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New Rasmussen Poll: Poll: Giuliani 30% McCain 22%
Rasmussen ^ | 1/23/07

Posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:11 AM PST by areafiftyone

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll shows that former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) continues to hold an eight-point lead over Senator John McCain (R) in the race for the Republican nomination. Giuliani now earns 30% of the vote, up from 28% a week ago. John McCain (R) has support from 22% while former House Speaker Newt Gingrich remains in third at 12%.

Former Massachusetts Mitt Romney is back in double digits at 10%. Another former Governor Mike Huckabee registers just 2% as does Senator Sam Brownback. Senator Chuck Hagel registers support from 1% of GOP voters.

While McCain continues to hold a solid second place in this polling, a separate survey shows he has lost ground in general election match-ups. In fact, for the first time in any Rasmussen Reports polling, McCain has fallen behind a Democratic competitor, trailing both Illinois Senator Barack Obama and former North Carolina Senator John Edwards. McCain may be hampered by the situation in Iraq (considered the most important issue by voters). Most Americans believe we should be reducing the number of U.S. troops fighting in that country while McCain supports the President’s call for more troops.

Giuliani continues to lead all Democrats--see a summary of these match-ups along with favorability ratings and perceptions of the candidates’ ideology. A summary is also provided for Democratic contenders.  

While Giuliani has consistently led in polls of potential GOP primary voters, there is an intense debate among political observers as to whether the former Mayor of New York can actually win the nomination. Those who say Giuliani cannot win point to his views on key social issues and his own lifestyle which includes multiple marriages and divorces. Others say that Giuliani’s leadership quotient and charisma will overcome those points for Republicans fearful of seeing a Democrat in the White House.


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1 posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:12 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((((RUDY POLL PING)))))


2 posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:48 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

I prefer Rudy over McCain but Romney over all.


3 posted on 01/23/2007 7:06:18 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Actually if you read the poll Romney is doing much better. I bet you in about 6 months Romney will be 2 and McCain will drop down to 4th!


4 posted on 01/23/2007 7:07:33 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone
Another poll where Newt is in third, leading Romney.

Not bad for a guy who isn't even running.

5 posted on 01/23/2007 7:08:15 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: areafiftyone
McCain may be hampered by the situation in Iraq (considered the most important issue by voters). Most Americans believe we should be reducing the number of U.S. troops fighting in that country while McCain supports the President’s call for more troops.

What's Rudy's position on the surge?

6 posted on 01/23/2007 7:08:41 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: areafiftyone
I see Rudy on top but.........

Where is Duncan Hunter?


I guess he is pulling LESS then 1%
7 posted on 01/23/2007 7:09:52 AM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: areafiftyone

Am I alone in thinking I want nothing to do with either one of them? Has the GOP sunk to such a low, that they are considered the front runners by the media?


8 posted on 01/23/2007 7:10:06 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: frogjerk
Rudy Supports The Troop Increase

“Success or failure in Iraq is not a matter of partisan politics but a matter of national security. All Americans should be hoping, praying and offering constructive advice for the success of our troops in Iraq and for those Iraqis seeking to create a stable and decent government. In that spirit, I support the President’s increase in troops. Even more importantly – I support the change in strategy – the focus on security and the emphasis on a political and economic solution as being even more important than a military solution.

I would add to it a heavy emphasis on measuring results and having the flexibility of adapting our strategy to make certain we restore security as quickly as possible.

We must not wait for a year or more to measure the success of our strategy but must develop a system to do so monthly weekly even daily so we give our troops the necessary support to succeed.”

9 posted on 01/23/2007 7:13:29 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

McCain would be a disaster as the GOP nominee.

Guliani won't be much better. With his recent surge, it is a call for concern.

Guliani, like it or not, folded rather than face Hillary for the NY Senate. [Why?]

It appears she will be the Dem candidate in 08.

If Guliani is the GOP nominee, and if he does have to face Hillary for the White House, will Rudy fold again?

