings to an extreme in their past. So much so that parts of India had a 10:1 ratio of men to women. This caused incredible fighting between the men for the few women available.
If anyone would like to check it out, here's some links to a quite long book (Genocide of Women in Hinduism by Sita Agarwal) describing it:
http://www.geocities.com/realitywithbite/hindu.htm
http://www.womensweb.ca/k2news/example1.php?Action=Full&NewsID=53
49 posted on 01/27/2007 6:09:28 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: aculeus

Sounds a lot similar to all the global warming fear mongering I hear. It assumes current trends will continue forever. More boys than girls in China? Soon girls will become more valuable, families will begin having more girls, etc.

Chinese development will continue. Our best bet is to help and encourage it to continue in positive humanistic fashion.


50 posted on 01/27/2007 6:16:51 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Zhang Fei
Don't bet on it. Davos is an annual event where transnational elites get together to talk about global warming and other neo-Malthusian subjects. Think of it as a giant networking event dressed up as an exercise in deep thought. Any time a Davos meeting comes up with a "deep thought", you can bet that the precise opposite conclusion is true.

Both the poster (me) and, I'm sure, the postee (Evans-Pritchard) don't need any instruction on what Davos is ... and isn't.

But perhaps you were directing your comments at "all". ;-)

51 posted on 01/27/2007 7:13:37 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Zhang Fei
I'm not bashing "eastern" culture as you call it, just making a small observation about the last few centuries. I'm well aware of the Chinese contributions throughout history.:)

Every world power has risen and fallen throughout history. I think everyone understands that little factoid, the only question is the duration of their supremacy.

Thanks for the window into your thought processes, btw, lol.
52 posted on 01/27/2007 7:16:27 AM PST by khnyny
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To: Zhang Fei
[Don't be deluded by the illusion that everything good in the world originated in the West. That is not only absurd on its face - it is false.]

I didn't say that, actually.

I don't believe I am "missing the point" as you call it. You're making judgments about my views without having all the necessary information, and that's always a mistake.

You make some very good points and I agree with you, if an economy wants to stay on top, then they better make sure they figure out how to continually build a better mouse trap. IMHO, "eastern" culture does not foster the kind of creativity and independence necessary for innovation. That's just an opinion. The US has, in it's relatively short history, a tradition of pioneers. IMHO, pioneers have been drawn to this country and this culture, and hopefully, that tradition will continue. I don't think you can overestimate the power of freedom to pursue dreams.
53 posted on 01/27/2007 7:37:55 AM PST by khnyny
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To: Zhang Fei

[But the Chinese have repeatedly questioned the sincerity of these apologies, typically linking the degree of sincerity to Japan's willingness to send more monetary reparations to China. Japan has spent tens of billions of dollars in direct and indirect reparations. But China has never acknowledged them as sincere enough.]

LOL.


54 posted on 01/27/2007 7:43:06 AM PST by khnyny
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To: aculeus

I can hardly wait for 2080 when we can see the aftermath.....

...what?....I'm taking my vitamins!

Me thinks there will be several world catastrophies before China's population management problem comes home to roost.


55 posted on 01/27/2007 7:44:55 AM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: steadfastconservative
Evans-Pritchard is correct. "Successful" population control programs, such as China's one-child policy, lead to an aging of the population. All these zero population zealots who have been warning the world about the so-called population explosion are really promoting a kind of demographic suicide. Nations that refuse to accept children are doomed. The sad thing is that all of this population control madness has been forced on the Chinese people. Women who become pregnant a second time are forced to undergo abortions. Population officials in towns and villages monitor women's menstrual cycles. What a great loss of personal freedom. Now the whole concept of the extended family is dying out in China. Young people don't have brothers and sisters. All in the name of population control. China is a classic example of how a "right" to practice birth control and to choose abortion has been turned into a state-imposed duty.

The party has decided that rapid increases in population leads to violent revolt. It is far easier to kill the babies before they are born, than to fight the adults once they have grown up. That's all there is to it.

56 posted on 01/27/2007 8:41:58 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: BuffaloJack
The Hindus carried out girl baby killings to an extreme in their past. So much so that parts of India had a 10:1 ratio of men to women.

If this was true, each remaining woman would have to have an average of at least 20 children just to maintain the population.

57 posted on 01/27/2007 8:56:26 AM PST by wideminded
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To: zook

That's the plan. Seems to be working so far.


58 posted on 01/27/2007 9:01:06 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: chopperman

Sorry to say you are probably right.


59 posted on 01/27/2007 9:02:25 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Strategerist

"The Chinese have been steadily REDUCING their total military troop strength for many years now"

Source, please?
Thanks


60 posted on 01/27/2007 9:04:03 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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