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After Castro: What Was Once Theirs
The New York Times ^ | january 21, 2007 | ANTHONY DePALMA

Posted on 01/21/2007 9:57:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

......Several public opinion polls and surveys of Cuban-Americans conducted recently in South Florida and North Jersey show that a declining percentage of the diaspora still dreams of reclaiming houses. This is especially true among the younger generation, whose members never lived in Cuba.

Still, some exiles did sneak out deeds and have fished them out of strongboxes since Fidel became sick. While some undoubtedly will try to reclaim former residences, most want factories, mills and other commercial properties.

“Cubans are not going to fight over the last few crumbling homes,” said Nicolas J. Gutiérrez Jr., a 42-year-old Cuban-American lawyer in Miami who represents many business claimants and for himself seeks the return of two sugar mills, 15 cattle ranches, a food distribution center and more. “Out of the hundreds of people I represent and the thousands I talk to I’ve never met anyone who says he’s going to go back there and kick people out. On a base level, that would be immoral.”

Even so, the fear held by people like Marielena and Francisco matters, having been planted by the regime and nurtured by a controlled press that issues regular warnings about ignoble gusanos ...

This dense cloud of uncertainty has been hanging over Cuba since the summer, when Mr. Castro, who is 80, ceded power to his brother, Raúl, who is 75. For most Cubans, the fear of the future has little to do with who eventually replaces “El Commandante.” Rather, most are consumed by the contradiction between longing for change and fearing that change will come.

All but the most strident military families and pampered government officials hate the current economic system. They have had it with ration books and wartime restrictions — ....But they also can’t imagine life without such subsidized guarantees. .....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Cuba; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castro; cuba; liberation

1 posted on 01/21/2007 9:57:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I'm sure American gaming and hotel intersts would love to swarm in again. Restore Cuba's grand, fading architecture ... keep those restored old American cars and add casinos and hotels.

Jobs for everyone.


2 posted on 01/21/2007 10:00:22 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There's an assumption that Castro's death will end tyranny in Cuba, but that remains to be seen. I can't believe he's the only fascist on the island.


3 posted on 01/21/2007 10:01:15 AM PST by Spok
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No, we have many fascists here in the U.S. that would like to take his place. I saw a book at B&N titled something like "Has Castro Been Good for Cuba?". Talk about brain dead. The liberal mindset is beyond understanding.


4 posted on 01/21/2007 10:04:32 AM PST by brushcop (Men of B-Co 2/69 3ID, do you now feel betrayed after all your efforts & sacrifices in Iraq?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Cubans are not going to fight over the last few crumbling homes,”

The real estate scramble will look like a Playstation riot at Walmart.
5 posted on 01/21/2007 10:13:11 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Unless they have another revolution, I dont see anything changing. Just another ne dictator will step in. Probably with military support from Ortega and Chavez if its needed.


6 posted on 01/21/2007 10:18:32 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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I agree. The author of this article captured the Cuban people well. What everyone must realize is that the majority of Cuban people have never known anything but communism. Fear of the unknown is a highly motivating factor for keeping the staus quo.


7 posted on 01/21/2007 10:26:24 AM PST by sheana
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My father who is an American citizen now as well as my mother, says that the attitude has changed in regards to the reclaiming lands. The stories of land claims is believed to be propaganda by Cuba. Most of his friends all agree that too much time has passed and that all they want now is FREE elections. They also don't see themselves kicking out whole families from houses that they once owned, when the family currently living there has been there for over 30 years. If Castro dies, he will pass it on to Raul. Raul is feared, but not as much as Fidel. I believe what happens next is not up to Raul, but up to the "circle of friends" and cronies that Raul has around him. After that Castro dies, I expect a "purging" of the ranks around Raul.
8 posted on 01/21/2007 10:31:35 AM PST by FreeManWhoCan (**An American in Miami**)
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To: sgtbono2002
Don't think so, I would like to see Fidel & Raul both hung from a light pole, I think brother Ralphie will "retire" quickly after Fidel get to room temperature.

As for those other two clowns, I think they have been told to keep their hands to themselves.
9 posted on 01/21/2007 10:53:29 AM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Funny part of this article:

"And capitalism itself seems brutal and forbiddingly unequal, a system they can glimpse only when it rubs shoulders with shabby Castro-style Communism in hotels they cannot enter and restaurants that let them in only if they are on the arm of a foreigner."

Capitalism seems 'bad,' only because as this line implicitly admits, it's not capitalism at all. It's oligarchic kleptocracy with a Communist veneer. How many dollars have been stolen from Cuba and her citizens in the name of 'Communism?' The mind reels at the supposition.

10 posted on 01/21/2007 10:55:30 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (When personal character isn't relevant to voters or party leaders, Foley happens.)
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To: brushcop
I saw a book at B&N titled something like "Has Castro Been Good for Cuba?"

Well, the trains supposedly ran on time in Fascist Italy, so maybe Mussolini was good for that country.

11 posted on 01/21/2007 11:18:45 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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I dont know who would tell them. They dont pay any attention to the US and they seem to be pretty much be running the roost in South America.


12 posted on 01/21/2007 11:53:34 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Hopefully they vote for a Democracy and throw out the Commies. but I am not sure it can happen without a revolution .


13 posted on 01/21/2007 11:57:24 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Peace through strength.)
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To: FreeManWhoCan

Wasn't Raul the one who was in charge of the special police who murdered a lot of Cubans? My history is fuzzy about him, but I agree, he's not a nice guy.


14 posted on 01/21/2007 12:10:58 PM PST by Cate
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope the Cuban exiles aren't relying on the lefties who fetishize the Palestinians who want to get their land back.


15 posted on 01/21/2007 12:11:56 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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the Cuban Exiles will have to decide if they are now American or if they are Cuban.

The cannot be both nor can they participate in democratic processes of both states.


16 posted on 01/21/2007 12:16:52 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"...ration books and wartime restrictions — one tasteless roll a day, and every month eight eggs, a few pounds of chicken and a half-pound of something called “ground-up texturized soy” among other basics. But they also can’t imagine life without such subsidized guarantees... So engulfed have they been in the daily struggle to survive that many Cubans told me they wanted just to forget about the transition now taking place. THE REGIME SEEMED WILLING TO ASSIST THEM. Visiting relatives in La Lisa, a poverty-stricken area outside Havana with a forest of six-story Soviet-style housing blocks, I saw what looked like a water tanker in a public square one Saturday night. Crowds thronged, and I could tell that it wasn’t water that flowed from the tap. It was cheap beer. A bucket and a few centavos could make the weekend pass more quickly."

Sounds like what CALIFORNIA is hurdling towards...


18 posted on 01/21/2007 4:58:26 PM PST by 4Liberty ( forced charity = theft)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This promises to be a bonanza for lawyers as the Old Guard returns to La Isla Verde to reclaim their land expropriated by El Commandante.


19 posted on 01/22/2007 10:26:42 AM PST by sono (There are only two exit strategies - One is victory, the other defeat - Joe Lieberman)
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