[If you say 'no', then ask yourself, 'why did he fold in NY?' Postrate cancer? Curious. John Kerry had surgery for the same condition just months before he ran for the White House. It didn't seem to interfere with Kerry's run.]


10 posted on 01/23/2007 7:16:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: af_vet_rr

Not exactly my first and second choice either!

Unfortunately, the process is now such that any potential candidate must spend a couple of years building up money and support. Not sure if this is directly related to CFR or just the way things have evolved. I suppose it is still possible for a 'dark horse' candidate to come in and knock everyone's socks off but it would just about take a miracle for someone who has not started working on their candidacy to do that now.


11 posted on 01/23/2007 7:16:28 AM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: areafiftyone

Ill bet once more tapes surface of Rommney he will be running as a Democrat!


12 posted on 01/23/2007 7:17:11 AM PST by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Blackirish

Don't believe it. Hunter was obviously left out of the survey.

This is from a few days ago: http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/20070116/pl_cq_politics/longshothuntertoutswininarizonastrawpollasmccainrunsfourth

Right now, the Rassmussen is really worthless other than to indicate who has the best name recognition.


13 posted on 01/23/2007 7:17:21 AM PST by proudpapa (Forget Rudy McRomney it's Duncan Hunter in '08!)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Be afraid Rudy haters....be very afraid! lol.


14 posted on 01/23/2007 7:17:48 AM PST by zarf
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To: Blackirish
I guess he is pulling LESS then 1%

I doubt more than 1% of the country has HEARD of Duncan Hunter.

15 posted on 01/23/2007 7:18:04 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: proudpapa; Blackirish

I don't think so. In ever poll so far Hunter has been polling either 1% or 0%.


16 posted on 01/23/2007 7:19:00 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: proudpapa
Right now, the Rassmussen is really worthless other than to indicate who has the best name recognition.

That's all these polls are about right now--name recognition. As such, they're meaningless. Where they are most damaging is that they might convince some big-money people to put their cash behind a sure loser like Rudy early on.
17 posted on 01/23/2007 7:19:41 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: zarf

I love Rudy. If McCain doesn't get the nomination,I hope that Rudy will. He'll make a fine president and whomp Hillary's butt.


18 posted on 01/23/2007 7:20:30 AM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (It's like a plantation - and you know what I mean!)
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To: frogjerk
What's Rudy's position on the surge?

IIRC, he was the first of the potential candidates to come out in full support of the Prez and the surge.

19 posted on 01/23/2007 7:20:37 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Dittos.


20 posted on 01/23/2007 7:21:03 AM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: TomGuy
Guliani, like it or not, folded rather than face Hillary for the NY Senate. [Why?]

Prostate cancer.

21 posted on 01/23/2007 7:22:20 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
I prefer Rudy over McCain but Romney over all.

Me too. I am unaware of Rudy or Romney being in outright violation of the oath to uphold the Consitution.

22 posted on 01/23/2007 7:24:44 AM PST by groanup (Limited government is the answer. Now, what's the question?)
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To: areafiftyone

Newt Gingrich/Ben Stein '08


23 posted on 01/23/2007 7:25:59 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Dark Skies

You missed the last paragraph of my previous comment.

Postrate cancer didn't seem to deter John Kerry's run for the White House.


24 posted on 01/23/2007 7:26:22 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: B Knotts
Newt is straight forward, I am not sure about Romney, I know very little about him buy I like what I hear, Rudy, double no. Mclimp and Lindsey Graham no, Graham has his nose stuck up into a certain part of the body of McLimp, Newt possibly and then there is Romney leaning that way.
25 posted on 01/23/2007 7:27:28 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: TomGuy
[If you say 'no', then ask yourself, 'why did he fold in NY?' Postrate cancer?

OH PULEEEZ! Rudy's father died of Prostrate cancer. Rudy caught his and opted for implantation of radioactive "seeds" in the prostate. Before the procedure, Giuliani was treated for four months with Lupron, a drug that blocks the production of testosterone, the male hormone that prostate cancer cells thrive on.

The "seed" treatment was followed by external radiation.

Giuliani said he chose double radiation over surgery because the expected side effects of impotence and incontinence "would be less, and more manageable. I had side effects for some time, but now my health is fine, and the side effects are gone."

Everyone is different and chooses different treatments. Would you have liked him to campaign dragging and IV along with him?

26 posted on 01/23/2007 7:28:09 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

The bad news just keeps coming. With any of the top three or four mentioned, we'll be lucky to get 40% of the popular vote.


27 posted on 01/23/2007 7:28:50 AM PST by jammer
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To: zarf

I do fear that Rino Rudy will win the nomination. It will almost certainly mean a rat win. He is unelectable rino liberal.


28 posted on 01/23/2007 7:30:45 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Antoninus

A quick glance at the primary/caucus schedule (still subject to change) shows that the primaries begin on Jan. 22 and effectively end on Feb. 5 with possibly 15 states having primaries on that date.

Things have gotten so front-loaded it's much, much harder than ever for some darkhorse to build a groundswell of support - money going in before the primaries is more important than ever.

Until I looked at the sched, I was sort of vaguely aware of this, but it really hits you once you look.

Frankly, it's hard to even make a case for a guy like Romney being able to make it vs. McCain/Giuliani in that environment - much less tha cabal of either already hated (Gingrich) or zero name recognition "True Conservative" faves here.


29 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:06 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: areafiftyone
Blah blah blah.

NO northeastern inner-city liberal RINOs need apply.

Too bad RINO-rudy's relatives don't grow weary of posting this tripe.

30 posted on 01/23/2007 7:31:54 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: jammer
The bad news just keeps coming. With any of the top three or four mentioned, we'll be lucky to get 40% of the popular vote.

In case you haven't noticed, Free Republic and the country as a whole are two different electorates.

31 posted on 01/23/2007 7:32:26 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Hydroshock
I do fear that Rino Rudy will win the nomination. It will almost certainly mean a rat win. He is unelectable rino liberal.

If Rudy can win the nomination (as you postulate), then he is *far* from unelectable in the General.

32 posted on 01/23/2007 7:32:28 AM PST by Wormwood (Your Friendly Neighborhood Moderate)
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To: gulfcoast6

Yep...that's pretty much where I am on the candidates. Some of the second-tier guys are OK if they can get some traction.


33 posted on 01/23/2007 7:32:40 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Strategerist

I noticed. What's your point? We'll be lucky to get 30%?


34 posted on 01/23/2007 7:33:24 AM PST by jammer
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To: Wormwood

A pro gay, pro illegal, pro abortion, and anti gun liberal like Rino Rudy will swell the ranks of third party voters or just get many conservatives and evangelicals to stay home.


35 posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:20 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Strategerist

McCain, although I dislike him, could probably win the general election. Giuliani...no way. Romney...maybe.


36 posted on 01/23/2007 7:35:55 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: jammer
I noticed. What's your point? We'll be lucky to get 30%?

Anyone outside the trio of McCain/Romney/Giuliani has precisely zero chance of winning the general election, rather than the reverse.

At least frame the debate in a rational way.

37 posted on 01/23/2007 7:36:03 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist
My point was that anyone inside the trio of McCain/Romney/Giuliani has precisely zero chance of winning. It's going to be a long eight years.
38 posted on 01/23/2007 7:39:49 AM PST by jammer
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To: TomGuy
Oops. Sorry.

But the fact that they both had prostate cancer and one chose to run and another didn't is to overlook the types of treatment chosen and the timing. I don't know all the details but I do know that Kerry had surgery and Giuliani had hormone therapy and a treatment with radiation in implanted pellet form and 25 external radiation treatments over a five-week period.

Source for Giuliani's treatment

39 posted on 01/23/2007 7:40:36 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: areafiftyone
Looking at these candidates (and squinting in disgust, through a crack between my fingers, at the Dem candidates), I feel even more fortunate to have this guy as my PM.

Ron Paul sounds good on everything except his stance on defense...the rest are more hole than boat. Is it folly to still hope for a candidate in the mold of Reagan or Goldwater? Sure, one runs into the problem of letting perfect become the enemy of good enough...but damn.

40 posted on 01/23/2007 7:41:14 AM PST by M203M4
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To: jammer
My point was that anyone inside the trio of McCain/Romney/Giuliani has precisely zero chance of winning. It's going to be a long eight years.

Well, you're living in a fantasy world devoid of contact with people who don't share your own political views.

There's no sea of 20 million social con voters who sit out EVERY election until they get a candidate that PRECISELY matches all of their views and then they finally come out to vote.

41 posted on 01/23/2007 7:41:39 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: areafiftyone

A McCain for President yard sign will NEVER cast it's shadow on my front lawn.

As for Rudy he has what it takes to strike fear in the democrat front runners - but I'm not jumping on his band wagon just yet.


42 posted on 01/23/2007 7:42:20 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Dark Skies

I saw an article with dates last year. I didn't keep the link.

According to it, Rudy dropped out of the race in the early spring, but didn't actually undergo treatment until the late summer, early fall.

That is a disparity that could have significance, especially if the Clinton camp has a bombshell they can explode after the Conventions and before the election.

Politics is dirty, after all. Leave no stone unturned or it could swift boat a candidate.


43 posted on 01/23/2007 7:52:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: areafiftyone

One thing I think many miss about Rudy.

He will carry a lot of Democrat votes - just like Reagan did.

His appeal is plain talk (not sound bites), he can speak without a script, his mastery of issues, and he is a leader.

Right now - a lot of people react to what they hear - the real test will come when these folks have to get up on stage and talk to all of us - and the media.


44 posted on 01/23/2007 7:54:01 AM PST by Jake The Goose
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To: Dark Skies
My point is this:

The GOP better know all the skeltons in the closet of whomever they nominate, because, for certain, the Clinton machine will.
45 posted on 01/23/2007 7:56:01 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
According to it, Rudy dropped out of the race in the early spring, but didn't actually undergo treatment until the late summer, early fall.

IMO that wouldn't have much of an effect on Rudy's race even if it were somehow injected into the campaign as a negative.

As for Rudy being able to handle the toughness of politics, any person that can take on the mob (as a prosecutor) and win can certainly handle Hillary.

46 posted on 01/23/2007 7:59:31 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: TomGuy

I hear ya.


47 posted on 01/23/2007 7:59:57 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: areafiftyone

Rudy has the intellect to slice and dice anyone he will come up against in a debate.


48 posted on 01/23/2007 8:04:01 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Rudy has the intellect to slice and dice anyone he will come up against in a debate.

And the sense of humor to appear likeable while doing it. Hillary will look like a wooden indian next to him.

49 posted on 01/23/2007 8:05:40 AM PST by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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To: TomGuy
The GOP better know all the skeltons in the closet of whomever they nominate, because, for certain, the Clinton machine will.
 
I think Rudy has some serious skeleton issues, which why of all the candidates who have "exploratory committees" to consider running fro president I think he is the only one who really hasn't decided yet. (Newt by the way will never run and knows it - look for Newt to endorse Romney later in the year - you read it hear first.)
    But America may be beyond the skeleton age. I am not sure there is any scandalous thing a man can have done that will keep him from winning an election anymore. The public is:
A) More forgiving  
B) Less moral themselves  
C) Cynical and skeptical of all negative politics
Unless there is literally a dead body that comes forward I don't think Rudy would be hurt long term by his skeletons. The same is true for McCain, Richardson, and Hillary who all have the same sorts of problems. I may sell a lot of t-shirts about the scandals, the Free Republic and Democrat Underground may buzz themselves to death, but the American Sheeple don't care.
 
 

50 posted on 01/23/2007 8:09:13 AM PST by azcap
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